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How do the Patriots Matchup with the Rams?

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Here are my thoughts as of now without looking too deeply into it.

The Rams rush D vs Pats rushing O - The Rams had one of the worst rush Ds in the regular season but have really tightened up in the playoffs. They stone walled the Cowboys and Saints which are two good running teams. I wrote it off when they did it to the Cowboys, but now that they did it to the Saints (While also having to worry about Drew Brees) it seems we can't count on running them over. This will clearly be the toughest rush D we have faced in the playoffs by far.

Rams pass D vs Pats pass O - Since getting Talib back their pass D has taken a step up. He isn't as good as he use to be but a solid CB none the less. He is their best CB. Peters is their #2 who has regressed badly and is a talented gambler who gets burned too often. Their #3 is debatable. I think they have an okay to good Pass D but match up badly against us. They have no one who can hope to keep with Edeman as Talib/Peters are clearly outside guys who like to play physically against bigger/slower WRs/TEs. Their best LB is Littleton who made the probowl but I think he is overrated and can't cover RBs. So the question is can their pass rush get to Brady? The way our line is playing I doubt it. Even with Donald and his supporting cast of Fowler Jr. and Suh I don't see it happening often as long as Brady continues to get the ball out in an average of 2.2 seconds.

Rams rush O vs Pats Rush D - The Pats have done well stopping the run and will probably continue to do so. After an incredible showing vs the Cowboys the Rams run O came back down to earth. They were mostly stopped by the Saints. The question is how healthy will Gurley be in 2 weeks? The Rams have a very good OL (according to PFF their center has sucked though). This will be an interesting match cause you need to wonder how much the Patriots plan to commit to stopping the run. They can if they really want to, but is that what they want to focus on? I think they keep to the 4-2-5 mostly and give up a little here.

Rams pass O vs Pats Pass D - The Rams passing offense is built around the WRs which bodes well for us. They have a great pair in Cooks/Woods but don't sleep on Reynolds. As many have said, they haven't been the same since loosing Kupp. Gurley has been a threat too but has looked worn down. Besides him they have no other TEs or RBs who are much of a threat to catch the ball. Goff has looked out of sorts without Kupp and that should continue. I really like this match up for our defense as we've done well vs WRs and there is no other way the Rams can consistently pass down the field. It will be interesting to see if the Pats can get pressure on Goff. They have done well recently getting in the QB's face but this will be a pretty tough OL to do it against.

Overall my thought is this. If Gurley looks like he did vs the Saints then we will almost definitely win. Without him their offense becomes predictable and plays to our strength (Asking our CBs to limit WRs).

Our OL will probably do what it has all year and protect Brady well enough so he can do his magic. Edelman is playing like a complete beast and they have no answer that I know of. They don't have a guy who can cover White and putting Talib on Gronk would work well in their favor but it would be putting their best pass defender on arguably our 3rd most dangerous weapon. I don't see how that will solve anything for them. As far as our run game I could see the Rams finally causing it to stall, but the instant they try to play the pass it will come alive again. The Patriots now demand a 7 man box most of the time or you will get gashed no matter how good your front 6 is. It's true their defense slowed down the Saints but part of that was bad play calls and the Saints not going back to what was working for them (which is odd for a well coached team.) The Pats won't make the same mistake. It has been hard to hold the Pats to under 30 in the playoffs during this run. The Rams IMO don't have the D to do it.

If Gurley is healthy in 2 weeks then its game on and suddenly our D will need to make some tough choices. Maybe now they can throw us enough off balance to drop 30 plus on us. We've had issues with good pass catching RBs for a while now and that won't change in two weeks. If he is good to go this becomes a much closer and more unpredictable contest.
 
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Aaron Donald ate the Saints o-line alive. He was beating his blockers in less than a second. Literally. And the Saints o-line>>>Patriots o-line

A defense doesn't have to be #1 across the board to be a nightmare and create turnovers.

As everyone knows and remembers, the Eagles pass rush was booty cheeks compared to the Giants and Falcons and THEY STILL made ONE play that ended the game and sealed the W for them.

We could dominate Suh and Donald all day long, but if it's a one TD game and Brady has the ball, those o-line will need to pray to whoever it is they pray to that Brady stays in that pocket, hangs onto the ball and releases that ball effectively.
 
Key is the interior o-line holding up against Donald-Suh. If they hold up I think we win.

I like our match up for the secondary. Gilmore on Woods. Double Cooks. We need to blitz Goff and get pressure on him. He’s 23rd ranked against the blitz. I also think if we can rattle Goff he may not recover. He missed some very big throws late against the Saints. He had Woods 2x that could have went for TDs. 1 he missed and the other was high and Woods couldn’t do anything with it after the catch. If Gurley is still not Gurley this Rams O is ordinary.

To attack the Rams I hope to see us attack their LBs with White in space. Every time the Saints targeted Kamara he was wide open against the Rams LB coverage. It was man to man and he abused them. I was surprised the Saints didn’t go to it more. We also need to keep running. It keeps the D unbalanced and let’s us control the clock. I think they will put Talib on Gronk so we will need production from Hogan and Dorsett.

Patriots 31
Rams 23
 
Talib on Gronk and bracketing Jules seems like their best bet. Take those two away using 3 guys and I think we really struggle if we can’t get the running game going.
 
Rams DL reminds me of the 07 Giants DL. Ugh. Pats need to use White in the screen game like the 1st half. Win the time of possession too. If there are any trick plays up McD's sleeve, now is the time.
All the Rams have is Donald (who is not of this earth).

Giants had Strahan, Osi, Tuck and Robbins.

Not even close to being comparable.
 
Talib on Gronk and bracketing Jules seems like their best bet. Take those two away using 3 guys and I think we really struggle if we can’t get the running game going.

Disagree.

If they do that then they force a LB to single White. Bad idea for them. They really can't afford to use 2 CBs on JE11.
 
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Disagree.

If they do that then they force an LB to single White. Bad idea for them. They really can't afford to use 2 CBs on JE11.

Plus we can pretty much utilize Dorsett as needed to combat that. Kid is open all the time.

Patterson will also be used more effectively I imagine with 2 weeks of prep. If their DEs and LBs aren’t as strong, we can get them thinking jet sweep and open up the off tackle runs with Sony and Burk

I tend to think this game could come down to TB12 avoiding a critical mistake when Suh or Donald get there. I.e. Do we go up 14-0 or give them the ball and the momentum.

I imagine Gronk, Develin and White and maybe even Sony will chip less and give Tom a quick RB route or throw away opportunity. If the pressure from Donald is right up the middle and quick, pass pro by RBs isn’t as effective.

I would get them running sideways and throw the ball a bit more to open up the run since they’ve been very effective in the playoffs vs the run. Let’s see what happens after that adrenaline wears off and fatigue sets in and then pound the rock.
 
Mahomes was by far the most talented qb that we faced this year. Goff isn’t as physically talented but he could pull a foles. I noticed he kind of panicked against the saints but maybe that’s because of the crowd noise. The formula remains the same. Double cooks and beat up their WRs at the line. It’s not as important to keep goff in the pocket as it was with mahomes. Also it really depends on Gurley’s health for the super bowl.
 
The giants had the ultimate game plan to stop brady in 07 and it worked and teams have been trying to emulate it ever since. It may be a good idea to double Aaron Donald. Running the ball straight at them and forcing them to stop it would also help. Btw I can’t stand talib or Marcus Peters.
 
Mahomes was by far the most talented qb that we faced this year. Goff isn’t as physically talented but he could pull a foles. I noticed he kind of panicked against the saints but maybe that’s because of the crowd noise. The formula remains the same. Double cooks and beat up their WRs at the line. It’s not as important to keep goff in the pocket as it was with mahomes. Also it really depends on Gurley’s health for the super bowl.

Goff is the anti-Mahomes. If he's pressured, he won't take a 20 yard sack, trying to hit a long TD, he'll check down every time. Need to tackle well, especially if Gurley's healthy. He's really the only guy on that offense that can be 'uncoverable'.
 
Aaron Donald ate the Saints o-line alive. He was beating his blockers in less than a second. Literally. And the Saints o-line>>>Patriots o-line

A defense doesn't have to be #1 across the board to be a nightmare and create turnovers.

As everyone knows and remembers, the Eagles pass rush was booty cheeks compared to the Giants and Falcons and THEY STILL made ONE play that ended the game and sealed the W for them.

We could dominate Suh and Donald all day long, but if it's a one TD game and Brady has the ball, those o-line will need to pray to whoever it is they pray to that Brady stays in that pocket, hangs onto the ball and releases that ball effectively.
It's almost as if the Patriots don't have recent history placating All World Defensive Lineman like J.J. Watt.

Offensively, I get the feeling James Develin is going to be oh so important in this game.
 
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It's almost as if the Patriots don't have recent history placating All World Defensivelineman like J.J. Watt.

Offensively, I get the feeling James Develin is going to be oh so important in this game.
To be fair, Aaron Donald is the best defensive tackle Belichick will ever have game-planned for.

Suh's a bum though. We'll hear how good he is these next couple of weeks, but you heard in that unfiltered locker room video what the players actually think about him.

Donald's totally legit though. It will be interesting to see what kind of plan McDaniels and Scarneccia come up with.
 
To be fair, Aaron Donald is the best defensive tackle Belichick will ever have game-planned for.

Suh's a bum though. We'll hear how good he is these next couple of weeks, but you heard in that unfiltered locker room video what the players actually think about him.

Donald's totally legit though. It will be interesting to see what kind of plan McDaniels and Scarneccia come up with.
I would double Donald not suh.
 
Goff is the anti-Mahomes. If he's pressured, he won't take a 20 yard sack, trying to hit a long TD, he'll check down every time. Need to tackle well, especially if Gurley's healthy. He's really the only guy on that offense that can be 'uncoverable'.
I know every game is different but damn, if we can beat that Kansas City offense in their house. We are perfectly capable of beating the rams. Rams gave up 51 to the chiefs
 
I know every game is different but damn, if we can beat that Kansas City offense in their house. We are perfectly capable of beating the rams. Rams gave up 51 to the chiefs
Oh I totally agree, and I expect the Patriots will have a handle on it. The Rams are more predictable (even with all their motion and fakes), but they're also more disciplined. They're not going to throw panic balls, take 20 yard sacks, or abandon the run in the first quarter.
 
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