JC Jackson has the best passer rating allowed in the NFL

[Uptown]

Not sure if it's been addressed in this thread yet, but what's with the huge disparity in reported height for Jackson? He seems to be anywhere from 5'10" to 6'1" (his "official" height). My eyes tell me he's on the taller end.

He certainly seems tall & lanky on the field. Long arms (or so it seems). You’re right; there are various disparities with his reported height. From what I’ve seen, he’s anywhere between 5’10”-6’1”. Doubt he’s 5’10”. On the field, he looks to be somewhere between 5’11”-6’1”but who knows..I’d certainly like to think he’s 6’1” though

 

[RobertWeathers]

Both McCourtys were publicly measured at 5100 before their respective drafts.

There ya go. 5-10 sounds about right for JC.

35.5in vertical makes him seem taller

 

[ivanvamp]

Relared, I posted his rating in relation past league leaders in another thread.

NFL Leader in Opponent Passer Rating (qualified):

2018: JC Jackson (33.7)
2017: AJ Bouye (31.6)
2016: Xavier Rhodes (47.0)
2015: Josh Norman (54.0)
2014: Vontae Davis (38.8)
2013: Richard Sherman (36.2)

Jackson’s played over 300 snaps so it really isn’t a sample size anomaly anymore. He’s having a fantastic rookie season & is arguably one of the 10 best rookies in the entire league.

It’s early but his metrics suggest stardom. Having two CB1s would make any potential rebuild much easier.

I'm trying to find via google where these stats are and I can't find them. Share a link?

 

[ivanvamp]

We really have a terrific secondary. Jackson has been great. Gilmore is an all-pro caliber player. Jones and Jason McCourty have both been solid. And the safeties - DMac, Chung, and Harmon - have all been pretty good too.

Now, if they can only get more pressure on the opposing QB, we'd be in great shape defensively.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I'm trying to find via google where these stats are and I can't find them. Share a link?

Its PFF. Kyed includes them in his articles.

 

[patsinthesnow]

I'm trying to find via google where these stats are and I can't find them. Share a link?

PFF. My buddy works there so I can check out their data from past years. Jeff Howe on twitter also does charting;

 

[Uptown]

PFF. My buddy works there so I can check out their data from past years. Jeff Howe on twitter also does charting;

Wowwww Obi’s stats are horrendous. Terrible in coverage. Gotta get him up outta here.

 

[Username]

We really have a terrific secondary. Jackson has been great. Gilmore is an all-pro caliber player. Jones and Jason McCourty have both been solid. And the safeties - DMac, Chung, and Harmon - have all been pretty good too.

Now, if they can only get more pressure on the opposing QB, we'd be in great shape defensively.

DMac has been well off the pace in my opinion, slow to read and react, and as a result is always making the tackle a few yards later than he should've

 

[RobertWeathers]

Wowwww Obi’s stats are horrendous. Terrible in coverage. Gotta get him up outta here.

I'd really like to see more of him but I'm assuming hes so far behind in learning the D and his technique that they are content to let him learn and fight for a spot in 2019.

 

[JMC00]

DMac has been well off the pace in my opinion, slow to read and react, and as a result is always making the tackle a few yards later than he should've

Nah not since they started playing him properly as a FS and not that hybrid CB/FS they were earlier in the season.

 

[Kontradiction]

PFF. My buddy works there so I can check out their data from past years. Jeff Howe on twitter also does charting;

LOL @ Rivers.

 

[RobertWeathers]

LOL @ Rivers.

Seeing how we were just talking about the draft, the best way to extend Tom's career is to load up on blue-chip defensive talent.

 

[Kontradiction]

Seeing how we were just talking about the draft, the best way to extend Tom's career is to load up on blue-chip defensive talent.

Well, they have to actually hit on them. They've found guys later on but, for the most part, to get the true "blue chip" talent, they have to hit on their top picks.

 

[jah]

Again, I'm going with 5096 (5', 9.75") for Jackson because that was what he was measured at publicly. The 5'10" would be a reasonable round-off.

Patriots.com may seem "official" because it supposedly directly operated by the Patriots organization. However, the layout and graphics are identical to those for the Giants' website and those of other teams - which tells me that it's actually being outsourced.

Much of the data on it is most likely input by interns employed by the contracted company, and doesn't necessarily come directly from BB, the training staff, etc.). There's inaccurate stuff on there all the time. In any case, it's just a marketing tool, not any kind of "official record".

I go on the same rant here all the time. There's a reason I used quotes around "official".

 

[RobertWeathers]

Well, they have to actually hit on them. They've found guys later on but, for the most part, to get the true "blue chip" talent, they have to hit on their top picks.

Hopefully Lawrence drops far enough for Bill to make a move to grab.

 

[Kontradiction]

Hopefully Lawrence drops far enough for Bill to make a move to grab.

Lawrence is a brick wall. I wouldn't mind his running mate, Wilkins, either.

 

[Danger Zone]

Well it's got to be something in the water. The Steelers seem to have magic in getting recievers, the Pats seem to have the same magic when it comes to CB's. No way to understand the why of it.

It's my theory that the Draft is a LOT more random than most people give it credit for and market efficiency only emphasizes this effect though UDFA are obviously going to be less known than the obvious stars.

No Team Can Beat the Draft

As an obligatory "in case you're interested":

From 2011 to 2018 the Patriots drafted at the 30th spot in each round on average (due to strength of record).

Same period the Steelers drafted at spot #23.

I have no doubt that drafting 7 spots ahead in each round for 7 years in a row ends up being a huge drafting advantage.

 

[SammyBlueCat]

Hippo-like quickness then?

<cough cough cough> Slug like slowness.

 

[RobertWeathers]

It's my theory that the Draft is a LOT more random than most people give it credit for and market efficiency only emphasizes this effect though UDFA are obviously going to be less known than the obvious stars.

No Team Can Beat the Draft

As an obligatory "in case you're interested":

From 2011 to 2018 the Patriots drafted at the 30th spot in each round on average (due to strength of record).

Same period the Steelers drafted at spot #23.

I have no doubt that drafting 7 spots ahead in each round for 7 years in a row ends up being a huge drafting advantage.

No question. The entire history of the draft tells is players who are drafted in the first round are more likely to become All Pros and have longer careers than players drafted in subsequent rounds.

 

[patfanken]

Nah not since they started playing him properly as a FS and not that hybrid CB/FS they were earlier in the season.

Actually at 6'4 and 225 I was wondering if Obi might fit the mold of that hybrid SS/LB who can develop into a Telvin Smith kind of player.

I believe that this kind of hybrid is an essential position in today's NFL. No less of a need than a DT or CB. Obi has a unique set of skills and those skills SHOULD have translated into success with the Raiders. For some reason they decided he was expendable and it couldn't have been just about his injuries. So we can assume that at THIS point of his career, Obi has a few holes in his game.

I'm guessing its more about his mental ability to translate his skills into success. Having 4.4 speed isn't going to help if it takes you an extra half second to diagnose the play. Of course THAT side of the game can often be improved on.

So while we surely need some talented youth at the safety position, I'm thinking that Obi's best potential use might just be at that hybrid LB postion. He has all the size speed and quickness to cover RB's and TE's. Right now those are the 2 positions that the current defenses are having a problem covering in the wide open era of college offenses.

just sayin'