Brady this year

[SVN]

Brady has 3,342 pass yards after yesterday. If he averages 308 yards per game over his last 4 games (Mia, Pit, Buf, NYJ) he will have 4,574 yards for the season. Which is 2 yards ahead of last season when he won MVP. Unless the Pats clinch early and he rests...that sounds doable. 8 INTs right now which matches last year. 0 ints the rest of the way also sounds doable if the running game is rolling.

Cliff?

"Can he throw beyond 5 yards"
"Can he throw a pass past 10 yards"
"Do we have a pass play beyond 20 yards"
"Its clear we can no longer rely on brady"
- Paraphrasing yesterday's Game day thread.

 

[Kontradiction]

Yea as depressing as it is to say I think this may be it. He’s not getting the separation and the explosision seems to be all but gone. For the most part we have gone away from the seam routes and his target to catch ratio is pretty bad as well. I knew at some point all the abuse would catch up to him but I was hoping he would decline gradually instead of a cliff which is how it’s looking now. With that said I would love to be wrong but it’s hard to see him lumbering and getting taken down by one no name inches short of the sticks.

I'd think it would be ideal to have the bye and HFA wrapped up in the final couple of weeks/week of the season to shut Gronk down again and give him a few/couple of weeks off to rest.

 

[patchick]

I think if you really analyze his play it’s not accuracy that has changed it’s that at 41 he has become more willing to give up on a single play rather than take a beating.
Most of the inaccurate throws were quasi-throwaways imo.

Maybe, but for me what stood out in the not-quite-Brady games was a decline in accuracy on completed passes. He didn't seem to be leading the receivers and positioning them for YAC.

 

[Batman]

He definitely still has it however he isn’t as good as he was.

From my view some positives were him stepping up into the pocket, spreading the ball around, the pass to Paterson downfield was a beaut and the pass to brink that got tipped up had some serious velocity.

The bad he seems to be missing some touch even Gordon’s TD could have been made way easier for Gordon, the read on the INT was bad and he didn’t seem as willing to just throw a deep bomb over aggressive safety’s.

I feel this was one of his best games this year though.

 

[Deus Irae]

Agreed...300 games into the Brady era, it's fair to say that fans have a good sense of this player.

I wish I could agree with that. Unfortunately, given the amount of crazy overreaction to the early part of this season, I'm more inclined to say that, even 300 games in, far too many fans have no freakin' clue about Brady. "OMG, QB rating!" and the like did little more than serve as evidence that people didn't learn a thing from 2006 and 2013.

 

[JarOfMayo51]

He won't average 308 passing yards the rest of the way but stats and awards don't matter, only wins.

Yea yards truly don’t matter to Brady

Look at the replay on one of James Develins touchdowns last week, when Brady sees him break the plane and score he does the physco Tom clenched fist celebration and is pumped out of his goard happy

The only thing that drives him is winning

 

[JarOfMayo51]

The whole "system QB" game manager horse bleep is so absurd. Look at how well the other "GOAT" in GB is doing and frankly has always done... Brady Manages WINS!

Rodgers has been terrible this year and he media won’t call him on it. They are making every excuse for him, that he doesn’t have enough talent, his coach wasn’t putting him in a position to succeed, etc

They make it sound like it’s a crime or some Greek tragedy what the world has done to the GOAT Aaron Rodgers

don’t understand why the media chooses to ball wash some players and defame others. Rodgers isn’t he future of the league either, he’s 35 so he’ll be done in another 5 years or so and it will only be the young bucks left like Mahomes, Goff, Watson, Luck, Wilson, mayfield etc

Brady, Brees, Roethlisberger, Elisha Manning and Rodgers are all coming to the end of their careers and an end of an era in the NFL

What we’ll be left with is arena style football quarterbacking with lots of scrambling out of the pocket. It’s rare to face pure pocket passers anymore

 

[mosi]

Yea as depressing as it is to say I think this may be it. He’s not getting the separation and the explosision seems to be all but gone. For the most part we have gone away from the seam routes and his target to catch ratio is pretty bad as well. I knew at some point all the abuse would catch up to him but I was hoping he would decline gradually instead of a cliff which is how it’s looking now. With that said I would love to be wrong but it’s hard to see him lumbering and getting taken down by one no name inches short of the sticks.

He is done. No amount of rest will bring him back. He knows it and you can see it in everything he does. People don't want to admit it but Manish was right.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

Christian Fauria blames Rob's decline on the TB12 method

Ex-Patriot Believes Rob Gronkowski Is ‘Weaker’ Because Of TB12 Method

“You go into TB12, and you’re a tight end. You’re not a quarterback. That works for Brady — (Julian) Edelman does the TB12 Method also. But, (Edelman) is still in the weight room getting stronger,” Fauria, co-host of WEEI’s “Ordway, Merloni & Fauria,” said on the air this week, per WEEI.com. “He’s still got a lot of power in his legs. When guys hurt their backs, they don’t have the necessary strength around their hip joints and flexors.

“That’s why I’m not surprised his back went out. That’s why he gets called for holding. He can’t hold the point of attack as well as he used to. He doesn’t have the explosion. That’s why he catches the ball one yard behind the first-down marker, and can’t find his way out. I think he’s weaker. I think he’s less flexible.”

 

[RobertWeathers]

He is done. No amount of rest will bring him back. He knows it and you can see it in everything he does. People don't want to admit it but Manish was right.

So if Gronk blocks well and goes off on Sunday for 5/101/2TDs you'll stick to your position?

 

[Deus Irae]

Christian Fauria blames Rob's decline on the TB12 method

Ex-Patriot Believes Rob Gronkowski Is ‘Weaker’ Because Of TB12 Method

“You go into TB12, and you’re a tight end. You’re not a quarterback. That works for Brady — (Julian) Edelman does the TB12 Method also. But, (Edelman) is still in the weight room getting stronger,” Fauria, co-host of WEEI’s “Ordway, Merloni & Fauria,” said on the air this week, per WEEI.com. “He’s still got a lot of power in his legs. When guys hurt their backs, they don’t have the necessary strength around their hip joints and flexors.

“That’s why I’m not surprised his back went out. That’s why he gets called for holding. He can’t hold the point of attack as well as he used to. He doesn’t have the explosion. That’s why he catches the ball one yard behind the first-down marker, and can’t find his way out. I think he’s weaker. I think he’s less flexible.”

Yeah, his argument has found a way to be a sub-zero I.Q. argument.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

People don't want to admit it but Manish was right.

When you consider all of the crappy predictions that Manish Mehta has made over the past few years about the ever-impending Patriots demise, it seems unwise to ever assume that he is right about anything.

He's a wild-eyed crazy Jets tabloid embarrassment. His writing makes Shank look like Chaucer.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

The only stats that matter is 1000 rushing yards

 

[1960Pats]

"Can he throw beyond 5 yards"
"Can he throw a pass past 10 yards"
"Do we have a pass play beyond 20 yards"
"Its clear we can no longer rely on brady"
- Paraphrasing yesterday's Game day thread.

Thanks for confirming why I haven't read a GDT in six years.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

Thanks for confirming why I haven't read a GDT in six years.

It's the Mos Eisley Spaceport of Patsfans!

 

[RayClay]

I'd much rather see a great running game to complement him which gives us a much better chance when the games count the most.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

They have a very legitimate ground game now with 3 healthy bodies so I doubt he gets there but reports of his demise have been greatly exaggerated.

Gotta hate that ground game because it gives Brady less wear & tear and hits. I mean, it's like keeping Brady off the field when he's actually...ON THE FIELD!!!! Isn't that what opposing teams want?

OK, the advance of the ground game, especially this time of year is absolutely marvelous and can only make the team that much dangerous as they can game plan (including in game adjustments) by exploiting weaknesses on a team and go full ground and pound to full air or somewhere in between. Brady with solid play action and Edleman/Gronk with a getting better ever week Josh Gordon is fun.

 

[mosi]

So if Gronk blocks well and goes off on Sunday for 5/101/2TDs you'll stick to your position?

Yeah, because greatness does not come from a single game. If he does it for the remaining 4 games and 3 others, I might.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Yeah, because greatness does not come from a single game. If he does it for the remaining 4 games and 3 others, I might.

I admit that I have Gronk on a watch list but I'm not ready to say he is no longer great. I think hes hurt and if healthy would be great.

We'll find out though.

 

[mosi]

I admit that I have Gronk on a watch list but I'm not ready to say he is no longer great. I think hes hurt and if healthy would be great.

We'll find out though.

If he is going to have a big game, this should be it. The Dolfools have not done a good job with TE all year.