2018 mocks

[Hammer of Thor]

This mock from draft wire would actually make me pretty happy. Fairly realistic choices, players with solid scheme fits and upside, etc. Not bad.

Plus Kyzir White is a binky, so this gets an A+ from me.

2018 Patriots mock draft: Bill Belichick drafts Malcolm Butler's replacement

Glad you like the picks. Personally, I have a hard time finding this website's rationale for the Patriots draft as credible when it can't get basic facts right (is he getting paid for this?).

The Patriots haven’t made the pass-rush a point of focus since they shelled out money for Andre Carter and Mark Anderson to terrorize quarterbacks in 2010. Perhaps the Patriots will finally begin investing draft assets on the edge by adding Hubbard, who is getting first round buzz.

1) Carter and Anderson were Patriots in 2011. On a Super Bowl roster, not just a throwaway Patriots team. And they weren't signed until the summer because of the lockout, so he can't make the argument that they were signed in 2010 for 2011.

2) Is Chandler Jones chopped liver now? They traded *up* in the 1st round to get him, once of only 4 times the Patriots have done that in the 1st round under Belichick. I can understand how he's blocked Jake Bequette from his memory. But the fact is, the Patriots double-dipped on edge players in the first 3 rounds in 2012 including trading up in the 1st round (and I'm not even including Dont'a Hightower's positional flexibility, who was also a 2012 first round trade-up).

 

[IllegalContact]

Trades: 1(31) to Atlanta for 2(26), 2(29), 3(26); 2(29) to NYG for 3(2), 4(2); 3(31) to DEN for 4(6), 5(5), 7(7)

Round 2 Pick 11: Mike Hughes, CB, Central Florida (B)
Round 2 Pick 26 (ATL): Hercules Mata'afa, OLB, Washington State (A)
Round 2 Pick 31: Marcus Allen, FS, Penn State (A)
Round 3 Pick 2 (NYG): Leighton Vander Esch, ILB, Boise State (B)
Round 3 Pick 26 (ATL): Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford (A+)
Round 4 Pick 2 (NYG): Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A)
Round 4 Pick 6 (DEN): Rashaad Penny, RB, San Diego State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 5 (DEN): Kyzir White, SS, West Virginia (A-)
Round 6 Pick 31: Kyle Lauletta, QB, Richmond (C+)
Round 7 Pick 7 (DEN): Tre'Quan Smith, WR, Central Florida (A+)

going to put some thought into the next one

 

[WaterfallJumper]

Glad you like the picks. Personally, I have a hard time finding this website's rationale for the Patriots draft as credible when it can't get basic facts right (is he getting paid for this?).



1) Carter and Anderson were Patriots in 2011. On a Super Bowl roster, not just a throwaway Patriots team. And they weren't signed until the summer because of the lockout, so he can't make the argument that they were signed in 2010 for 2011.

2) Is Chandler Jones chopped liver now? They traded *up* in the 1st round to get him, once of only 4 times the Patriots have done that in the 1st round under Belichick. I can understand how he's blocked Jake Bequette from his memory. But the fact is, the Patriots double-dipped on edge players in the first 3 rounds in 2012 including trading up in the 1st round (and I'm not even including Dont'a Hightower's positional flexibility, who was also a 2012 first round trade-up).

Yeah, I had a chuckle at that one, too, for the same reasons. I still liked the picks, given the way the draft fell. Solid contributors with potential to grow.

 

[scott99]

Trades: 1(31) to Atlanta for 2(26), 2(29), 3(26); 2(29) to NYG for 3(2), 4(2); 3(31) to DEN for 4(6), 5(5), 7(7)

Round 2 Pick 11: Mike Hughes, CB, Central Florida (B)
Round 2 Pick 26 (ATL): Hercules Mata'afa, OLB, Washington State (A)
Round 2 Pick 31: Marcus Allen, FS, Penn State (A)
Round 3 Pick 2 (NYG): Leighton Vander Esch, ILB, Boise State (B)
Round 3 Pick 26 (ATL): Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford (A+)
Round 4 Pick 2 (NYG): Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A)
Round 4 Pick 6 (DEN): Rashaad Penny, RB, San Diego State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 5 (DEN): Kyzir White, SS, West Virginia (A-)
Round 6 Pick 31: Kyle Lauletta, QB, Richmond (C+)
Round 7 Pick 7 (DEN): Tre'Quan Smith, WR, Central Florida (A+)

going to put some thought into the next one

Would take a miracle for it to fall this way. I’d be happy with 2-3 of those guys.

 

[captain stone]

Just finished this mock on Fanspeak, using Matt Miller's latest Bleacher Report rankings:

2018 NFL Mock Draft via Fanspeak's On the Clock Mock Draft Simulator

As you can see, I really wanted to concentrate on defense on days 1 & 2.

I also wanted to draft a Safety, but I didn't see any I liked on Day 3 as well as I liked OT Brandon Parker & TE Ryan Izzo.

 

[Username]

Just did the most ridiculous mock on Fanspeak. Now, I know this could never happen in real life, but just imagine...

R1P31: Malik Jefferson
R2P11: Vita Vea
R2P31: Tremaine Edmunds
R3P31: Bo Scarbrough
R4P36: Dallas Goedert
R6P31: Da'Shawn Hand

 

[WaterfallJumper]

Just did the most ridiculous mock on Fanspeak. Now, I know this could never happen in real life, but just imagine...

R1P31: Malik Jefferson
R2P11: Vita Vea
R2P31: Tremaine Edmunds
R3P31: Bo Scarbrough
R4P36: Dallas Goedert
R6P31: Da'Shawn Hand

Okay. You're hired. BB, it was nice knowing you. We have a new GM now.

 

[Snooky97]

Just did the most ridiculous mock on Fanspeak. Now, I know this could never happen in real life, but just imagine...

R1P31: Malik Jefferson
R2P11: Vita Vea
R2P31: Tremaine Edmunds
R3P31: Bo Scarbrough
R4P36: Dallas Goedert
R6P31: Da'Shawn Hand

Hello multiple superbowls and more hate hahha

 

[Username]

Okay. You're hired. BB, it was nice knowing you. We have a new GM now.

What are the hours like?

 

[WaterfallJumper]

What are the hours like?

The rest of your life.

 

[captain stone]

Okay. You're hired. BB, it was nice knowing you. We have a new GM now.

About damn time.

 

[captain stone]

What are the hours like?

Longer than a haberdasher's.

 

[manxman2601]

What are the hours like?

Long enough that you don’t need to know how the clock in your car works.

 

[manxman2601]

I decided to have a go at my first mock of the year.

FA

• I have my doubts that we’ll re-sign Solder - I hope so but with such a bad OT class in the draft, I wonder whether we might get outbid for him in FA. Hopefully one of Cam Fleming or Waddle are brought back as short term cover. I think they both showed that, whilst they might not be long term options at OT, they can hold the fort at the position for a short time.
• I think we’ll acquire a CB during the FA process whether it be Breeland, Talib or maybe Sherman.
• I doubt Dion Lewis comes back but they should try to bring back Burkhead. I think B.B. will sign Gore who’ll compete with Gillislee and maybe a UDFA RB. Maybe not ideal but it’s a workable committee.
• Amendola is re-signed.

Draft (no trades)

31. Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio State

Just seems very Patriot-y to me. Will be a popular choice in mocks for the Pats

43. Justin Reid, S, Stanford

By now we all know why this guy should be in everyone’s mocks for the Pats. That doesn’t mean we’ll draft him of course but he’s one of the most obvious potential Patriots prospects I’ve seen. Just ticks every box.

63. Brian O’Neill, OT, Pittsburgh

I realise he might not be an ideal day one starter (hence re-signing Waddle/Fleming) but the similarities between him and Solder (aside from about 20 pounds) are startling. Who fancies a LT reverse? Josh McDaniels perhaps? And a blocking TE in year one.

95. Kyle Lauletta, QB, Richmond

I have concerns about his deep ball but aside from that, there’s a hell of a lot to like.

136. Ian Thomas, TE, Indiana

A developmental prospect at TE for sure, but with likely uncertainty over Gronk every year now until he finally quits, we need one of them. He’s an in-line blocker with good hands which is a positive.

205. Genard Avery, LB, Memphis

A recently discovered binky. A 248lb linebacker with top notch athleticism with some DE like ability to bend the edge in pass rush and with great effort and and excellent COD ability. I can see him playing both as a middle linebacker or in the recent Nink role. Should be a quality special teamer too with his athleticism and effort.

I think the first four picks seem like very BB picks to me and whilst it’s not a very flashy mock necessarily, I think it’s typically Patriot solid. And whilst I’m pessimistic about re-signing Solder and Lewis, I sure as hell hope we do.

 

[luuked]

I decided to have a go at my first mock of the year.

FA

• I have my doubts that we’ll re-sign Solder - I hope so but with such a bad OT class in the draft, I wonder whether we might get outbid for him in FA. Hopefully one of Cam Fleming or Waddle are brought back as short term cover. I think they both showed that, whilst they might not be long term options at OT, they can hold the fort at the position for a short time.
• I think we’ll acquire a CB during the FA process whether it be Breeland, Talib or maybe Sherman.
• I doubt Dion Lewis comes back but they should try to bring back Burkhead. I think B.B. will sign Gore who’ll compete with Gillislee and maybe a UDFA RB. Maybe not ideal but it’s a workable committee.
• Amendola is re-signed.

Draft (no trades)

31. Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio State

Just seems very Patriot-y to me. Will be a popular choice in mocks for the Pats

43. Justin Reid, S, Stanford

By now we all know why this guy should be in everyone’s mocks for the Pats. That doesn’t mean we’ll draft him of course but he’s one of the most obvious potential Patriots prospects I’ve seen. Just ticks every box.

63. Brian O’Neill, OT, Pittsburgh

I realise he might not be an ideal day one starter (hence re-signing Waddle/Fleming) but the similarities between him and Solder (aside from about 20 pounds) are startling. Who fancies a LT reverse? Josh McDaniels perhaps? And a blocking TE in year one.

95. Kyle Lauletta, QB, Richmond

I have concerns about his deep ball but aside from that, there’s a hell of a lot to like.

136. Ian Thomas, TE, Indiana

A developmental prospect at TE for sure, but with likely uncertainty over Gronk every year now until he finally quits, we need one of them. He’s an in-line blocker with good hands which is a positive.

205. Genard Avery, LB, Memphis

A recently discovered binky. A 248lb linebacker with top notch athleticism with some DE like ability to bend the edge in pass rush and with great effort and and excellent COD ability. I can see him playing both as a middle linebacker or in the recent Nink role. Should be a quality special teamer too with his athleticism and effort.

I think the first four picks seem like very BB picks to me and whilst it’s not a very flashy mock necessarily, I think it’s typically Patriot solid. And whilst I’m pessimistic about re-signing Solder and Lewis, I sure as hell hope we do.

Love the mock, not a fan of letting Solder go and getting a "pricey" veteran CB at the same time. Rather roll with Gilmore/Rowe/JJones/CJones/Bademosi but keep Solder. I know that those things are not directly connected to each other but if you have a 41 year old QB you might consider overpaying his LT even if it means sacrificing a bit in the secondary.

 

[Username]

205. Genard Avery, LB, Memphis

A recently discovered binky. A 248lb linebacker with top notch athleticism with some DE like ability to bend the edge in pass rush and with great effort and and excellent COD ability. I can see him playing both as a middle linebacker or in the recent Nink role. Should be a quality special teamer too with his athleticism and effort.

I don't know anything about him, just read his profile on nfl.com and he sounds promising. They compare him to Elandon Roberts though...

 

[manxman2601]

I don't know anything about him, just read his profile on nfl.com and he sounds promising. They compare him to Elandon Roberts though...

Visit the Gif thread, there’s a post about him there. He has a lot more potential than Roberts. He actually has some Haason Reddick to his game.

 

[manxman2601]

Love the mock, not a fan of letting Solder go and getting a "pricey" veteran CB at the same time. Rather roll with Gilmore/Rowe/JJones/CJones/Bademosi but keep Solder. I know that those things are not directly connected to each other but if you have a 41 year old QB you might consider overpaying his LT even if it means sacrificing a bit in the secondary.

I’m not suggesting we should let Solder go but in an environment where the draft class is poor at LT, Solder has the potential to make a lot of money. And B.B. has shown a willingness in the past to downgrade at a key position if the alternative is overpaying.

 

[luuked]

I’m not suggesting we should let Solder go but in an environment where the draft class is poor at LT, Solder has the potential to make a lot of money. And B.B. has shown a willingness in the past to downgrade at a key position if the alternative is overpaying.

I understand. My point is that we were never in a situation where we had a 41y old QB. Safety and continuity of that aspect has to be part of your value calculation. Of course if someone offers crazy money it is a different story but same as with DMac and the Eagles I expect the Pats to step up and pay a premium for Solder once the cards are on the table.

If anything BB & co are amazing at correctly assigning value to talent in terms of FA and the open market. Apart from Hicks and Chicago I can't remember the last time they screwed up the evaluation part.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Trades: 1(31) to Atlanta for 2(26), 2(29), 3(26); 2(29) to NYG for 3(2), 4(2); 3(31) to DEN for 4(6), 5(5), 7(7)

Round 2 Pick 11: Mike Hughes, CB, Central Florida (B)
Round 2 Pick 26 (ATL): Hercules Mata'afa, OLB, Washington State (A)
Round 2 Pick 31: Marcus Allen, FS, Penn State (A)
Round 3 Pick 2 (NYG): Leighton Vander Esch, ILB, Boise State (B)
Round 3 Pick 26 (ATL): Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford (A+)
Round 4 Pick 2 (NYG): Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A)
Round 4 Pick 6 (DEN): Rashaad Penny, RB, San Diego State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 5 (DEN): Kyzir White, SS, West Virginia (A-)
Round 6 Pick 31: Kyle Lauletta, QB, Richmond (C+)
Round 7 Pick 7 (DEN): Tre'Quan Smith, WR, Central Florida (A+)

going to put some thought into the next one

Love the picks, but after his workout I’m having trouble seeing Hughes fall that far. In fact it will prob take a trade up to get him. My guess is that Harrison and gesicki go higher than the mock as well. Lauletta in the late 6th would be a steal