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Discussion in 'Patriots Draft Talk' started by long distance, Nov 7, 2017.

  1. captain stone

    captain stone Pro Bowl Player

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    Bill trades UP from 64...er...63 to select The Slow Dwarf Duke Feckin Dawson. Book it!
     

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    reamer Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    Hang on, Captain. He's 5'10 5/8ths, which means he's only 3/8ths of an inch under the NFL average of 5'11. He also ran a 4.4 at 200 pounds. What's wrong with that?
     
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  3. long distance

    long distance Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    For us this is just some fun . but some are taking/making it as serious business. To wrap up this thread I saved Mel Kiper's 1st mock. Its true it was made before BUF, NYJ, NE 1st round trades and before Free Agency but still . its just uncanny how wrong it was. And even though its just futile business in futile times Id be a bit embarrassed if this was my business. He won't be . he'll be preaching again next year.

    But it really is uncanny:
    1. He did not get a single pick right.
    2. He got just two positions right (CLE QB, ATL WR). Any person who never saw a football game would have more by just filling the list as lottery ticket..
    3. Most of the time he has even the side of the ball wrong!
    4. 11 players didn't make it in 1st round..

    It turned out more like the ultimate mock of the mock..

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  4. maineman209

    maineman209 Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    The common wisdom is that the team needs to have tall DBs (+/- 6'1") to defend against tall WRs.

    Here's the thing.

    1) For me, a DB's #1 job is to cover well enough prevent a pass from being thrown his way (or, at least, make the QB hesitant to do so). A DB's ability to do that is independent of his height. IOW, height alone doesn't guarantee that a DB can cover a tall WR effectively or even guarantee that he can win the battle at the catch point against taller WRs.

    2) While there are "a lot" of taller WRs in the league, few of them are consistently "uncoverable" by a shorter DB - they're not all "Gronk". And not all of those taller WRs (perhaps even very few of them) can consistently win the battle at the catch point against even "shorter" DBs.

    3) The Pats defend against just under 600 pass attempts each season. What percentage of those are actually thrown to tall WRs (who are actually good)?

    4) Although it appears that there are more tall DBs who can actually cover available nowadays than there were 10 years ago (or even 5 years ago), they're still relatively rare and still difficult for the Pats to get to in the draft. IOW, there's still quite a bit of luck (and expense) involved in acquiring one (and it's not as if BB hasn't tried).

    And yet some are still critical of BB for acquiring the best coverage DB's available to him, regardless of height, because these "short guys" may not be able to win what likely amounts to a very small percentage of plays, even though their coverage skills may actually be preventing a lot of those plays from happening in the first place.
     
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  5. captain stone

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    I'd rather have Rasheem Green than Sony the Shiny Toy.
     

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