NFL considering changing DPI to 15 yard penalty

[Kontradiction]

That is nothing more than anecdotal evidence and does nothing to provide support for your statement.

Even Forrest Gump is smart enough to know that.

You’re having a lot of trouble keeping up here and, coupled with the fact that you’ve been unable to produce data to back your earlier claim, it might be best for you to back on out. You’ve gotten hammered. Let’s take a stroll down memory lane to my OP, shall we?

Pretty much. Any corners that are beat clean off the line will do what they do in college, which is just commit DPI and surrender the 15 yards instead of where the ball would have been caught had DPI not occurred.

You asked me to provide evidence backing this assertion and I did. The Bama player mauled the receiver prior to getting to the goal line knowing full well that the penalty would still put them far outside of scoring distance. There was nothing to lose.

Meanwhile, we’re still waiting on that data comparing NFL DPI on a per-team basis to that of the NCAA. Only I’m not waiting with bated breath anymore. I didn’t want to suffocate in the same manner that your wife suffocates on a Baconator.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

are you new to this? anything that is perceived as an advantage for ne, like filming/scouting, ineligible and eligible receivers, junping over the line to block fgs, etc, or now the carch rule, it is always targete very clearly at the pats.

bill polian led this agenda-driven charge in 2003 and it hasn’t let up since.

it has gotten so bad, casual nfl fans who don’t know the rules of the nfl anymore due to the feverish pace of rule changes in this league. it is so bizarre, all you have to do is follow the other leagues. mlb, nba, nhl, etc, don’t have such severe rule adjustments all the time because those leagues don’t have abusive and moron/corrupt commissioners.

and yes, i am stunned they are looking to change the pi penalty, because it needed to be changed a long time ago. so, the one season
bb acquires a really fast wr like cooks where brady did use the desperation chuck 40 yards downfield to get something cooking with sputtering offense, it worked.

throw in the perception (key word here for goodell), with ne “getting all the calls”, even though they are 100% the right calls (save for the clement td in the super bowl), and you better believe this is organized cheating by goodell, mike tomlin and john harbaugh at the top of the competition committee.

This would be a terrible rule change for John harbaugh. Not sure why you brought him into your argument seeing that DPI on deep passes are a huge part of the Ravens pass offense.

 

[jah]

I just don't believe for a second that the league is considering this rule change because of Brandin Cooks.

You sound like the people who thought centralizing replay in the NFL's offices was some sort of anti-Patriot agenda as well. And then we benefitted from 3 huge replay overturns in the course of the regular season.

I'm usually one of the people on this board telling people to cool down the victim complex. But this? The timing is obvious. DPI helped the 2012 Ravens so much more than the 2017 Pats and no one except us complained (and we complained about Kyle Arrington more than the rulebook).

 

[jah]

Remember when they fixed overtime by changing the rules?
Remember when they fixed the catch rule by changing the rule?
Remember when they fixed the challenge rule by changing the rule?


No, you don't, because some problems have no 100% solutions.




The coin toss is unfair, too. How should we fix that?

The challenge rule as in the one that doesn't nullify a review if you throw the red flag inside the 2 minute warning? I dunno. That one seemed kinda necessary. I still can't believe that one Justin Forsett(?) play.

 

[XLIX]

You asked me to provide evidence backing this assertion and I did.

LOL!!!

Saying "I saw a game once where this happened!!" is not even remotely considered providing evidence to support the idea that it is a systemic failure in the sport.

Nice try though.

Meanwhile, we’re still waiting on that data comparing NFL DPI on a per-team basis to that of the NCAA. Only I’m not waiting with bated breath anymore. I didn’t want to suffocate in the same manner that your wife suffocates on a Baconator.

AWESOME sense of humor, brah. Did you mother have any properly developed children?

 

[XLIX]

I'm usually one of the people on this board telling people to cool down the victim complex. But this? The timing is obvious. DPI helped the 2012 Ravens so much more than the 2017 Pats and no one except us complained (and we complained about Kyle Arrington more than the rulebook).

The rules are inherently neutral. A rule change can't change the past and if they change the rule going forward, it is just as likely to help the Patriots as hurt them. I imagine the Patriots would benefit from this rule change (if it actually goes through) because Belichick will then coach the defense up accordingly.

They can change the DPI rule. They can change the tuck rule. They can change the definition of a catch. As long as the referees are fair, the new rules are just as likely to benefit NE as hurt NE (and if the referees aren't fair, then there's no need to bother tinkering with the rulebook if you wanted to stick it to a certain team)

 

[maust]

 

[Deus Irae]

The challenge rule as in the one that doesn't nullify a review if you throw the red flag inside the 2 minute warning? I dunno. That one seemed kinda necessary. I still can't believe that one Justin Forsett(?) play.

They've made multiple modifications to the challenge rule, and it still sucks.

 

[Kontradiction]

LOL!!!

Saying "I saw a game once where this happened!!" is not even remotely considered providing evidence to support the idea that it is a systemic failure in the sport.

I never said there was systematic failure. Just that the rule is a bad one and leads to corners committing DPI instead of giving up long passes. I then provided an article with a GIF image that you could watch again and again if you wanted to. Said article also went into detail on why the rule is a bad one. That doesn’t equal systematic failure. That’s either a reading comprehension failure on your part or you’re making an attempt at a straw man. Neither would surprise me.

AWESOME sense of humor, brah. Did you mother have any properly developed children?

Always funny to watch some old asswipe try to use young man lingo. “Brah?” That’s even more painful than watching some complete and utter loser that gets banned from a message board having to sneak back on under a different nickname. At least I don’t have to borrow cutdowns from Gunnery Seargeant Hartman.

 

[XLIX]

I never said there was systematic failure. Just that the rule is a bad one and leads to corners committing DPI instead of giving up long passes. I then provided an article with a GIF image that you could watch again and again if you wanted to. Said article also went into detail on why the rule is a bad one. That doesn’t equal systematic failure. That’s either a reading comprehension failure on your part or you’re making an attempt at a straw man. Neither would surprise me.



Always funny to watch some old asswipe try to use young man lingo. “Brah?” That’s even more painful than watching some complete and utter loser that gets banned from a message board having to sneak back on under a different nickname. At least I don’t have to borrow cutdowns from Gunnery Seargeant Hartman.

AWESOME sense of humor, brah.

 

[Kontradiction]

AWESOME sense of humor, brah.

Most people would agree. Mull that sense of humor over in the morning when you’re staring at your old man tits in the mirror, pops.

 

[XLIX]

They've made multiple modifications to the challenge rule, and it still sucks.

I consider the current rule to be the least of all potential evils. I think they should expand what replay can cover, but maintain a system of challenges like we currently have.

 

[Joker]

I consider all the changes instituted by Crudell since 2006 to be moronic, unnecessary and blatant pandering to the networks. The only rule I want to see enforced is the "stick Goodell in a vat of HCL" the next time he opens his punk mouth.

 

[XLIX]

I consider all the changes instituted by Crudell since 2006 to be moronic, unnecessary and blatant pandering to the networks.

I agree - well, I think the changes are implemented to pander to the ESPN talking mediots and talk radio hosts. The league overreacts to the criticism they get from those parties.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

The rule that I hate is the "half the distance to the goal" rule on offense. I think the penalty should move you back to the one-yard line. It is in opposition to penalties against the defense in the red zone.

What do you mean? Penalties against the defense are also subject to the "half the distance to the goal" limitation.

 

[1960Pats]

Because if you're beat so badly that tackling the receiver before the ball gets there is a better option, perhaps you can't even make the tackle in the first place? And if you're close enough to tackle you're close enough to try and make a play on the ball rather than risk the penalty or TD

If the db can make the tackle then maybe he's close enough to deserve just a 15 yard penalty.

One of the best interviews I've ever heard on this came from Mike Pereira on radio many years ago when they first started with the spot fouls.

Pereira was laying the blame (rightfully) on the competition committee. He was dead set against the spot foul calls. I'll see if I can find it. I think it was on 98.5 more than a decade ago.

 

[1960Pats]

This would be a terrible rule change for John harbaugh. Not sure why you brought him into your argument seeing that DPI on deep passes are a huge part of the Ravens pass offense.

3 of the 4 AFC teams on the competition committee are from the North, including the Ratbirds. As long as they have Flacco they'll be a no vote on the change.

 

[maust]

The change I'd most like to see when it comes to PI is an embellishment penalty on the divas who put on high theatrics to draw a call. I'm okay with giving them an undeserved Emmy for the performance, it's the unearned yards that tick me off. Along with that it'd be great if they made it a 'point of emphasis' to enforce the existing rule that the ball has to be at least remotely catchable in order to call PI. We routinely see balls that fall 2 yards wide of being inbounds draw flags.

 

[JarOfMayo51]

I think a better option would be to just make the existing pass interference a reviewable play by coaches with a challenge

 

[Tunescribe]

Terrible idea.

Not only that, it's a HORRENDOUS idea. I wish they'd stop tinkering with things. It's already bad enough they've now decided to turn non-catches into catches.