What’s our cap space situation?

[ATippett56]

I did not say that McClellin would not be cut. I pointed out that it is possible that if cut while injured that he would qualify for the injury protection benefit which would kick in September.

Please clarify whether Rob Gronkowski's NLTBE bonus has been taken into account for the 2018 New England Patriots Salary Cap calculations.

Rob Gronkowski

2017 Incentives (all NLTBE)
70% snaps OR 60 rec/800 yards OR 10 TD: $1M
80% snaps OR 70 rec OR 1,000 yards OR 12 TD: $3M
90% snaps OR 80 rec/ 1,200 yards, 14 TD OR All Pro selection: $5.5M

2017 AP All-Pro Team

2017 AP All-Pro Team
Offense
Quarterback - Tom Brady, New England
Tight End - Rob Gronkowski, New England

 

[DW Toys]

IIRC, that $25M-$35M included potential extension-based restructurings for both Brady and McCourty and was pretty much the maximum reasonable estimate.

What if we trade McCourty for some draft capital or a player?
Harmon and Chung are still there. Draft a young safety (which BB will do anyway).
I think McCourty is over-hyped here. 2016 was better.
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[DW Toys]

The QB that will help the Patriots isn't there this year unfortunately.

Mason Rudolph is kind of a Rick Mallet type. Unless by some miracle Lamar Jackson lasts to the end of the 2nd round, the Patriots will not be finding a starting level QB. Maybe a Luke Falk type, possibly.

But I don't see any of the top 4 QBs leaving the first round.

That leaves Rudolph and Jackson. I'm leary of Rudolph, and would not take Jackson prior to the end of the 2nd.

Either way, I don't see the Patriots finding Brady's successor here.

Look into Kaepernick ;^)

Take a shot at Jackson at #31? Is he Michael Bishop redo? Is he Brissett (no thanks)?
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[Miguel]

Yes, I have accounted for incentives in my salary cap space number.

 

[maineman209]

I'm posting this in this thread for now, because the first thing I did was to check out how much the Eagles paid him in 2017, and how much they might be able to re-sign him for.

Which is when I discover that, at the moment, the Eagles are already $9.28M OVER THE CAP, according to, well, overthecap.com:

Philadelphia Eagles Salary Cap | Over the Cap

After scrolling through the list of their current contracts, I came to the conclusion that they're pretty much screwed. I don't see how they're going to be able to even get under the cap without cutting some key players and/or significantly re-structuring several others who are on fairly recently signed contracts.

 

[supafly]

I'm posting this in this thread for now, because the first thing I did was to check out how much the Eagles paid him in 2017, and how much they might be able to re-sign him for.

Which is when I discover that, at the moment, the Eagles are already $9.28M OVER THE CAP, according to, well, overthecap.com:

Philadelphia Eagles Salary Cap | Over the Cap

After scrolling through the list of their current contracts, I came to the conclusion that they're pretty much screwed. I don't see how they're going to be able to even get under the cap without cutting some key players and/or significantly re-structuring several others who are on fairly recently signed contracts.

I’m assuming that some consideration will be given to trading Foles while his value is at its highest. That would obviously help.

 

[MrNathanDrake]

Almost all those guys are definitely Gone.

Dorsett might stay if he takes a cut. Gillisslee might get a chance if he takes a cut also.

Branch and Allen alone will save a lot of money and both will for sure be cut.

 

[maineman209]

I’m assuming that some consideration will be given to trading Foles while his value is at its highest. That would obviously help.

Traded before June 1st nets the Eagles about $4.7M in 2018 cap space. Traded after June 1st, it's about $6.5M.

Obviously, they need cap space RTFN, so actions after June 1st don't help a whole lot.

 

[ATippett56]

The QB that will help the Patriots isn't there this year unfortunately.

Mason Rudolph is kind of a Rick Mallet type. Unless by some miracle Lamar Jackson lasts to the end of the 2nd round, the Patriots will not be finding a starting level QB. Maybe a Luke Falk type, possibly.

But I don't see any of the top 4 QBs leaving the first round.

That leaves Rudolph and Jackson. I'm leary of Rudolph, and would not take Jackson prior to the end of the 2nd.

Either way, I don't see the Patriots finding Brady's successor here.

Look into Kaepernick ;^)

It would not shock me if several quarterback starved teams trade back into the bottom of the first round to reach for a quarterback ahead of the New England Patriots (31st overall).

 

[ATippett56]

Almost all those guys are definitely Gone.

Dorsett might stay if he takes a cut. Gillisslee might get a chance if he takes a cut also.

Branch and Allen alone will save a lot of money and both will for sure be cut.

The two biggest salary cap savings are cutting Martellus Bennett ($6,187,500) and Dwayne Allen ($5,000,000).

New England Patriots Salary Cap | Over the Cap

Unfortunately, re-signing left offensive tackle Nate Solder will eat up most if not all of the aforementioned salary cap savings.

Left Tackle Contracts and Salaries | Over The Cap

 

[ATippett56]

Almost all those guys are definitely Gone.

Dorsett might stay if he takes a cut. Gillisslee might get a chance if he takes a cut also.

Branch and Allen alone will save a lot of money and both will for sure be cut.

New England Patriots salary cap savings:

New England Patriots Salary Cap | Over the Cap

Bennett, Martellus - $6,187,500
Allen, Dwayne - $5,000,000
Branch, Alan - $3,550,000
Harris, David - $2,125,000
Britt, Kenny - $1,453,125

2018 Potential Cuts: Tight End | Over the Cap

 

[UFGatorPat]

When do we begin to see cuts and other transactions?

 

[ATippett56]

When do we begin to see cuts and other transactions?

2018 Important NFL Dates | NFL Football Operations

March 14, 2018 - 2018 league year and free agency period begin at 4:00 p.m., NY time.

 

[JarOfMayo51]

Solder was already making $10 million a year on his previous deal, so its not going to take a whole lot to fit him back on the roster at a $2 million increase

 

[supafly]

New England Patriots salary cap savings:

New England Patriots Salary Cap | Over the Cap

Bennett, Martellus - $6,187,500
Allen, Dwayne - $5,000,000
Branch, Alan - $3,550,000
Harris, David - $2,125,000
Britt, Kenny - $1,453,125

2018 Potential Cuts: Tight End | Over the Cap

Shae McClellin could be yet another candidate, with a cap savings of 2.35m dollars.

 

[Deus Irae]

Solder was already making $10 million a year on his previous deal, so its not going to take a whole lot to fit him back on the roster at a $2 million increase

But is he really a 3/$36m player? That's a question that the Patriots have to answer from their perspective. I don't think he's worth that, but the OLT FA market has nothing in it, as of now, and the Patriots will have to take that into account.

 

[ATippett56]

Shae McClellin could be yet another candidate, with a cap savings of 2.35m dollars.

Refer to post #38

What’s our cap space situation?

 

[HailHydra]

Because we thought we had adequate depth at the 'sett position, and perceived a need for depth at the Malco(l)m position and the
Brand(e/I/o)n position.

I really don't like Brissett as a QB. While he may win a few games here and there, I don't think he ever gains those valuable skills that make franchise QBs. I think that having him here as a backup would prevent the franchise from drafting another, potentially better, QB.

 

[Tunescribe]

So, cutting Bennett, Allen and Harris would save close to $12 million bringing cap space to about $25 million? Am I reading that right?

 

[Deus Irae]

So, cutting Bennett, Allen and Harris would save close to $12 million bringing cap space to about $25 million? Am I reading that right?

Assuming they are cut:

Bennett - $6,187,500
Allen - $5,000,000
Harris - $2,125,000
Total - $13,312,500

Branch - 3,555,000
Total - $16,867,5000

OTC's current projection - $13,712,155
Total - $30,579,655


Four cuts gets the team to $30m+ under the cap, though it would impact the TE position.

New England Patriots Salary Cap | Over the Cap