Patriots 2018 Coaching Staff News and Opinions (edit)

[skspikex2]

Not sure with the whole bend and don't break defense. Yesterday, they got bended over and their asses broken.

 

[TennisBallHead]

Well his D gave up 41 points and a record amount of yards...so yeah he's a bit responsible. His defense made zero adjustments throughout the game and couldn't get one stop when it mattered.

I love how whenever they play well, it's Belichick's defense, when they suck, it's Patricia's.

 

[Deus Irae]

Well, then here's hoping they get some talent on that DL. I just prefer to watch the more aggressive D's.

My preferred starting point on defense is at LB, but the FA list that's out there right now is one that is light on talent. As for the DT position, I'd be very interested in seeing how much Dontari Poe is looking for (especially if the coaching staff thinks they can improve his technique), I'd be interested enough to look at Justin Ellis as a run defense specialist, and I'd be interested in whether or not Kyle Williams would take a short (1 real year, one not-so-real year) deal as a rotational player. At DE, Demarcus Lawrence is going to be too expensive, or I'd start the looking there.

 

[FCB02062]

If schiano can devise a defense that doesn't allow teams to waltz up and down the field and doesn't let guys like Blake bortles and Nick Foles have career days, I'm all for Schiano

 

[50-yard-line]

My preferred starting point on defense is at LB, but the FA list that's out there right now is one that is light on talent. As for the DT position, I'd be very interested in seeing how much Dontari Poe is looking for (especially if the coaching staff thinks they can improve his technique), I'd be interested enough to look at Justin Ellis as a run defense specialist, and I'd be interested in whether or not Kyle Williams would take a short (1 real year, one not-so-real year) deal as a rotational player. At DE, Demarcus Lawrence is going to be too expensive, or I'd start the looking there.

Good list. Poe is great.

Do they try to keep Harrison?

 

[Love The Drake]

Good list. Poe is great.

Do they try to keep Harrison?

We Paid Gilmore why not Lawrence?

 

[BTTA]

I take issue with the totally negative description of the defense. It has several good players upon which to build next year: McCourty, Chung, HT, Brown, both Flowers and Gilmore. Van Noy is better than a JAG. Wise and Adam Butler have potential. We'll see about Rivers. There's a lot of work to do, but that's a pretty good place to start to rebuild.

This is where we overvalue our own guys. If you put all the DE's in the League against a wall and ranked them for talent, Flowers would be somewhere in the middle. That is, by definition, mediocre. And that would be true of everyone in the front seven except (a healthy) Hightower and possibly Brown. Counting on last year's crop of injured rookies is fool's gold.

The defensive backfield has three players who are good to excellent. The front seven needs three or four as well if the defense is to be able to stand up to good offenses.

On the other hand, Philly was really hot. I'm not sure if there's a team in the League that could have slowed them down last night. So there's that.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

My preferred starting point on defense is at LB, but the FA list that's out there right now is one that is light on talent. As for the DT position, I'd be very interested in seeing how much Dontari Poe is looking for (especially if the coaching staff thinks they can improve his technique), I'd be interested enough to look at Justin Ellis as a run defense specialist, and I'd be interested in whether or not Kyle Williams would take a short (1 real year, one not-so-real year) deal as a rotational player. At DE, Demarcus Lawrence is going to be too expensive, or I'd start the looking there.

We need linebackers that can move in space and cover.

Also need a defensive tackle that can create pressure.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

If schiano can devise a defense that doesn't allow teams to waltz up and down the field and doesn't let guys like Blake bortles and Nick Foles have career days, I'm all for Schiano

You need a strong pass rush for that to happen and for that you need the right personnel.

 

[Sciz]

We Paid Gilmore why not Lawrence?

Cowboys fans seem convinced that the team will be able to find enough cap room in order to tag Lawrence.

 

[mosi]

They need a true defensive playmaker. They have one and his name is Hightower, but they need another two. Watching the 2004-5 SB made me reminisce about Brushci, Vrable, Seymour and Harrison. All those guys were studs. We need more of those guys.

 

[NE_Zealot]

Wasn’t Schiano a disaster in TB? I’d rather have a young forward-thinker like a Sean McVay. Get some young blood that will be with the staff for several years. He turned that Rams team around in short order. He wasn’t a moron like Fisher, get me a guy like that please.

 

[Deus Irae]

We need linebackers that can move in space and cover.

Then you'd better scour the cuts list and the draft, because the expected FA list isn't much help there.

Also need a defensive tackle that can create pressure.

Valentine should be back, so we can hope he's going to be something, but it would be crazy to depend on him at this point, IMO. Brown's an ok player, but that's about it. Branch's fall, regardless of reason, really impacted the run defense, especially in combination with the loss of Hightower. I would expect a run stuffing DT to be a higher priority than a pass pressure guy at the position.

 

[upstater1]

Gonna throw some names at you of people who did not play defense yesterday for the Patriots and some who did and maybe shouldn't have!: Derek Rivers, Cyrus Jones, Vincent Valentine, Jordan Richards, Geneo Grissom, D. Easley, Jamie Collins, Logan Ryan, Chandler Jones, Done Hightower, Tavon Wilson, the Roger Goodell Special Shiv to his BFF Kraft.

In the last 6 drafts, the Patriots expended 13 high picks on defense. Only 2 of those players saw the field and helped the cause yesterday. Others were good players but not fit for the team/scheme (Collins, Chander Jones), others were injured (Hightower, Rivers, Valentine, Cyrus), others are flat out busts (Easley, Grissom, Richards, Wilson), one left for FA which is understandable (Ryan), and one pick was stolen away in a ridiculous manufactured hoax that would Vince McMahon proud.

Trey Flowers, Duron Harmon

I'd submit that the defense is really really hurting because, whatever the cause, you only have Flowers and Harmon out there from the last 6 drafts.

And when it comes to first rounders? Nothing.

For a myriad of reasons, that defense is talent deficient.

 

[HailHydra]

Ohio State's defense allowed the 5th least yards per play, 6th least rushing yards per game, ~ 199 passing yards per base (not amazing comparatively), so it was a solid year by his unit. They also allowed 266 points in 14 games.

 

[Deus Irae]

Gonna throw some names at you of people who did not play defense yesterday for the Patriots and some who did and maybe shouldn't have!: Derek Rivers, Cyrus Jones, Vincent Valentine, Jordan Richards, Geneo Grissom, D. Easley, Jamie Collins, Logan Ryan, Chandler Jones, Done Hightower, Tavon Wilson, the Roger Goodell Special Shiv to his BFF Kraft.

In the last 6 drafts, the Patriots expended 13 high picks on defense. Only 2 of those players saw the field and helped the cause yesterday. Others were good players but not fit for the team/scheme (Collins, Chander Jones), others were injured (Hightower, Rivers, Valentine, Cyrus), others are flat out busts (Easley, Grissom, Richards, Wilson), one left for FA which is understandable (Ryan), and one pick was stolen away in a ridiculous manufactured hoax that would Vince McMahon proud.

Trey Flowers, Duron Harmon

I'd submit that the defense is really really hurting because, whatever the cause, you only have Flowers and Harmon out there from the last 6 drafts.

And when it comes to first rounders? Nothing.

For a myriad of reasons, that defense is talent deficient.

This excerpt from post I made in another thread seems like it fits here, too:

...Malcolm Brown is the only first round pick from the last 5 years (2013-2017) that's on the roster (Thanks, in part, to Herr Goodell), and the only second rounders still on the roster from that time period are Richards and Cyrus Jones....

Positions that we need to address this offseason.

 

[borisman]

Ohio State's defense allowed the 5th least yards per play, 6th least rushing yards per game, ~ 199 passing yards per base (not amazing comparatively), so it was a solid year by his unit. They also allowed 266 points in 14 games.

That isn't the NFL. They have a top 10 recruiting class every year. Against very good offenses they didn't do so well (see Penn St game). Oklahoma got them early in the year as well. The only poor offense they got run over by was Iowa but the whole team played like a bunch of girls that day. Turnovers were a plenty that day.
Not saying I don't like Schiano (I do) but he's not a defensive savior. I do think he'd be a great fit here.

 

[zipster9]

If schiano can devise a defense that doesn't allow teams to waltz up and down the field and doesn't let guys like Blake bortles and Nick Foles have career days, I'm all for Schiano

I don't want a DC that is just a "yes man" to BillB. I want a DC that can think for himself and come up with different opinions and ideas.

 

[Mr.Bandwagon]

We need some nasty on this defense!!!!
A hard hitting son of a *****e.s!!!

 

[chasa]

Matt Patricia isn't the reason for losing. The D was bend but not break.

It broke.

It broke so hard people who survived the titanic were triggered.