Rams Accused of Lining Up Quickly to Manipulate Communications...and no one cares...

[brdmaverick]

Is the same true for defensive players with stickers? Do coaches get to talk to them up to 15 seconds on the play clock?

 

[Tony2046]

Is the same true for defensive players with stickers? Do coaches get to talk to them up to 15 seconds on the play clock?

Great question.

 

[NYPatsFan]

Mike Lombardi said that Sean McVay has the Rams offense get into formation quickly so that McVay can read the defense and tell Goff what to do before the 15 second cut off. He wondered why defenses don't line up in a base defense like cover 2, and then change their alignment when the play clock gets down to 15 seconds.

 

[goheels22002]

The rams haven’t played the Ravens yet

How much air was in Goff's balls?

 

[Ivan]

If Bill Pollian we’re still alive he would have the rules changed so you wait until his team was ready.

 

[TbSB5]

Steelers deflated balls last year, and no one gave a ****. Wtf?

 

[JarOfMayo51]

How could anyone have any problem with this?
It’s 100% legal, fine and smart.

I agree its nothing illegal and its totally fine to take advantage of the rules as they're written, and i would encourage all teams to do it

but i also agree that if the article was about the Pats and Brady doing this, there would be the typical media outrage

The ineligible WR play we ran against the Ravens was completely within the rules, they even explained the play to the refs before the game started just to be sure and also so that they were aware of what they were trying to do... none of that mattered or was mentioned in the media outrage that occurred afterwards, and opposing fans to this day still use that game as "another example of the Patriots cheating"

I think Brady and the Pats just bring so much publicity that people love to pillage them to drive traffic and clicks, because its really profitable to do so... not so much with Goff and the Rams

 

[TbSB5]

@JarOfMayo51
It's because the Pats are the Cowboys of the '90s. Successful winning franchise.

 

[captain stone]

@TbSB5
It's because the Pats are coached by Bill Belichick and QBed by Tom Brady.

 

[SammyBlueCat]

Would that make him a copycat?

The whole league is a bunch of copy cats.

 

[Ring 6]

I agree its nothing illegal and its totally fine to take advantage of the rules as they're written, and i would encourage all teams to do it

but i also agree that if the article was about the Pats and Brady doing this, there would be the typical media outrage

The ineligible WR play we ran against the Ravens was completely within the rules, they even explained the play to the refs before the game started just to be sure and also so that they were aware of what they were trying to do... none of that mattered or was mentioned in the media outrage that occurred afterwards, and opposing fans to this day still use that game as "another example of the Patriots cheating"

I think Brady and the Pats just bring so much publicity that people love to pillage them to drive traffic and clicks, because its really profitable to do so... not so much with Goff and the Rams

I don’t remember anyone calling the ineligible receiver cheating. Harbaugh called it deceptive and of course the league banned it to give the appearance that the payrioys did something wrong but there was no outrage or accusations of cheating.

 

[convertedpatsfan]

Is the same true for defensive players with stickers? Do coaches get to talk to them up to 15 seconds on the play clock?

Yes, both teams get to talk up to 15 seconds unless you're the Giants, then you just use walkie talkies the whole time.

Mike Lombardi said that Sean McVay has the Rams offense get into formation quickly so that McVay can read the defense and tell Goff what to do before the 15 second cut off. He wondered why defenses don't line up in a base defense like cover 2, and then change their alignment when the play clock gets down to 15 seconds.

This has been known for a while. Apparently the Vikings did it during their match-up a few weeks ago. The Saints might have tried, but they were missing too many guys.

I don't think Goff is entirely reliant upon it, but it certainly can be helpful for him. However you have to remember they could always snap the ball at any point so if they snap it before 15 seconds, then your defense can't switch, and McVay can speak the entire time, so you can't just depend on that strategy alone.

 

[maineman209]

Steelers deflated balls last year, and no one gave a ****. Wtf?

Meh. The Steelers' balls are way over-inflated most of the time anyway.

 

[2000army]

Hate to break it to everyone but Brady said he does the same thing with McDaniels

 

[TommyD4207]

Mike Lombardi said that Sean McVay has the Rams offense get into formation quickly so that McVay can read the defense and tell Goff what to do before the 15 second cut off. He wondered why defenses don't line up in a base defense like cover 2, and then change their alignment when the play clock gets down to 15 seconds.

Perhaps they will now - assuming there are teams out there who are smart enough to do that.

 

[p8ryts]

Smart on the part of McVay/Goff... they manipulated the rules and had some success.

Same type of thing that BB has done for years now, the outcry would have been much different if he did it, but seems legal to this fan..

We will see if the competition committee addresses it..

 

[p8ryts]

why would the competition committee do anything about this? There is nothing wrong with this. I hate it when college teams at the line of scrimmage look over at the coach for a play change but its not wrong. Coaches adapt. They have Goff and we have Brady. We don't need the extra check but I believe that Josh talks to Brady as long as possible. When a youngster replaces Brady maybe the Pats will do the same thing. I'm old so I like the Johnny Unitas taking a game plan to the field and executing it himself without today's headsets and coaches calling the plays. Its just evolution.

 

[DarrylS]

why would the competition committee do anything about this? There is nothing wrong with this. I hate it when college teams at the line of scrimmage look over at the coach for a play change but its not wrong. Coaches adapt. They have Goff and we have Brady. We don't need the extra check but I believe that Josh talks to Brady as long as possible. When a youngster replaces Brady maybe the Pats will do the same thing. I'm old so I like the Johnny Unitas taking a game plan to the field and executing it himself without today's headsets and coaches calling the plays. Its just evolution.

"We will see if the Competition Committee addresses it."... no one said they will.

 

[neuronet]

My God they are lucky they haven't played the Ravenbabies yet. Harbaugh would have a tantrum for days.

Seems a perfectly reasonable rule, and there is nothing wrong with what they are doing. I guess they could change the rule so that you have to stop communication once the huddle breaks. I'd be fine with that too. It would certainly help the more seasoned vets. Just seems like not that big a deal.

Pats will do it against the Steelers, and then we'll have crying Tomlin on our hands and immediate rule change.

 

[maineman209]

Perhaps they will now - assuming there are teams out there who are smart enough to do that.

Defenses (good ones, anyway) nearly always try to disguise what they're doing until a second or two before the snap. There's no rule that requires them to be "set" as there is with the offense. And the offense has all sorts of tricks (man in motion, etc.) that they try to use to get the defense to reveal itself and/or commit.