Guess who's coming back to the Pats this season? (Maybe)

[Patstopia]

I'd rather have VV!

Mitchell is not even guaranteed to make it to the playoffs healthy. The Pats don't seem to have problems putting up points.

 

[supafly]

As far as I'm concerned Malcolm does not exist until I see him on the field. He's been hurt since he got her. I expect nothing from him. Anything we get is a pleasant, unexpected surprise. Done thinking about him.

No way we win the SB last February without him and his 6 crucial catches for 70 yards.

Even if he never produces again, winning a SB is worthy of a 4th round draft pick. He’s not a “bust.” He had over 400 yards and 4 TDs in the regular season, too.

 

[maineman209]

Before the Hogan injury and the acquisition of RJF (another Packers refugee btw), I was leaning more toward VV. But, now, I think I'd rather have MM as insurance for the offense.

 

[supafly]

Mitchell is not even guaranteed to make it to the playoffs healthy.

Who would take his place? The receiver who’s got 3 catches since week two?

 

[Ochmed Jones]

The game is won and lost in the trenches. I would rather have valentine and brown back healthy in order to stop the opposing team’s ground games.

 

[supafly]

Before the Hogan injury and the acquisition of RJF (another Packers refugee btw), I was leaning more toward VV. But, now, I think I'd rather have MM as insurance for the offense.

My thoughts exactly, but I’d add in the lack of development/production from Dorsett to that formula, too. Had he been gaining the trust of Brady in these past 2 games without Hogan, I may have gone back to leaning towards bringing VV back.

 

[Pats2000]

As far as I'm concerned Malcolm does not exist until I see him on the field. He's been hurt since he got her. I expect nothing from him. Anything we get is a pleasant, unexpected surprise. Done thinking about him.

Yeah, he played so poorly last year. Screw that guy and his 70 yards in the SB. I say we just cut his legs off and put him out on the street to live the rest of his miserable life homeless, friendless, and with dead dreams. Oh we should probably kill his family as well for good measure...

 

[The Brandon Five]

He's not. Don't follow?

What’s the point of the thread?

 

[supafly]

The game is won and lost in the trenches. I would rather have valentine and brown back healthy in order to stop the opposing team’s ground games.

Well, Brown doesn’t factor into the equation since his decision will be made without consideration to VV/MM, but I agree with you that the run defense is a concern. Hopefully, Brown is healing and back soon. Either way, the run defense is going to remain an area of weakness.

I was initially on board with your thinking, but I think it’s easier to plug in a different DT than it is to try and have an outside WR learn little pieces of the playbook over time. If another WR goes down right now, Dorsett instantly becomes the WR2. If you don’t think that would pose a problem, imagine Amendola and Dorsett as our main 2 receivers, with a practice squader or castoff like Kenbrell Thompkins brought back to be the WR3.

 

[Silver Blue&Red]

With Hightower our we need BOTH Brown and valentine to rotate with branch and clog the middle.

Love Mitchell but he is an extra toy at this point and we have plenty.

It's comforting to know he's (possibly) available, if needed. ?

 

[Silver Blue&Red]

No way we win the SB last February without him and his 6 crucial catches for 70 yards.

Even if he never produces again, winning a SB is worthy of a 4th round draft pick. He’s not a “bust.” He had over 400 yards and 4 TDs in the regular season, too.

He was a pleasant surprise. He outplayed my expectations. And when it really mattered most.

And I'm sure he's improved, mentally,

Not shabby reserve to have, IMO

 

[dafoe2016]

Yeah, he played so poorly last year. Screw that guy and his 70 yards in the SB. I say we just cut his legs off and put him out on the street to live the rest of his miserable life homeless, friendless, and with dead dreams. Oh we should probably kill his family as well for good measure...

I'm supposed to pine away for the guy because he did his job in the Super Bowl 10 months ago? He cannot stay on the field. That's just a fact. Doesn't mean I hate the guy, drama queen. It just means that my expectations of him contributing are justifiably low. Some guys' bodies just are not built to be professional athletes. He might be one of them. He couldn't even stay healthy in college. Damaged his ACL celebrating a teammate's TD, for Christ's sake. Who does that? Given that Bill's mantra is avaliability over ability it's hard to imagine him being here after his rookie deal expires unless he takes a hometown discount. Especially if he has a big 2019 season. Rooting for the Pats is like watching the Walking Dead. Pointless to get all that attached to all but a handful of players.

 

[fnordcircle]

Already burned his jersey.

 

[Ivan]

I'm supposed to pine away for the guy because he did his job in the Super Bowl 10 months ago? He cannot stay on the field. That's just a fact. Doesn't mean I hate the guy, drama queen. It just means that my expectations of him contributing are justifiably low. Some guys' bodies just are not built to be professional athletes. He might be one of them. He couldn't even stay healthy in college. Damaged his ACL celebrating a teammate's TD, for Christ's sake. Who does that? Given that Bill's mantra is avaliability over ability it's hard to imagine him being here after his rookie deal expires unless he takes a hometown discount. Especially if he has a big 2019 season. Rooting for the Pats is like watching the Walking Dead. Pointless to get all that attached to all but a handful of players.

I know it. Just like that p*ssy Edelman, who tore his ACL just changing direction.

Man, if only the Patriots could have a roster full of internet tough guys instead of sissies like Edelman, Hightower, and Mitchell, they would be sooooooi much better.

FTR I broke my elbow the same way Mitchell did and I didn’t miss a game, he was out for weeks,. What a p*ssy.

 

[TheBostonStraggler]

The decision is coming very soon one way or the other.

Assuming VV and MM are both healthy enough to go and their is no obvious deficit type need due to an injury in the next few days(no!)? If MM picks up where his production was leading to, that would be a notable upgrade over what Dorsett has so far been producing. But I recall VV showing some promise last year. If memory serves me he earned a couple of starts and for a rookie was showing some ability to plug the middle.

Touch call. I think we are more in need of better interior DL depth (assuming VV is "quality" depth) but I'd bet MM makes a quicker impact.

 

[Tony2046]

I know it. Just like that p*ssy Edelman, who tore his ACL just changing direction.

Man, if only the Patriots could have a roster full of internet tough guys instead of sissies like Edelman, Hightower, and Mitchell, they would be sooooooi much better.

FTR I broke my elbow the same way Mitchell did and I didn’t miss a game, he was out for weeks,. What a p*ssy.

It's incredible isn't it? Sometimes I can't believe what I'm reading.

 

[Mike the Brit]

When did we start this alliterative naming fad? “Peter Parker, green goblin... and worst of all, J Jonah Jameson...”

Kliff Kingsbury, Kevin Kasper ... I'm sure there's more Ks before we even start on Wes Welker ...

 

[TheBostonStraggler]

I know it. Just like that p*ssy Edelman, who tore his ACL just changing direction.

Man, if only the Patriots could have a roster full of internet tough guys instead of sissies like Edelman, Hightower, and Mitchell, they would be sooooooi much better.

FTR I broke my elbow the same way Mitchell did and I didn’t miss a game, he was out for weeks,. What a p*ssy.

"Man, if only the Patriots could have a roster full of internet tough guys instead of sissies like Edelman, Hightower, and Mitchell"

Friggin A! Get me out there instead of the Nancy Drew and Hardy Boys we currently got and I'll clothesline everyone of the candy ass punks on Pitt and Jax, and power us like a runaway freight train straight through to a 100-0 SB victory.

 

[maineman209]

What’s the point of the thread?

Well, geez! I mean, if you're gonna get all existential about it ...!

 

[TomPatriot]

I'd take VV over MM but that's a 60/40 proposition.

VV would be a great addition to the D line but MM is a valuable receiving threat.

Kontra's Red zone argument makes sense too.

Whatever. I'll let Bill decide this one.

Bill replies, “Thanks, Tony, but I’d really like to run it by you.” ​