Patriots Player Departure Jimmy Garoppolo traded to SF for 2018 2nd round draft pick

[pheenix11]

I have to laugh at anyone here who thinks they know better than Belichick what Jimmy is worth.

We saw 1.5 games of football.

Matt Flynn looked like Unitas after one game and look how that turned out.

 

[dafoe2016]

Really don't get the trade. Pats sock puppets (Shefter and Rappaport) claim it will take a "kings ransom" around draft time and now Crapsheet comes out and says the Browns really didn't offer a 1st only a second. I don't know what to believe other than this was terrible timing. We drafted him in the second and developed him for 3.5 years only to trade him to break even? I'd get it if we got back a player that they thought could help us make a run this year.

How many teams draft a backup QB and break even a few years later? Usually the player is cut and the pick wasted. I don't like the timing. This is a contender. If their 40 year old QB goes down now they are done. With JG they had a chance even with a Brady injury.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

I have two words ( and two letters) for you.....

Ras IR Dowling.

Keep me out of this please.

 

[Rusty Coupe]

Brady has been hit so many times this season. That's what concerns me. This damn o line hasn't done a good job protecting brady.

Looking at the trade from a different POV, it means Brady is healthy.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

Can somebody explain this a little more? Why would trading one player for another count against the comp pick formula?

It's a quirk in the rules that makes no sense.

Impacted the Pats before, too. The Eagles signed Isaac Sopoaga from the 49ers prior to the 2013 season. Pats traded for him at the trading deadline. Not only did he wind up doing nothing and getting benched, but his compensatory status transferred from the Eagles to the Pats too and we lost out of a scheduled 5th round comp pick in 2014.

If you release the player, the liability (if any) still sticks with the signing team. The Steelers signed LaGarrett Blount from the Pats prior to 2014 but cut him after the trade deadline, with the Pats picking him up. The Pats still got a comp pick in 2015 and he still counted against the Steelers in the comp formula because he was released; if he had been traded to the Pats then the Pats would have obtained the liability and thus it would have cancelled out.

Doesn't make sense, but it's how it works.

 

[nabwong]

I got it! Tony Romo signs as Brady's backup. In exchange, he'll be announcing every Pats game from here on out from the sidelines.

Tony gets a ring. We don't have to listen to Fouts no more. Win-Win.

 

[n1997y]

Yes, Hawk is a bona fide smart man. Knows a little about football and the Patriots too.

 

[TheBostonStraggler]

Seems straightforward to me. BB traded an asset that was selected at 62 and traded it for a high second round pick in a draft that has good QB value.

No matter what pundits or fans thought, JG was not going to net a first or multiple firsts midway thru a regular season.

Hard to say what we could get (or even have gotten this past offseason -- reports in the media weren't factual) if we kept plying it right up to tomorrow's deadline.
What I can say is if Cleveland was offering a deal that was better for our team, the suggestion that BB wouldn't deal with Cleveland because of something 20 years ago is painfully stupid.

 

[Pessimistic Pete]

I ****ing hate this trade.

Unless you believe that just about every NFL insider was lying/misled that we could have got a first round pick (if not TWO) from the Browns (aka GOLDEN first round picks), then Belichick ****ed this asset up big time.

We gave up HUGE return value in exchange for an extra 8 weeks of Jimmy holding on to a clipboard on the sidelines.

At the end, this came down to BB potentially doubting if Brady could keep it up again this year (answer: he could) and once that was finally decided, THEN he felt safe in getting rid of Jimmy.

 

[Bruins29]

I have to laugh at anyone here who thinks they know better than Belichick what Jimmy is worth.

We saw 1.5 games of football.

Matt Flynn looked like Unitas after one game and look how that turned out.

Agree, the level of stupid in this thread is comical. This is worse than a game day thread. I see a lot of posters who dont post much who obviously dont really understand football, whining.

JAG hasnt dont **** and in 8 games would have been gone. And to the idiots who are whining that they thought a good player would be coming back, you need to learn that a pick can be traded for a player and there is a good chance the pats will do just that.

There was no 2 firsts for JAG. Matt Cassell was a more proven QB. What did they get for him?

 

[Jlaff]

Hard to say what we could get (or even have gotten this past offseason -- reports in the media weren't factual) if we kept plying it right up to tomorrow's deadline.
What I can say is if Cleveland was offering a deal that was better for our team, the suggestion that BB wouldn't deal with Cleveland because of something 20 years ago is painfully stupid.

I think a Belichick grudge against Cleveland is the only way this trade can be justified in my eyes. But still looking forward to a decent answer.

 

[Tunescribe]

Hard to say what we could get (or even have gotten this past offseason -- reports in the media weren't factual) if we kept plying it right up to tomorrow's deadline.
What I can say is if Cleveland was offering a deal that was better for our team, the suggestion that BB wouldn't deal with Cleveland because of something 20 years ago is painfully stupid.

JG wasn't traded earlier because the Patriots had hopes of coming to terms with him on a contract, which they tried (according to Curran).

 

[Rusty Coupe]

I got it! Tony Romo signs as Brady's backup. In exchange, he'll be announcing every Pats game from here on out from the sidelines.

Tony gets a ring. We don't have to listen to Fouts no more. Win-Win.

I'm sorry, but the deal the Patriots managed was for the other old QB turned broadcaster Jay Cutler.

 

[n1997y]

Dwayne Allen and the SF 49ers 2nd round pick for Martellus Bennett. Book it

Gawd what a waste of a good pick.

 

[VJCPatriot]

Everyone's reaction when the JG trade news hit:

 

[manxman2601]

Brady is next.

BB angling for a four horseman RB attack.

 

[n1997y]

At this point, if Bledsoe goes down our season is over.

Fixed it for you.

 

[supafly]

I absolutely hate this trade. Do you mean to tell me that after all this preaseason drama, we only got a 2nd round pick out of the whole thing when it finally did happen?

Maybe this will help to put the NFL trade compensation process in its proper light for some, although I doubt it. Too many here were actually thinking that Malcolm Butler was going to net us the #11th pick, or that JG was going to fetch multiple high round selections.

First round trades are almost always reserved for upper echelon, elite talent. Like some here asked all offseason long, how many first round trades even go down in the NFL, let alone for a backup QB?

 

[Pessimistic Pete]

I have to laugh at anyone here who thinks they know better than Belichick what Jimmy is worth.

I laugh at everyone who thinks Jimmy's return value (A 2nd round pick) was exactly the same as it would have been in the off-season.

Belichick waiting 8 weeks, unquestionably, led to the value of the asset dropping and therefore was a mistake.

The Patriots gained nothing out of keeping him for 8 more weeks. Belichick's indecisiveness to pull the trigger here cost the team return value.

 

[manxman2601]

@GlennDOrdway: Wasn’t it Adam who said this would never happen?

Actually, I believe he said they woudn’t trade him before the summer. I remember commenting on how specific that was at time.