Post Game Thread Pats @ Bucs

[RobertWeathers]

Really encouraged by this... would've been easy to throw him under the bus. Love this team!

That is good.

Now they need to string some Ws together.

If the D can get it together and stay healthy 9-2 is very reasonable

 

[PittPatriot]

Brady threw it right down the middle of the field with no one around, when all he had to do was what Winston did, which was throw it away to the sideline. That was the difference.

Although it was 10 yards over his head, I think he had a receiver on the near side line.
They showed a sideline angle where you could see the ball sailing overhead and there appeared to be a receiver standing there.
But yes, that Super Bowl intentional grounding call was quite surprising and a downright shocking way to start the game.

 

[PittPatriot]

I think it would have been awesome if at the end of the game Cooks and D. Jackson lined up and ran a 50 yard dash. I would love to see who wins that.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

or if we didnt fumble the ball and misfire in the RZ this wouldve been a blowout.

If the sun rose in the west, it would set in the east.

 

[TomPatriot]

Evans had pretty quiet night. DJax made one great play. Few catches on the defensive right side of the field. Gee, I wonder who was out there.

Tampa is a vertical passing team and that is the strength of quarters and cover 2.

Martin had a few nice runs but the LB SS run play was pretty good most of the night. MC, Roberts, High really stepped up on the reads, which sucked against Carolina.

The OL looks worse because TB has needed more time with less emphasis on the short game. At least two OLs looked like they were really hurting. They need a slot guy to catch more short routes. DA and White did some last night, but it’s not enough. Tampa was really teeing off and draws and screens would’ve been tough because they have smart fleet LBs. I noticed Gills really hit the hole hard and fast and square on more plays last night.

I’m pretty happy with any TNF win. TNF is bad football and tough on the players, especially the front 7 and OL, TEs. Its another way the billionaire owners and their lackeys disrespect the game for very marginal profit.

There are a lot of school days between now and the Jets game. This team is getting better.

 

[ensoul]

Defense was better but has a ton of work to do. Too many long drives and I thought the penalties they commited (which were a ton on special teams) we're absurd. If the bucs kicker was halfway decent pats lose by a point.

Offense was okay but Brady won't make it through the season with this line.

 

[MainePatsFan26]

Defense was better but has a ton of work to do. Too many long drives and I thought the penalties they commited (which were a ton on special teams) we're absurd. If the bucs kicker was halfway decent pats lose by a point.

Offense was okay but Brady won't make it through the season with this line.

Without Gronk and Edelman out there, the line's problems were further exposed. We need some new talent upfront, as the second the Patriots don't have the quick throws the line falls apart. The Denver game, unless we fix things, is going to be hell on earth for Brady. Maybe sign Colin K. for that game and let him earn a full season's salary getting mauled by Von Miller.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Agree with the consensus: A Win is a Win, especially on Thursday night, whether you go into the game 4--0 or 0--4.

Best news, the D finally held a team to under 30 points, even if it was a flawed team that, among other things missed three FG's, two from inside 50 yards. Best best news? Six point surrendered in the second half.

Not so good news.

Three more sacks of Brady, as others have discussed. Now more than all of last season. Plus a bunch of hits. At the risk of awakening the "Brady will play to 45" chorus, I just want him playing in December.

Has BB already turned the team over to his kid? Over 100 penalty yards on 12 (accepted) penalties? Two straight Roughing calls that gave TB a chance for a score at the end of the half? This group isn't playing like a BB team...other than that they have a winning record, which, in the end is most important.

After watching his play last night, I'm backing off my criticism of Solder. As Romo (I think it was Romo) said, something's wrong with him. Now, I just hope he gets healthy.

 

[stcjones]

You know you bring up a great point… A lot of our offense of lines have not been spectacular… But you would’ve thought that BB Would have definitely made it a priority to really bring in some big and elite offense of line men to protect Brady at this point in his career… Him getting banged up… Seeing ghosts… Cannot be a good thing for this offense overall


QUOTE="ohiopatsfan, post: 5110612, member: 14413"]I thought the game tonight would be close tonight but didn't think the Bucs would have a chance to win it at the end. The D looked better but the pass rush was still nonexistent and silly penalties and mistakes still dog the Pats. The offense was good enough to win but not as dominating as it has been. TB obviously did not have his best stuff and he sorely missed Gronk. He was hit a lot tonight and that is unforgivable for a 40 year old QB regardless of how well conditioned he is. I saw Scar talking to the O line every time they came off the field and I can't imagine he was happy. TB was rushed so much that he didn't really have the time to spread the ball around. With a 10 day window before the next game, I wonder if BB will make any personnel changes. The team tonight might be able to beat the Bucs and the Jets but the same effort will not work against teams like Atlanta, Oakland and, surprisingly, Buffalo.[/QUOTE]

 

[Nehalem]

Pats had a +2 TO margin against Carolina and lost

Pats had a -2 TO margin against T and won

 

[Triumph]

NE Pats MVP

Jameis Winston for missing wide open WRs all night. Patricia should have given him the game ball.

Defense improved??? A good QB like Smith or Ben would have shredded this defense last night. Winston has been the WORST QB so far.

 

[stcjones]

Take the win, but I feel like I'm watching the Pete Carroll pats where almost every game came down to the last possession

Definitely has a bit of a rod rust feel to it...I’ll give u that !

 

[Creative Username]

Does anyone else think that we sat Gronk last night because we weren't sure if TJ Ward was going to play and didn't want to take the risk?

 

[luuked]

The fact that is was hard for them to employ concepts that challenge our previously exposed weaknesses is a bad sign for them IMO. Our ability to be offensively flexible is such a beautiful feature of our scheme.

Yes, but in a TNF week Monday (the day after you just played a game) suddenly becomes Thursday. There really is not much time to change much short term.

If this game was on Sunday you can be sure they would have added more motions and bunches into their offense. Also the reason it looked so bad against the Panthers is because of the inherent matchup where one of our current big weaknesses ran into something they do regularly, it fits their personnell and they are proficient at running it.

Who knows what the Tampa Bay version of that would have looked like.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

- Defense: bouncing back. Hope they don't forget how they did it with the 10 day rest.

- Flags: Some just undisciplined rubbish, but way too many bad calls. NFL followed the game up with a "Timeline" on "The Tuck Rule." The basic premise of the show was that the tuck rule game launched a dynasty w/5 rings, that's what started it all, they got lucky on one call 15 years ago and look what happened. A lot of Raiders whining. Tin-foil helmet explanation: They knew they were going to screw the Pats with calls, then show the Raiders claiming that they had to beat the refs too... so that Joe Fan feels way better about trash calls.

Controlling for homerism: Meh, win a few, lose a few, must just look like they're trying to screw NE.

- W. I like having another W.

- Offense skill positions. Yes, we can win a game without Gronk around. But the offense machine ain't the same. Good thing that the defense was stopping them by and large, and yes, thanks Nick Folk. Positive signs in running game - not completely toothless albeit against a depleted Tampa D.

- Offensive line. Okay guys we get your little joke, "offensive" can be a pun there, stop horsing around now.

- Alarm-clock/Rollerball-looking Tampa bastards ripping off helmets. When we had a lineman looking around without his helmet, going WTF, it took PatFanKen to make me think "oh yeah he probably had it at one point then it got ripped off, with no flag." So that's a bad non-call, unless there's a story there I didn't read. Then on one play Brady gets tackled and the guy is wedging off his helmet with his forearms. I guess in a league with a CTE problem that's not so important to call, but we do need a former FBI Director and the Thank You For Smoking firm to produce an investigative report if somebody thinks the ball feels flat. Tin-foil hat is back again. Shaking it off.

- AndyJohnson was right on the run D being scheme not play. I hate it but it's true, he called it. Respect.

 

[bormio]

Complaining about bad defense - imagine how defending champ Penguins feel after starting season with a 10-1 loss to the Blackhawks.

 

[condon84]

Lots of sloppy penalties especially on offense that stalled our drives or gave Tampa drives extra lives.

Something has to be wrong Solder. He's not moving well at all.

I wished they got the ball more to Lewis. More so than not, good things happen when the ball is in his hands.

Same with Cooks. He needs to be more involved.

Don't know if Tampa's OL is that good, but our pass rush was non-existent.

It's a shame Donta has to play OLB, he's nowhere near as good there as he is in the middle. Those huge runs up the middle I feel wouldn't happen if he was there.

However, i thought our secondary played well. Chung played great. The catches he gave up towards the end of the game were great plays by the offense when our D was playing prevent.

Great win overall. Our D showed up. We know our offense is going to be good and in a game when they weren't our D bailed them out. These are great team building wins IMO.

Sidenote - I enjoyed Romo's color commentating.

 

[JMC00]

One of the most stressful games I have ever watched and almost every one is a heart attack waiting to happen with this team......Pats were lucky to leave Tampa with a W....if Bucs had a half decent kicker who made just 2 out of the 4 opportunities he had...we lose. Take the W....but man these team has a lot of issues to attend to....

You trolls and doom and gloomers are really sticking to the "Missed FGs were why they won" narrative, huh?

Well two can play the "what if" game.

If Brady hits a wide open Hogan on two plays Pats win by 10+

 

[JMC00]

Don't know if Tampa's OL is that good, but our pass rush was non-existent.

Wrong. People need to stop with sacks and QB hits as the only measurement for pressure. Multiple times pressure got to Winston and made him throw the ball sooner than he would have which resulted in an incompletion.

 

[JMC00]

Captain David Andrews, Ladies and Gentlemen:

Might want to get that stick up your ass looked at.