Post Game Thread Pats @ Bucs

[Joker]

I wear protection when I bang your mom.

well, I was banging YOUR Mom the other night and she screamed out you ain't even her kid....something about a transient named Lauralene, a Fed Ex box and a month's supply of Huggies......

 

[sieglo]

Solder is not right.

Hopefully the extra time before the jets game allows him to rest up.

 

[NE-VT]

Might be the lack of sleep but I dont remember any blown coverages off the top of my head except for that one pass in the first half to the Bucs player (TE ?) that was suddenly completely open but got penalized for a stupid block in the back and resulted in that weird 1st & 4.

Apart from that there was no really blown coverage in the same style as against the Chiefs, Texans or Panthers.

Here was one:

3-2-TB 11

(9:53) (Shotgun) 3-J.Winston pass short middle to 11-D.Jackson to NE 48 for 41 yards (32-D.McCourty).

If I recall: There was that one where Butler was lined up in soft coverage against an ISO WR on a 3 & 2. It is hard to imagine that was Patricia drew it up.

 

[Bcc66duece]

Here was one:

3-2-TB 11

(9:53) (Shotgun) 3-J.Winston pass short middle to 11-D.Jackson to NE 48 for 41 yards (32-D.McCourty).


If I recall: There was that one where Butler was lined up in soft coverage against an ISO WR on a 3 & 2. It is hard to imagine that was Patricia drew it up.

Yeah he was about 10 yards back to the receiver, before they play was even snapped I said to myself the ball is going there, that's a free first down and not only that, it turned into 41 yards.

 

[luuked]

Here was one:

3-2-TB 11

(9:53) (Shotgun) 3-J.Winston pass short middle to 11-D.Jackson to NE 48 for 41 yards (32-D.McCourty).

If I recall: There was that one where Butler was lined up in soft coverage against an ISO WR on a 3 & 2. It is hard to imagine that was Patricia drew it up.

No, I remember the play because it was the only reason the game got close at the end. I just didnt consider this a blown coverage when seeing it live, but being more about Jackson using his speed against a hole in the soft zone. Avoidable but nowhere as egregious as some of the scenes on Sunday. If memory serves it wasnt just Butler being behind on the play but also Harmon taking a very bad angle.

 

[stcjones]

I am pretty sure I aged 20 years tonight

One of the most stressful games I have ever watched and almost every one is a heart attack waiting to happen with this team......Pats were lucky to leave Tampa with a W....if Bucs had a half decent kicker who made just 2 out of the 4 opportunities he had...we lose. Take the W....but man these team has a lot of issues to attend to....

 

[maineman209]

Brady threw it right down the middle of the field with no one around, when all he had to do was what Winston did, which was throw it away to the sideline. That was the difference.

I remember it as a high-arcing throw (thrown blind) to the left around the numbers. I also remember Branch being totally uncovered on that side with the other 20 players on the field bunched up along and behind the LoS from about the middle of the field toward the right side. I'll never understand why Branch didn't go long left as soon as he saw Brady in trouble. At the very least, he'd have been "a receiver in the area". He also might've made the catch and walked into the EZ from there with a 20+ yard head start.

 

[stcjones]

so I do love this team and know we've been spoiled for a long time, but man this defense is going to kill me! I know they played better tonight but man putting it in their hands to win had me nervous! But very happy for the win, go pats!!! how about next week a big comfortable win would be great. lol

Would love to see them actually blow out a team for once....these hang on by the skin of the teeth ...heart attack games are stressful as heII!!!

 

[stcjones]

typical Thursday night game...lots of unforced errors...lots of bush league home calls....Thursday Night Football needs to go in the woodchipper...with that goddamned Scumissioner

Scumissioner....I love it....I think you just gave Barstool Sports a new T Shirt....put that on there with the goodell clown nose pic.....Instant hit!!!

 

[stcjones]

Defense at least showed me it'll figure it out, although it needs to be better still.

Too bad the stat line won't show it. Jameis ended up with 334 even despite only throwing 70 in the first half.

Defense definitely played better....but they got a lot of work to do

 

[maineman209]

Would love to see them actually blow out a team for once....these hang on by the skin of the teeth ...heart attack games are stressful as heII!!!

I was hoping it would be last night so that I could confidently head off to bed early. As you can see, I've already been up for awhile and need to head off to work in about 15 minutes.

 

[stcjones]

What the hell happened to Solder? He is doing a reverse Cannon from last year.

Solder is awful and is going to get tom killed...BB needs to look into trading or bringing in more guys at OL...

 

[maineman209]

My "hot takes" from last night ...

Defense
... looked better through three quarters, and they tightened up well after both Pats turnovers. Then they gave up 214 of Tampa's 409 yards in the 4th (3 long drives), plus a TD, plus a chip shot FG opportunity, plus three big plays on Tampa's (failed) game-ending drive (Thank you, Jon Jones). Tackling was still a problem on several plays.
... DL was getting blocked out to open big holes for Martin in the first half, but tightened that up a bit in the second.

Offense
... Brady missed a couple of throws, but Cooks dropped two and White dropped one. The OL (and other blockers) allowed one jailbreak that resulted in the Brady fumble. However, on at least four plays that I saw, Brady got hit because he had to wait for someone to get open. At least one of the other two sacks was a coverage sack, and Brady ran twice because everyone was covered.

Overall, Brady dropped back at least 47 times. He tucked and ran twice, got sacked three times, had two completions to Amendola negated by offensive penalties (including a cheezy OPI on Amendola). Of his 40 official pass attempts, he threw one pick, threw one into the turf deliberately, had three dropped, and completed 30. Officially, he got hit 6 times after making the throw.

Gillislee and Lewis, on 19 combined carries, accounted for 104 of the Pats 113 rushing yards. However 31 of those 104 came on Lewis' breakout 31-yarder, leaving them with a 4.05 ypc on the other 18 carries. It seemed to me that the Pats rarely ran twice in succession and, when they did, the second attempt got stuffed more often than not. In their previous three games, the Tampa defense had allowed 20, 125 and 91 yards on the ground.

BTW, Lewis does seem to have regained quite a bit of his old burst and wiggle.

Subtracting Brady's two scrambles and Lewis' breakout, the Pats had 20 designed runs for 77 yards (3.85 ypa). And 47 dropbacks ultimately generated a 75% completion rate for 289 net yards (9.63 ypc) and a TD.

 

[stcjones]

I said the defense would have a big game and they did. You gotta admit though that Winston missed some throws. We caught some breaks

Caught ALOT of breaks last night....unreal....but a win is still a win even if it’s Ugly!!!

 

[PatsBoy12]

Brady, at least to my untrained eye, is fighting through some type of injury. Tonight was difficult for him. He's so great that he still went out there and performed. But he's definitely fighting through pain right now. Maybe I'm bordering a bit on hyperbole at this very point in time, but I don't know if he'll survive the season at this rate. That OL has been mostly bad and terribly inconsistent. Brady is taking far too many hits. I don't know how the man does it. I just wish he didn't have to at this point in his career.

Along those same lines, I think Nate is hurt. I've been critical of him going back to last season, but for the first time that I thought I could tell, I think he's playing through some pain as well. His play has left me afraid for Brady in every game and that will continue. He's been bad, but maybe it's not entirely his fault after all.

 

[Soul_Survivor88]

Really encouraged by this... would've been easy to throw him under the bus. Love this team!

 

[stcjones]

Why wasn't this called? I didn't see anyone close to where he was throwing it. Seemed like a safety to me.

Because it was us....seriously that was the SAME play that Brady got penalized for in the SB against Gints....just bullsh!t bias against this team and Brady

 

[Mack Herron]

Captain David Andrews, Ladies and Gentlemen:

 

[Soul_Survivor88]

Also, Chris Price brings some crucial perspective

 

[Hercules Rockefeller]

I wear protection when I bang your mom.

well, I was banging YOUR Mom the other night and she screamed out you ain't even her kid....something about a transient named Lauralene, a Fed Ex box and a month's supply of Huggies......

Guys guys I think we can all agree that you both bang each other's moms, and that fnord's is detail oriented with her comments whence engaging in the act.