Patriots brought in someone to teach them about millenials

[RobertWeathers]

labeling a whole generation is beyond stupid

Agreed.

I stated earlier I'm Gen Xer and I have a number of Millennials in my org.

Some I like very much and enjoy hanging out with them. Hardworking, level headed, mix of liberals and conservatives. Respectful. A little introverted and a tiny 'tude but overall they were raised right and are good people. I wish they were better team players but under the right situation they are collabortive.

Others....I cannot wait until they screw up so I can fire their asses. What a bunch of self-absorbed whiney *****es. Me. Me. Me .Me.

 

[Ring 6]

My son's middle school recently did away with the honor roll due in part to reducing anxiety and to prevent non-honor roll kids from feeling bad. I thought that was odd but maybe it is for the best. They still have it for high school.

I think we have created an odd dynamic.
We are shielding kids from competing literally saying it's unfair to the loser that a competition was held, then we set them loose in a competitive world.

On the other hand the naturally competitive kids end up obsessed with competing for grades, probably at an unhealthy level.

I think the 2 aspects are related.

 

[Ring 6]

Ageed.

I stated earlier I'm Gen Xer and I have a number of Millennials in my org.

Some I like very much and enjoy hanging out with them. Hardworking, level headed, mix of liberals and conservatives. Respectful. A little introverted and a tiny 'tude but overall they were raised right and are good people. I wish they were better team players but under the right situation they are collabortive.

Others....I cannot wait until they screw up so I can fire their asses. What a bunch of self-absorbed whiney *****es. Me. Me. Me .Me.

I imagine people your age have been saying pretty much the same thing for 200 years.

 

[yukon cornelius]

My son's middle school recently did away with the honor roll due in part to reducing anxiety and to prevent non-honor roll kids from feeling bad. I thought that was odd but maybe it is for the best. They still have it for high school.

as an educator & parent, i couldn't care less about honor roll as it has been traditionally used - it serves as a negative motivator for many, and is just a status issue for parents.......there are ways to do it better, though

"i'm not an honor roll student" in 6th grade quickly turns itself into a self-fulfilling prophecy for the rest of their academic career, so i can see the point


we are a standards based, customized learning type system - old conventions like honor roll don't mesh well with what we do......but we still do some of 'em just to keep parents happy haha

 

[BradyFTW!]

Don't let @Tunescribe get away with this.

Grunge changed the universe and was the last great seismic event in music history. It was awesome.

Except for metal, Led Zeppelin, The Stones, U2, The Police and a small handful of other bands like the Foo Fighters it blows anything from the 70s and 80's out of the water and its certainly better than the commercial crap we hear now.

We mostly hear commercial crap now because the music industry consolidated a ton in the last 20 years - all the labels and radio stations are owned by the same few companies, and they push all the same type of music that's hard to like. They were doing the same stuff in the 90s when they were pushing boy bands and crap, but it was easier to ignore then because at least there was good music on the radio too. But even the smaller labels that came up in the 90s and were pushing alternative music are now owned by one of about 5 companies. As a result you don't really find interesting music by going the traditional routes anymore, and that's especially true for grunge-type bands.

There's still a ton of really good music being made, you just probably need to find it in different ways now. And once you find a band you like you find that everything they ever performed is probably on Youtube, so that's cool. I grew up on Nirvana, Soundgarden and the Smashing Pumpkins, so I'm guessing our musical tastes have a fair amount in common, and I've got a pretty long list of contemporary bands that I enjoy the hell out of.

 

[chasa]

There's no I in denial.

But there is an I in pie.. as in Meat Pie, and as everyone knows the anagram of meat is team.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I imagine people your age have been saying pretty much the same thing for 200 years.

Probably.

 

[BradyFTW!]

I imagine people your age have been saying pretty much the same thing for 200 years.

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"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

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-Socrates

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[RobertWeathers]

We mostly hear commercial crap now because the music industry consolidated a ton in the last 20 years - all the labels and radio stations are owned by the same few companies, and they push all the same type of music that's hard to like. They were doing the same stuff in the 90s when they were pushing boy bands and crap, but it was easier to ignore then because at least there was good music on the radio too. But even the smaller labels that came up in the 90s and were pushing alternative music are now owned by one of about 5 companies. As a result you don't really find interesting music by going the traditional routes anymore, and that's especially true for grunge-type bands.

There's still a ton of really good music being made, you just probably need to find it in different ways now. And once you find a band you like you find that everything they ever performed is probably on Youtube, so that's cool. I grew up on Nirvana, Soundgarden and the Smashing Pumpkins, so I'm guessing our musical tastes have a fair amount in common, and I've got a pretty long list of contemporary bands that I enjoy the hell out of.

Clearly I have a very narrow view of music. I admit that. 99% of what I listen to is old school. As you say music that is my preferred genre is hard to find and I don't have the time to dig for it.

Like everyone else in the 80s and early 90s when I was in HS or college to get my music or to learn I'd watch MTV, listen to the radio, hang out with other kids or head over to the local funky music store. I dont have that kind of time anymore. Because of my lifestyle, I certainly have become turned off with the mainstream junk and down on music because I really dont have the time to find the good stuff.

 

[Tunescribe]

Grunge changed the universe and was the last great seismic event in music history.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I dont get the punchline

 

[yukon cornelius]

Clearly I have a very narrow view of music. I admit that. 99% of what I listen to is old school. As you say music that is my preferred genre is hard to find and I don't have the time to dig for it.

Like everyone else in the 80s and early 90s when I was in HS or college to get my music or to learn I'd watch MTV, listen to the radio, hang out with other kids or head over to the local funky music store. I dont have that kind of time anymore. Because of my lifestyle, I certainly have become turned off with the mainstream junk and down on music because I really dont have the time to find the good stuff.

if you don't listen to the Drive by Truckers, do so....immediately

I'd suggest starting with Decoration Day and expanding forward and backward in time from there

 

[Stumpy]

Yeah I love when an early 30 something starts railing on about millennials and I break the news to them. Invariably the cellphone comes out, defiantly I might add, followed by 5 minutes of furious searching then the inevitable look of disappointment sets in.

Hahaha so true. I'm 35 and on the older side of being a Millennial. They usually say 20-35 year olds, or born 82-97.
There may be a ton of snowflakes, but there are still stronger types, conservative, traditional types who believe in hard work and family.
I've read the next generation are showing tendencies of swinging back away from being crybabies because they see how much Millennials are made fun of.
With a wife who about to give birth, trust me, strength of mind will not die.

 

[n1997y]

The anti millennial propaganda is a conspiracy to suppress their wages.

as are their performance reviews

 

[n1997y]

Just as an FYI, no one has a right to be on your lawn. Lawns aren't public propert. Lawns should never be shared. So the right thing to do when someone's on it is to tell them to get off your lawn

unless you hired them to mow it for you. or they asked and you gave permission.

 

[n1997y]

Wow! When I went to High School, I was assigned a bully right after I was assigned a homeroom teacher.

you kids!
when I was in school the bullies volunteered, no need for assignment.

 

[PatriotsReign]

you kids!
when I was in school the bullies volunteered, no need for assignment.

I never encountered any bullies.

How can anyone disagree with my account of my life? Maybe Observer believes he knew me?

 

[n1997y]

...
we are a standards based, customized learning type system ...

That makes perfect sense.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Hahaha so true. I'm 35 and on the older side of being a Millennial. They usually say 20-35 year olds, or born 82-97.
There may be a ton of snowflakes, but there are still stronger types, conservative, traditional types who believe in hard work and family.
I've read the next generation are showing tendencies of swinging back away from being crybabies because they see how much Millennials are made fun of.
With a wife who about to give birth, trust me, strength of mind will not die.

Life requires people to deal with and conquer adversity. If you can't do that, you will have a hard time being successful.

Its really a good discussion. Personally I don't totally buy the bad rap Millennials have received. As I said earlier I know some I'm proud of. Others I want to kill (figuratively).

I just plucked this about Gen Xrs.

They reject rules, mistrust institutions and are individualistic. According to American Bar, "Even more so than Baby Boomers, members of Generation X dislike authority and rigid work requirements. An effective mentoring relationship with them must be as hands-off as possible."

I've bolded my own traits and perferences.

I know Millennials who are team oriented, work hard, reasonably patient for their age and respectful so again, generational labeling is a bit unfair.

 

[n1997y]

Clearly I have a very narrow view of music. I admit that. 99% of what I listen to is old school. ...

Renaissance, or Baroque?

I like both, but I'm more partial to jazz, and classical rock.