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it's week 1

I've seen worse in week 1

The fact that Jordan Richards played 2/3 of the defensive downs proves that this was some kind of extension to the preseason

onto N.O.
 
Trey Flowers led all EDGE rushers this weekend with 6 hurries.
Adam Butler led all DTs this weekend with 4 hurries.

So Flowers and Butler alone forced hurries on a third of Smith's dropbacks

B-b-b-but all the doom and gloomers said the pass rush was non-exsistant
 
I'll can tell you with a bit more certainty that this board is full of bad fans
 
Did we ever get that video evidence of this? I am waiting very patiently.

No. Brady looked fine. They just need to find out how they are going to replace Edelman's production at some level. I think those who suggest it will be from the RB crew are correct. Anyways despite the loss there are a lot of positives to take away from the game in all 3 phases.

Defensively

- Flowers, A Butler and Wise are solid. Branch and Brown looked good but were doubled teamed a lot.
- Gilmore, Butler and McCourty are solid. Gilmore plays with an edge and can get a bit chippy. Communication will get better.
- LB imo needs some work but I think that will work itself out. I wonder if Marsh will see some DE/LB time in the Star. Langi wasn't available because of injury etc.. etc.. Would Patricia have used more of a 4-3 look if they had to play the game again?
- The hate on Richards is overblown imo. He did give up a TD but I disagree with the lack of athleticism criticism. He may be too small to play against bigger offensive packages (That's just a thought I have atm) He had tight coverage on the same RB in other plays. He is obviously still learning.

Offensively

- Brady was 6 of 7 when targeting Amendola. He targeted Dola deep, right and left so Brady's accuracy with a receiver he has continuity with is just fine.
- Brady threw a pass that traveled about 57 yards in the air to Cooks. It didn't look like he gave it all he had either. Anyways that should kill the "weak arm" BS. I suspect we'll see a lot more of those deep passes throughout the season especially once the figure out the slot/short route situation.
- Cooks is a gamer. But I don't think he's comfortable with the offense yet. He also doesn't always get the separation some think he does during shorter routes. But the dude is a legitimate threat.
- Offensive line looked good and gave Brady a lot of time when KC rushed 3. After Amendola when out they rushed 4 + and the O line starting having trouble giving Brady less time. Amendola's injury was huge and hurt the game plan imo.
- 4th and 1's. Big plays in the game. I'm glad they happened in game 1 and not game 16. Have to credit KC's Berry on the first one. He made a great play. Anyways Reiss had a great tweet that showed how the O line's alignment might have been a part of the problem which will be fixed. Not worried.

Note: One thing I noticed during the re-watching was how much separation Amendola could get on a short route. He has an Edelman like ankle breaking juke move that creates good separation at the top of his routes. I haven't seen that from Burkhead or Cooks yet which is why I think Lewis and possibly Foster will address some of the Edelman void. (I'm not an expert on roster moves so am not sure of what it would take to get Foster on the 53. Just saying I've seen the ability of getting the "Edelman" like separation from both Lewis and Foster)

Special teams -

A bunch of new bodies against a speedy KC return threat. A lot of hang time traded for some field position loss. No big plays = Success.
(I didn't pay too much attention to special teams so I'm just basically generalizing)



I'm going to put together a few clips for review. If you or anyone is interested in seeing anything else please let me know.

1. All of Brady's passes from the game. It may be somewhat boring because I think I'm going to use the no audio Coaching view.
2. A few examples of KC's offensive formations. Maybe we can discuss the breakdowns in the big plays.

Disclaimer: Despite what some might think I am not a member of the Patriots Coaching staff phantomly posting game day analysis on a Patsfan site and therefore my opinions are all open for discussion.
 
Devin Taylor's a guy that still out there. I wish we gave him a look. Also I would prefer Hightower back in the middle.
 
I'm going to put together a few clips for review. If you or anyone is interested in seeing anything else please let me know.

Dont know if you already planned to do it anyway but make it a separate "video review week1" thread or so.. this way others can contribute with videos, gifs or whatever content of their own.

There are so man knowledgeable people here and those that dont understand the game yet can certainly learn from the discussion inside.

Maybe education is the way to combat hot takes and general silliness.
 
Not sure how you saw no fight.

Okay so you must be the only person on the planet that wasn't alarmed that they gave up at the end on defense and offense. Specifically the last rushing TD and then Brady getting sacked twice in a row and not putting up much of a fight.
 
No. Brady looked fine. They just need to find out how they are going to replace Edelman's production at some level. I think those who suggest it will be from the RB crew are correct. Anyways despite the loss there are a lot of positives to take away from the game in all 3 phases.

Defensively

- Flowers, A Butler and Wise are solid. Branch and Brown looked good but were doubled teamed a lot.
- Gilmore, Butler and McCourty are solid. Gilmore plays with an edge and can get a bit chippy. Communication will get better.
- LB imo needs some work but I think that will work itself out. I wonder if Marsh will see some DE/LB time in the Star. Langi wasn't available because of injury etc.. etc.. Would Patricia have used more of a 4-3 look if they had to play the game again?
- The hate on Richards is overblown imo. He did give up a TD but I disagree with the lack of athleticism criticism. He may be too small to play against bigger offensive packages (That's just a thought I have atm) He had tight coverage on the same RB in other plays. He is obviously still learning.

Offensively

- Brady was 6 of 7 when targeting Amendola. He targeted Dola deep, right and left so Brady's accuracy with a receiver he has continuity with is just fine.
- Brady threw a pass that traveled about 57 yards in the air to Cooks. It didn't look like he gave it all he had either. Anyways that should kill the "weak arm" BS. I suspect we'll see a lot more of those deep passes throughout the season especially once the figure out the slot/short route situation.
- Cooks is a gamer. But I don't think he's comfortable with the offense yet. He also doesn't always get the separation some think he does during shorter routes. But the dude is a legitimate threat.
- Offensive line looked good and gave Brady a lot of time when KC rushed 3. After Amendola when out they rushed 4 + and the O line starting having trouble giving Brady less time. Amendola's injury was huge and hurt the game plan imo.
- 4th and 1's. Big plays in the game. I'm glad they happened in game 1 and not game 16. Have to credit KC's Berry on the first one. He made a great play. Anyways Reiss had a great tweet that showed how the O line's alignment might have been a part of the problem which will be fixed. Not worried.

Note: One thing I noticed during the re-watching was how much separation Amendola could get on a short route. He has an Edelman like ankle breaking juke move that creates good separation at the top of his routes. I haven't seen that from Burkhead or Cooks yet which is why I think Lewis and possibly Foster will address some of the Edelman void. (I'm not an expert on roster moves so am not sure of what it would take to get Foster on the 53. Just saying I've seen the ability of getting the "Edelman" like separation from both Lewis and Foster)

Special teams -

A bunch of new bodies against a speedy KC return threat. A lot of hang time traded for some field position loss. No big plays = Success.
(I didn't pay too much attention to special teams so I'm just basically generalizing)



I'm going to put together a few clips for review. If you or anyone is interested in seeing anything else please let me know.

1. All of Brady's passes from the game. It may be somewhat boring because I think I'm going to use the no audio Coaching view.
2. A few examples of KC's offensive formations. Maybe we can discuss the breakdowns in the big plays.

Disclaimer: Despite what some might think I am not a member of the Patriots Coaching staff phantomly posting game day analysis on a Patsfan site and therefore my opinions are all open for discussion.
Dont know if you already planned to do it anyway but make it a separate "video review week1" thread or so.. this way others can contribute with videos, gifs or whatever content of their own.

There are so man knowledgeable people here and those that dont understand the game yet can certainly learn from the discussion inside.

Maybe education is the way to combat hot takes and general silliness.


Separate Re-watch thread would certainly make sense every week. Could be a nice mirror to the game thread and post game hot takes (that most of us have..;))
 
Oh yay. Only one of those years was a SB year.

Not really good evidence.

Yeah sorry I'm not going to piss and moan about one loss. The OP demonstrated why.
 
Okay so you must be the only person on the planet that wasn't alarmed that they gave up at the end on defense and offense. Specifically the last rushing TD and then Brady getting sacked twice in a row and not putting up much of a fight.
I don't believe that bad plays only happen when you give up.
 
That's fine but again, people, need to understand it's about how they lost.

That's why this week is a critical week. A loss and, yes very bad things are coming.

NE had a 20-10 lead on Miami only to be outscored 23-0 in the second half. Didn't have much of an effect on the rest of their 2014 season.
 
NE had a 20-10 lead on Miami only to be outscored 23-0 in the second half. Didn't have much of an effect on the rest of their 2014 season.

My memory must be failing.

Did they win or lose that game?
 
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