Florio:Trading down less than 10 spots & adding a late rd draft pick that gets cut is a BLUNDER

[Nunchucks]

It didn't work out. risk versus reward. This time Belichick lost his bet.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

I'll take this blunder over buffalos drafting Ragland round 2 then shipping him off for a 4th rounder. Or trading 2 1s for Watkins who is now with LA

 

[Ring 6]

It's a calculated risk that is based on probability and economics.

Belichick understood that the player (Kona Ealy) had issues with his performance and Carolina had depth at that position. Thus, it turned into a win for them because they essentially got to move up for free (knowing he had limited reps/??? on their team).

BB essentially got to kick the tires on a player who could play a role, provided he lived up to his ability and could take on the team dynamic. It's worked well sometimes and not on others. BB didn't have to wait for the Panthers to cut him and got prolonged exposure (not to mention exclusivity) to try to integrate/assess him with our system.

BB understands that not all draftees make it to a team and you're luck to get 50% to contribute. Thus he took 2 players for the price of 1 player and 10 positions in the draft. When it's 50/50 chance to make it, doubling your chances makes too much sense to give it a try.

Players underperform for many different reasons.

Some are on them. We seem to forget that being a professional athlete is a lifestyle and these are largely people in their 20s. Many people in their 20s are out doing things that aren't good for them. We must assume that includes athletes.
No matter the line of work there are different people who have different levels of commitment to success.
These issues can sometimes be corrected by a change of scenery, leadership, management but many times not.
Ealy may have a level of commitment that can keep him in the league but isn't what the patriots want.
He could be a me guy and on many teams that is fine.

 

[The Brandon Five]

Not sure this counts as a blunder as opposed to things like taking a sack in the Super Bowl that puts you out of field-goal range, or going for it on 4th and 13 when you are in field goal range...in the Super Bowl. Those are things we might consider "blunders". This? Please.

 

[chris_in_sunnyvale]

"Bill Belichick isn't perfect. News at 11."

Regards,
Chris

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

Players underperform for many different reasons.

Some are on them. We seem to forget that being a professional athlete is a lifestyle and these are largely people in their 20s. Many people in their 20s are out doing things that aren't good for them. We must assume that includes athletes.
No matter the line of work there are different people who have different levels of commitment to success.
These issues can sometimes be corrected by a change of scenery, leadership, management but many times not.
Ealy may have a level of commitment that can keep him in the league but isn't what the patriots want.
He could be a me guy and on many teams that is fine.

Feels like you are arguing with me or are you just providing additional content/commentary?

 

[Ring 6]

Feels like you are arguing with me or are you just providing additional content/commentary?

Adding to

 

[Pessimistic Pete]

I don't get this topic, are you saying it wasn't a blunder?

It was a blunder....the wrong move.

Was it a disaster? Nope. Did it "cost" them that much? Nope. Was it low risk? Yes. Would they still do it over again if they could? Yes.

 

[Bill Lee]

I don't get this topic, are you saying it wasn't a blunder?

It was a blunder....the wrong move.

Was it a disaster? Nope. Did it "cost" them that much? Nope. Was it low risk? Yes. Would they still do it over again if they could? Yes.

dictionary.com says:

blunder

[bluhn-der]

noun
1.
a gross, stupid, or careless mistake.

Doesn't rise to the level of blunder.

Does rise to the level of click bait.

 

[sean10mm]

Must every single minor slight against the Pats get its own thread?

The answer is yes, because deep down we're a neurotic bunch.

The truth is we should all just relax and enjoy the end of the ride, because all the people sniping at the Patriots are just fighting a futile rear-guard action against the verdict of history itself.

And history isn't written by the losers, it's written by the winners. In this case the five time, five time, five time, five time, FIVE TIME SUPER BOWL CHAMPION NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS.

 

[n1997y]

The answer is yes, because deep down we're a neurotic bunch.

The truth is we should all just relax and enjoy the end of the ride, because all the people sniping at the Patriots are just fighting a futile rear-guard action against the verdict of history itself.

And history isn't written by the losers, it's written by the winners. In this case the five time, five time, five time, five time, FIVE TIME SUPER BOWL CHAMPION NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS.

Five time (and counting) champion Patriots

 

[BTTA]

Unless Florio has a unique relationship with his employer here, he doesn't write his own headlines.

 

[Bill Lee]

Unless Florio has a unique relationship with his employer here, he doesn't write his own headlines.

Profootballtalk.com - Wikipedia tells us Florio is the founder, owner, primary editor and primary contributor of the site, so...

 

[BTTA]

Profootballtalk.com - Wikipedia tells us Florio is the founder, owner, primary editor and primary contributor of the site, so...

LOL, well then, the negotiations on these types of matters must be pretty entertaining.

 

[Biffins]

This trade was really no different than trading down a few picks and adding a 6th round pick. So essentially he is saying moving down a few spots and adding a 6th round pick that gets cut before the season is a blunder

Did you read the article?

 

[Ring 6]

dictionary.com says:


Doesn't rise to the level of blunder.

Does rise to the level of click bait.

Major issue here. Posters like to misuse words that sound stronger than not good.
Was it a bad trade? Of course. Was it stupid, a blunder, moronic, idiotic, predictable, negligent, etc etc? Of course not.

 

[Bill Lee]

Major issue here. Posters like to misuse words that sound stronger than not good.

Not just here. They should stop. You should say blunder when you mean blunder instead of not good, otherwise you look like a tool, especially when you put it in CAPITAL LETTERS.

 

[Huckleberry1]

I'm upset

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

Sure Ted Williams hit .400 but he deserves criticism for the .600 he didn't connect with.

 

[Rob0729]

You see the difference between Belichick and other GMs/head coaches is that he isn't afraid to cut bait. Most other teams would have kept Ealy even though they don't want him because they don't want to look like they made a mistake. Belichick just cuts his losses.

But the Pats traded down 8 spots in a part of the draft that people thought was a glut of talent and not much difference between the player they could have gotten with their second round and the player they drafted in the third round. It isn't like they gave up a third round pick for him.