Worrisome Gilmore comments

[Joker]

A rats fart is more newsworthy

 

[Betterthanmost]

It is not a big deal but I trust BB will quickly use him as an example during first team meeting back. Do your job does not mean spouting off team's training habits. I think Pot Roast was also used as an example for something quite benign than this.

 

[K. Dog]

I think Pot Roast was also used as an example for something quite benign than this.

I don't remember the Pot Roast story, but there was a player who was criticized for a similar incident. This player just told the press that some other Patriots player was doing well in OTAs. He got harshly criticized by Belichick just for saying that.

 

[hornetfb85]

 

[NG Pats Fan]

This is the way some posters on this forum think

"If you're considered talented/high priced, you must be a locker room cancer who ruins team chemistry"

 

[RobertWeathers]

Marine buddy of mine said they ran BS in a continuous loop in Guantanamo for Al-Queda.

 

[patman12]

Those Gilmore comments have me running for cover. Oh wait, I don't give a sh*t what he said.

 

[bbobbo]

I don't remember the Pot Roast story, but there was a player who was criticized for a similar incident. This player just told the press that some other Patriots player was doing well in OTAs. He got harshly criticized by Belichick just for saying that.

it was pot roast:

“You get coached up every day on how to talk to the media,” Knighton said. “One time, I did an interview and I gave a guy credit. I thought I was doing the right thing by digging up my teammate and saying he was going to have a great year. We got in a team meeting and [Bill Belichick] called me out, basically said to me, ‘You’re not an expert, you’re not a D-line expert, we don’t need you evaluating guys.’

Knighton’s time in New England included plenty of direction on how to deal with the media
.

 

[TheFlyingWedge]

These are the dog days of summah...

 

[K. Dog]

it was pot roast:



Knighton’s time in New England included plenty of direction on how to deal with the media
.

Thanks for finding that! I couldn't remember. Coincidentally, your link is to a Florio story.

 

[supafly]

Florio doesn't say the Patriots are evading the rules, he just points out that the tempo and intensity clauses in the CBA for off-season workouts are ambiguous.

Florio's been stirring the pot a lot, lately. His call for attention that Brady did not come forth and throw his wife under the bus by disputing Gisele's concussion statement was pathetic. His long-winded article about Gronk's "racist" comments at the David Ortiz roast was even dumber. Yesterday's insinuation that the CBA rules about providing an "environment conducive to learning" are somehow being pushed to the limit due to practicing against an up tempo offense were basically the icing on the cake of stupidity. Just the suggestion of ambiguity is ridiculous. Our own team runs an up tempo offense at times, as does any team in certain situations.

As a matter of fact, aside from the deflategate saga, which anyone with a brain knew was ********, he's been known to be overly critical of Belichick and the ways of the team on a pretty consistent basis.

 

[Jackson 2]

Gilmore was quoted in a Mike Florio piece as giving unusually detailed information about practices - including which offenses the defense was preparing against! (no huddles).

Stephon Gilmore says Patriots defense has been focusing on no-huddle offense .

Florio then used this information (to the extent one trusts Florio of course - I haven't checked the primary source) to insinuate the Patriots are evading rules on off-season practices.

I've mentioned before on this forum that several of the Patriots off-season acquisitions do not seem to me to fit the pattern of their most successful acquisitions in off-season years. I was particularly concerned about the effect on team chemistry of bringing in some of these high-priced people.

If the Florio article is accurate, this is a red flag that underscores my previous comments.

There is no reason for Gilmore to give any kind of detailed information to the press that I can see except for self-promotion. And it already hurts the team - not a lot necessarily, but it does.

The problem with having even one or two players who put self-promotion ahead of team interests is that it puts the quieter players in a shadow. And when the self-promoting player hasn't even played a down for the Patriots and yet is one of the highest paid players on the team, I think it sows the seeds for the kind of dysfunction we love to mock in teams like the Steelers and Jets. Players start to play for the press and the fans, not for the team.

Even if nothing comes of this, I don't see how to spin this in a way that looks promising. Surely players are instructed about talking to the press. If so, is Gilmore saying team rules just don't apply to him, since his contract is so big? Is Gilmore trying to give a message to Belichick that practices are too difficult and if they aren't made easier that he will complain to the media?

It is true that Patriots players can talk to the press about non-substantive matters - amusing anecdotes and the like. But to say that the practices are geared to a specific offense obviously crosses the line. The fact that Gilmore cannot see this, or sees it and chooses to ignore it, is an issue - or is it?

Maybe I'm making something out of nothing. Let's hope so.

No disrespect intended, but it seems possible to me that you could use a hobby...

 

[DarrylS]

Is it me or does the off season become sillier every year??

Next Florio will get an erection when he hears they are doing windsprints at the end of practice..

TC is 24 days away... thank goodness.

 

[Gwedd]

 

[Jackson 2]

Florio's been stirring the pot a lot, lately. His call for attention that Brady did not come forth and throw his wife under the bus by disputing Gisele's concussion statement was pathetic. His long-winded article about Gronk's "racist" comments at the David Ortiz roast was even dumber. Yesterday's insinuation that the CBA rules about providing an "environment conducive to learning" are somehow being pushed to the limit due to practicing against an up tempo offense were basically the icing on the cake of stupidity. Just the suggestion of ambiguity is ridiculous. Our own team runs an up tempo offense at times, as does any team in certain situations.

As a matter of fact, aside from the deflategate saga, which anyone with a brain knew was ********, he's been known to be overly critical of Belichick and the ways of the team on a pretty consistent basis.

Yes, I think you're right. Pre-DG, Florio was very consistently anti-Pats/BB. I've always thought that his stance on DG was more anti-Goodell, rather than pro-NE.

 

[qbno12]

 

[PatriotsReign]

Gilmore was quoted in a Mike Florio piece as giving unusually detailed information about practices - including which offenses the defense was preparing against! (no huddles).

Stephon Gilmore says Patriots defense has been focusing on no-huddle offense .

Florio then used this information (to the extent one trusts Florio of course - I haven't checked the primary source) to insinuate the Patriots are evading rules on off-season practices.

I've mentioned before on this forum that several of the Patriots off-season acquisitions do not seem to me to fit the pattern of their most successful acquisitions in off-season years. I was particularly concerned about the effect on team chemistry of bringing in some of these high-priced people.

If the Florio article is accurate, this is a red flag that underscores my previous comments.

There is no reason for Gilmore to give any kind of detailed information to the press that I can see except for self-promotion. And it already hurts the team - not a lot necessarily, but it does.

The problem with having even one or two players who put self-promotion ahead of team interests is that it puts the quieter players in a shadow. And when the self-promoting player hasn't even played a down for the Patriots and yet is one of the highest paid players on the team, I think it sows the seeds for the kind of dysfunction we love to mock in teams like the Steelers and Jets. Players start to play for the press and the fans, not for the team.

Even if nothing comes of this, I don't see how to spin this in a way that looks promising. Surely players are instructed about talking to the press. If so, is Gilmore saying team rules just don't apply to him, since his contract is so big? Is Gilmore trying to give a message to Belichick that practices are too difficult and if they aren't made easier that he will complain to the media?

It is true that Patriots players can talk to the press about non-substantive matters - amusing anecdotes and the like. But to say that the practices are geared to a specific offense obviously crosses the line. The fact that Gilmore cannot see this, or sees it and chooses to ignore it, is an issue - or is it?

Maybe I'm making something out of nothing. Let's hope so.

Honestly, who gives a poop?

Do people actually worry about stuff on our Patriots 24/7?

I don't even worry DURING the season any more.

 

[SlowGettingUp]

“The intensity and tempo of drills should be at a level conducive to learning, with player safety as the highest priority, and not at a level where one player is in a physical contest with another player.”

They just don't want players beating each other up. Running on and off the field quickly whenever you are supposed to do so doesn't count.

 

[1960Pats]

Those Gilmore comments have me running for cover. Oh wait, I don't give a sh*t what he said.

Most of us care about what he does on the field and not what he says.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

I don't think that practicing against no huddle is somehow a closely guarded national secret.

Well look who is president....soooooo