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1 thing about our reaction (without proof) to the not guilty finding. Some here feel they have enough evidence and know better than the jury.

I don't follow these cases that closely, but are u sure? The reason I say that is that if there is somebody else guilty of these crimes still on the street, and some DA just wanted a case closed for career purposes, what better patsy than a guy already convicted?

He was found not guilty of murder in the first degree in the double murder (but guilty in the Lloyd murder), but his presence and indeed involvement in the double murder was never in question. The 'not guilty' was basically the jury determining that the evidence was not sufficient to prove that Hernandez was the one who pulled the trigger that night as opposed to his friend Bradley, who was the prosecution's chief witness in the trial, and nothing else.

I have complicated feelings about this whole thing because I think life without parole is a horrible sentence, perhaps even worse than capital punishment given our inhuman system of incarceration. I don't feel particularly sorry for Aaron Hernandez, who was guilty of at least one cold-blooded murder and at least partly culpable for at least two more... but I wish that, in the first place, his life had gone some other way and, second, even after he had committed truly heinous acts, that he had options with the rest of his God-given life that were not suicide.
 
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If there was such a thing as true journalistic accountability, Felger would have lost his job years ago.

The only reason he has a job in this town is because people listen to him. Tell as many people as you possibly can. If his ratings on the radio and TV tank he'll be out of here and back to Wisconsin where he really wants to be.
 
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Was thinking the same thing. AH was a trophy on the resume and would not look good if he eventually walked away from three murder raps.

Again, he's not going to walk away from three murder raps. The State just had to prove that he killed Lloyd. The reason they put forth is irrelevant.
 
Now every time someone lines up a PAT and there's a zealot with a "john 3:16" sign somebody's going to tweet a conspiracy theory (hopefully not an elected official...)
 
It's obvious...Brady snuck in AH's cell and murdered him.Kurt Warner got the scoop straight from the big Guy upstairs and is now partnering with Mort the wart on a tell all expose'.
The Goodelloloid is lining up 50 million bucks in legal fees to take this case all the way to the Supreme Mara Court.v
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Now every time someone lines up a PAT and there's a zealot with a "john 3:16" sign somebody's going to tweet a conspiracy theory (hopefully not an elected official...)

Sign Tebow.

 
It's obvious...Brady snuck in AH's cell and murdered him.Kurt Warner got the scoop straight from the big Guy upstairs and is now partnering with Mort the wart on a tell all expose'.
The Goodelloloid is lining up 50 million bucks in legal fees to take this case all the way to the Supreme Mara Court.v
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Your Name game abilities are HOF worthy.

Mort the Wart
Goodelloloid
Supreme Mara Court
 


Clearly it's none of our business and it's probably right that we don't know, but I am curious about the contents of the three letters. Since reading the article about his brother in SI (Aaron Hernandez’s brother retraces NFL star's path to murder if anyone's interested), I've found myself caring a lot more about the family angle than I did before, and kinda hope at least one was addressed to them and might help them get some closure. Never really occurred to me previously to consider how they've taken all of this, but it hit me after reading that article, and especially now in light of the past few days.
 
Not that I'm attempting to make excuses for anyone, but I'm a big believer in the idea that it takes some people longer to mature, particularly younger males. I don't have any statistics or studies on hand at the moment, but I think there's a lot to suggest a drop in criminal activity once males reach their 30s. Unfortunately, getting those kids through their teens and twenties has proven to be difficult for many.

It sounds like he got caught up in the make believe world of thinking that "street cred" is more important than real life, particularly under the circumstances that you provided where he didn't even have a bad childhood. The whole situation is a terrible shame for all involved.

In the field of psychology, its widely believed that males are in the "adolescent" stage until age 25-30... and when you factor in our more militarized form of policing compared to 20+ years ago, combined with social media, etc.. you don't get as many chances to screw up as you did back in the day either
 
Unfortunately, the AH suicide will not be put to rest for a long time, as conspiracy trumps common sense..

Souza Baranowski by its virtue of being high security is loaded with CCTV's, probably not in every cell, but in every "common area" so they could easily determine if anyone entered his cell after 8:00 PM.. otoh there will be the local idiocy who will spout this conspiracy crap to make a cheap buck.

The idea that someone did it to him is preposterous, as not only the CCTV would pick up anyone entering his cell, but there would have to be some sign of a struggle or defensive wounds on AH.. to put him down would require a lot of folks and a lot of mayhem..

Will be interesting to hear if his wife speaks to investigators as it was reported that he spoke to her on Sunday night before he entered his cell for the last time..

It is folly to say that he was happy on Friday and could not kill himself on early Wednesday morning, he may have shown some outward joy over the NG verdict.. but coming back to the Easter Weekend late Friday he may have missed some sort of evaluation regarding his state of mind, this is a very impulsive man, and what he did never made much sense..
 
For me, the most ridiculous development involves the recent suggestions that because Hernandez scrawled a biblical verse notation on his forehead and left a Bible nearby, that he experienced a religious epiphany before offing himself. As my old man told me decades ago, I may have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.
 
I'm not buying it. AH was a psychopath. By definition he is incapable of remorse. I wouldnt be surprised to learn he was murdered.

That's an unusually forgiving position for you to take, RW, that he had no control over his actions and his bad deeds were due to mental illness.
 
Very sad situation.

It's still crazy, he just signed a huge contract, was the most versatile TE in the game. As a football player on the field, his role just seemed to get bigger and bigger. He was a TE who was consistently split out wide, used in the backfield (he even had some rushes) and a great compliment to Gronk (who he seemed to get really get along with). So many what ifs.
 
That's an unusually forgiving position for you to take, RW, that he had no control over his actions and his bad deeds were due to mental illness.

I'm not that forgiving. Let me explain.

Live is about impulse control, dealing with life events that shape our behavior and choices.

There have been a number of scientific studies that have concluded that a vast majority of people who have murdered do suffer from some kind of chemical imbalance or malformed parts of their brain. With that said, as humans we all have some kind of chemical imbalance or have not developed 100% perfectly. It is that which shapes our behavior, motor skills, etc.

The studies go on to say that sometimes life events serve as catalysts which then send the person down the path of sociopathic or psychopathic behavior.

Some people poo-poo the studies. I think there is some validity to them.

I think in AHs case, while he deserves to be locked up or face he death penalty because he is a threat to society, I think its important to understand why he is who is is (or was)
 
Wait... how can they try a millennial as an adult?

As a millenial I laughed pretty hard at this lol

I'm right on the edge as a millenial tho at 34.. I think the oldest millenial is 35
 
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