Jason La Canfora: Revis return to Patriots looking increasingly likely

[RelocatedPatFan]

I'd say give the tire a kick, but he'd have to kick the (spare) tire first.

 

[patfanken]

Strictly speaking on WHY Revis is a good fit on the field and acknowledging this is all speculation. Here are the things that would have to happen on the Pats side for Revis to come back.

1. They would have to be convinced that the REASON Revis is playing is to reestablish his legacy in the NFL and NOT for the money. The only way I think he can do that is to play for the $6MM. In other words sign for the league minimum and let the Jets pay the rest. THAT would prove to a team he is motivated by all the right reasons.

2. Butler leaves. It makes much less sense to bring Revis back on a team that includes Butler. It would slow down the development of the existing CB's the Pats have, while on the other hand it would even deepen the depth of the group.

3. He indicates that he really wants to come HERE. The fact is he knows how hard they work here. There are several teams, like the Steelers for instance, who have a greater need of a CB AND might be willing to play more for him to come "home". Plus there are other teams who need quality CB's even more. The fact is he doesn't have to come here to reestablish his legacy. He can go anywhere. He just has to play much better.

4. He convinces the staff that he will be a willing tackler again. We all know how much BB values this skill in his DB's. I felt he did a good job back in 2014, but his effort in 2016 really was bad at times.

Anyone can connect the dots and see that Revis to NE makes sense IF Butler leaves. He knows the system and coaching staff. He would be protected better as his skills erode. He would be put in positions to succeed rather than fail. AND he knows he will be playing footbal at least deep into January

I watch him closely in TC in 2014. His ability to read routes and stay with receivers in short areas really WAS amazing. I watched him literally make his cuts BEFORE the receiver made his. That kind of MENTAL ability alone would make him effective under certain conditions.

I could give a crap about whether he did or did not make some remark 2 years ago that we don't like. That was then, this is now. They can deal with it. This is strictly a football decision. But one that can only happen if those 4 conditions are met.

So in the end there is NOTHING likely about this deal. There are only possibilities, conjecture, and speculation. (along with the media click baiting and trolling that we have to deal with these days )

 

[ivanvamp]

Seriously. Imagine him being a great player for the Jets for all those years. Joins the Patriots and wins a Super Bowl in one season. Goes back to the Jets on a huge contract after they tamper (and get a minimal fine, but still). They suck and cut him and he comes back to NE for another one season and they win another Super Bowl with him.

I mean, if that wouldn't make a Jets fan commit hari-kari, I don't know what would.

Other than signing Jay Cutler.

 

[zipster9]

People say he was not motivated last year. IF he was a professional, he would have played @ 100 percent. He was making a lot of $$ last year.

He was afraid of tackling.

Think Mack from the Browns. The team stinks, but Mack played to his max.

 

[Tuck]

Revis can **** right off as far as I'm concerned, the mealy mouthed snake

Revis can fuek a snake as far as Im concerned

 

[rads2005]

Not to sound like Trent Dilfer but "Revis just isn't good anymore" right?

Seems odd that there'd be any interest. He's too old/slow to be an effective corner, but we're already solid at safety too. I don't get it, but what do I know?

Excellent article here predicting Revis' decline based on his Patriots season:
Is Darrelle Revis Slowing Down? | PFF

but a good quote from an anonymous executive the LaCanfora article:
“We did our work on him. He can still play. He can cover. He doesn’t have that long speed anymore; he’s not going to cover a No. 1 receiver deep. But he can cover in tight spaces and he has great instincts. The film is not as bad as some would have you believe. He’s a perfect fit in that quarters scheme Belichick runs, and they have the kind of safeties who can help him out, too. We’re convinced he’s going back to New England. It just makes too much sense.”

 

[rads2005]

The other thing is, I remember Butler and the other corners at various points in the season saying how much they learned from Revis, not just in terms of his great technique but in how hard he competed on every play in every practice. It wouldn't hurt to have that around for Gilmore as he tries to make the next level as an elite CB1, Eric Rowe as he builds on his solid last half of last season with all his physical tools, and especially Cyrus Jones.

 

[DaBronxPats14]

Anybody hear that Revis was spotted at Logan Airport today?

 

[rads2005]

Strictly speaking on WHY Revis is a good fit on the field and acknowledging this is all speculation. Here are the things that would have to happen on the Pats side for Revis to come back.

1. They would have to be convinced that the REASON Revis is playing is to reestablish his legacy in the NFL and NOT for the money. The only way I think he can do that is to play for the $6MM. In other words sign for the league minimum and let the Jets pay the rest. THAT would prove to a team he is motivated by all the right reasons.

I kinda disagree with this statement. I do think all these elite guys have personal pride- Revis in particular was very recently thought of as the best corner in the game. It's gotta sting some to be written off as washed up and I believe reports he's working his butt off to try and re-establish himself.

However, I don't think Belichick or other execs care what your motivation is in how you perform, as long as you do so. If Revis is only playing for that one last 2-3 year contract, so be it as long as he plays well and plays hard. Execs have always known a player's contract year often leads to better performance and I don't think they care that that year's shining performance wasn't all about altruistic reasons.

 

[VectorPrime]

I believe Butler is gone so I really want Revis here.

 

[PP2]

I didn't watch him last year, but I suspect the slot is Revis' best chance. He might have lost a step or two of speed, but has he lost his quickness?

That's exactly my thinking- he'd replace Logan Ryan. He doesn't have top end speed anymore but can still flip his hips with the best of them.

 

[AtomicDawg]

I'll tell you this:

If the Pats sign him and then he is cut before September's roster cutdown deadline....and if it is for being:
1) Lazy and fat
2) Constantly burnt

I and others reserve the right to blast him and anyone else involved in this. Yes you gotta give guys a chance, but if he gets his chance and ****s it down the toilet.....it's eviceration time.

 

[PATSNUTme]

Don't want to see Whore24 in a Patriots uniform ever again. I don't care if we are down to 1 playable CB going in to the SB, no Whore24.

 

[Tuck]

Strictly speaking on WHY Revis is a good fit on the field and acknowledging this is all speculation. Here are the things that would have to happen on the Pats side for Revis to come back.

1. They would have to be convinced that the REASON Revis is playing is to reestablish his legacy in the NFL and NOT for the money. The only way I think he can do that is to play for the $6MM. In other words sign for the league minimum and let the Jets pay the rest. THAT would prove to a team he is motivated by all the right reasons.

2. Butler leaves. It makes much less sense to bring Revis back on a team that includes Butler. It would slow down the development of the existing CB's the Pats have, while on the other hand it would even deepen the depth of the group.

3. He indicates that he really wants to come HERE. The fact is he knows how hard they work here. There are several teams, like the Steelers for instance, who have a greater need of a CB AND might be willing to play more for him to come "home". Plus there are other teams who need quality CB's even more. The fact is he doesn't have to come here to reestablish his legacy. He can go anywhere. He just has to play much better.

4. He convinces the staff that he will be a willing tackler again. We all know how much BB values this skill in his DB's. I felt he did a good job back in 2014, but his effort in 2016 really was bad at times.

Anyone can connect the dots and see that Revis to NE makes sense IF Butler leaves. He knows the system and coaching staff. He would be protected better as his skills erode. He would be put in positions to succeed rather than fail. AND he knows he will be playing footbal at least deep into January

I watch him closely in TC in 2014. His ability to read routes and stay with receivers in short areas really WAS amazing. I watched him literally make his cuts BEFORE the receiver made his. That kind of MENTAL ability alone would make him effective under certain conditions.

I could give a crap about whether he did or did not make some remark 2 years ago that we don't like. That was then, this is now. They can deal with it. This is strictly a football decision. But one that can only happen if those 4 conditions are met.

So in the end there is NOTHING likely about this deal. There are only possibilities, conjecture, and speculation. (along with the media click baiting and trolling that we have to deal with these days )

I agree with all of your points except 2. Assuming he will play for the minimum he'll be competing for a roster spot against the last guy on the depth chart and whether he beats the guy out or not will come down to how well he plays.

I agree the upside of the younger player will factor into the decision but whether Butler is on the team or not shouldn't have much to do with it IMHO.

 

[scott99]

IF he signs, it better be for 1 mill at most, and he can be the fourth CB. Don't want him in the top 3, especially if Butler stays.

 

[Ring 6]

Strictly speaking on WHY Revis is a good fit on the field and acknowledging this is all speculation. Here are the things that would have to happen on the Pats side for Revis to come back.

1. They would have to be convinced that the REASON Revis is playing is to reestablish his legacy in the NFL and NOT for the money. The only way I think he can do that is to play for the $6MM. In other words sign for the league minimum and let the Jets pay the rest. THAT would prove to a team he is motivated by all the right reasons.

2. Butler leaves. It makes much less sense to bring Revis back on a team that includes Butler. It would slow down the development of the existing CB's the Pats have, while on the other hand it would even deepen the depth of the group.

3. He indicates that he really wants to come HERE. The fact is he knows how hard they work here. There are several teams, like the Steelers for instance, who have a greater need of a CB AND might be willing to play more for him to come "home". Plus there are other teams who need quality CB's even more. The fact is he doesn't have to come here to reestablish his legacy. He can go anywhere. He just has to play much better.

4. He convinces the staff that he will be a willing tackler again. We all know how much BB values this skill in his DB's. I felt he did a good job back in 2014, but his effort in 2016 really was bad at times.

Anyone can connect the dots and see that Revis to NE makes sense IF Butler leaves. He knows the system and coaching staff. He would be protected better as his skills erode. He would be put in positions to succeed rather than fail. AND he knows he will be playing footbal at least deep into January

I watch him closely in TC in 2014. His ability to read routes and stay with receivers in short areas really WAS amazing. I watched him literally make his cuts BEFORE the receiver made his. That kind of MENTAL ability alone would make him effective under certain conditions.

I could give a crap about whether he did or did not make some remark 2 years ago that we don't like. That was then, this is now. They can deal with it. This is strictly a football decision. But one that can only happen if those 4 conditions are met.

So in the end there is NOTHING likely about this deal. There are only possibilities, conjecture, and speculation. (along with the media click baiting and trolling that we have to deal with these days )

1) is difficult but given that I can't see anyone paying him more than 6 mill he wouldn't be here for the money since he would get the same from his couch.
2) disagree. If butler stays you have 3 top corners and we use 3 corners a lot. If Rowe or jones can earn playing time they will but to not bring in a player because you fear he will beat them out and take their playing time seems wrong.
3)at least in this case he knows what he would be getting himself into so if he decides to comes here this worry is settled.
4) more concerned about erosion of skill than effort. I think the effort followed the poor play and losing. He didn't want to be out there.

This is also why I expect him to not play for anyone this year.

 

[AtomicDawg]

Curious: who gets #24 out of Jones, Gilmore, and possibly Revis?

 

[DanishPatFan]

Well what BB thinks is all that matters, not you

haha i can't have an opinion then ? :-D what is the meaning of a fan forum then ;-)

 

[Dagg]

I dont get all the hate for Revis. To me he looked fat and slow and unmotivated last year, but as a Jest player might be hard to take winning seriously with that roster. We all love Randy but he dogged it with those lousy Raiders teams as well then came here and was lights out.

Is he the Revis of old no way but cmon he isnt garbage just yet. I do think if we keep Butler we dont need him but if we get Revis for a year and #11 pick I think that will work for me.

 

[scott99]

Anybody hear that Revis was spotted at Logan Airport today?

I saw this on Twitter.