Aaron Rodgers: Tom Brady is the GOAT

[Tony2046]

Yeah, I'm a big Rodgers fan, but that was one of the most overrated plays we'll ever hear about.

He's good and I'd rank as the next best QB in the league right now. But these mediots love to over polish his knob these days. How is a hail mary better than a surgical 8 play drive? More dramatic? sure. Better? Hell no. The reason he's tossing a hail mary is because he couldn't drive the ball down field to begin with.

I'll dub him the king of drama. The Drama King.

 

[Tony2046]

It's Best Thrower vs Best Quarterback. Old argument. TB12 orchestrated a comeback Rogers could not. Brady is the GOAT and the best right now.

I'm not giving him "best thrower". I would have prior to the SB comeback. Brady's throws in the fourth quarter were off the charts accurate. Brady yet again raised his game to another level. I just watched the fourth quarter again today. Ridiculous.

 

[nabwong]

It's Best Thrower vs Best Quarterback. Old argument. TB12 orchestrated a comeback Rogers could not. Brady is the GOAT and the best right now.

I concur. Brady himself admitted there are some throws he's seen Rodgers make that he couldn't because of athleticism. And Rodgers is acknowledging that there's more to QBing than just throwing, namely winning. All I see is two great qBs acknowledging each other. It's the fans that make it more than it is.

 

[TheBostonStraggler]

@TheBostonStraggler
I don't think they're targeting Rodgers, it's more like the rest of the world that hops on his u know what whenever he has a good game. BSPN is notorious for this. So when we hear it directly from Rodgers about who's the best, we want all his dk riders to hear it.

I mean for Gods sake they were comparing him to Jordan this year during a game.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

RayRay, fair enough and I see the point about this not being about AR. However, after spygate, deflategate and so many other things, shouldn't the shock be reserved for moments the media dbags don't act like dbags?
"Joe Buck asks Roger Goodell why he said independent investigation when the firm hired relies on NFL business"
ESPN says "Deflategate has so many inconsistencies and numerous demonstrably falsehoods propagated by the NFL"

Those would be moments to be shocked to the core about media dbags deciding to not be dbags . Saying AR is Jordan is a blatant exaggeration but AR is top tier enough to be given high praise albeit tempered praise.

 

[wolverinejoe80]

rodgers is great. brady is great. brady is the GOAT. rodgers is top 5 all time. /thread

 

[convertedpatsfan]

rodgers is great. brady is great. brady is the GOAT. rodgers is top 5 20 all time. /thread

Saw a typo in your post so fixed it for you.

I'm sorry, you need to go to (and win) more championships than Trent Dilfer before you're welcome in the top 5 discussion.

I'm not sure Rodgers qualifies for top 10 at this stage of his career. Not meant to be disrespectful, but there have been a lot of great QBs.

 

[RobertWeathers]

It's Best Thrower vs Best Quarterback. Old argument. TB12 orchestrated a comeback Rogers could not. Brady is the GOAT and the best right now.

AR is in the same class as Brady, Staubach, Montana etc. He's just not as good.

Marino, Favre and Jeff George are throwers

 

[mosslost]

Brady is the greatest of all-time and rightfully so, due to otherworldly accomplishments, particularly in winning statistics and has a series of historic heroic Super Bowls. Individual stats, he is no slouch either and is easily top-3 on a per game basis, even factoring for the era. His decision making is simply amazing. Simply put, he wins more than anyone else on any stage, and he has made statisticians who don't believe in "clutch" play rethink their beliefs.

That said, Aaron Rodgers plays the quarterback position right now better than anyone in NFL history. And if you don't think he can't read a defense and is all athleticism, you are a blind homer. You don't get a 1.6% career interception rate and 4:1 TD ratio by merely having athletic talent.

I hope Rodgers wins one or two more SBs because he should be ranked higher all-time than Manning and maybe even Montana. He hasn't exactly curled up into a fetal position in their playoff losses ala Manning, besides that one game against Seattle in the 2014 NFCCF. The more research I do on Montana and the 80s Niners, the less I think he is the clear number 2. I won't get into it all right now, but he basically played on all-pro teams, always had a top-3 defense, and backups came in and dominated in the same fashion when he was injured. Go check out profootballl reference and check out the stats of journeymen QBs when they played 3-4 games during a Montana injury...you'll be shocked. That - and those three consecutive elimination games in the prime of his career when he failed to produce even one touchdown. Meanwhile his 4-0 SB record happened to be in the midst of something like 15 straight NFC wins...in context, not so immortal.

>>check out profootballl reference and check out the stats of journeymen QBs when they played 3-4 games during a Montana injury

This is true. I looked up Steve Young's career recently and was surprised to see that I think he even played like 7 games during one of Joe's 4 Super Bowl years. Not totally sure but sure I saw that.

 

[varjao]

oh really Brady is the goat?

Spoiler

 

[Le Numéro Douze]

oh really Brady is the goat?

Spoiler

I know, I know, in other earth shatering news, water is wet and the Earth is a globe (unless you are Kyrie Irivin)

 

[MitchKumstein]

This will break Joe Buck's heart.

And Chris Simms' heart too.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

I try to tell me kids the following when they refer to themselves as the best or coolest...
1) Only 1 can be the best
2) You can't determine yourself to be the best, that gets anointed to you by others. By proclaiming yourself to be the best, that only invites criticism.

Stay Humble and always be positive towards other people. Thus, I prefer the Aaron Rodgers quote over the Joe Montana quote. Shows me Joe can't appreciate greatness without feeling threatened by it.

 

[AtomicDawg]

Here is the clip for lazy folks.



BTW, he calls Green Bay "TitleTown". I get the history of that name and all that...but come on.

 

[TB12TheGoat]

Here is the clip for lazy folks.



BTW, he calls Green Bay "TitleTown". I get the history of that name and all that...but come on.

At this point, Boston is title town and has been for a while

 

[Snake Eyes]

Saw a typo in your post so fixed it for you.

I'm sorry, you need to go to (and win) more championships than Trent Dilfer before you're welcome in the top 5 discussion.

I'm not sure Rodgers qualifies for top 10 at this stage of his career. Not meant to be disrespectful, but there have been a lot of great QBs.

That's ridiculous.

QBs alone don't win championships, teams do, but you already made that point yourself regarding a terrible QB like Dilfer.

If you look at Rodgers go to work on the field it's not difficult to come to the conclusion that on a skill level he's on of the best. He doesn't have one of the most accomplished careers ever but if I needed to win a game today and I could chose any QB in their prime I'd take Rodgers right after TFB.

 

[scott99]

Saw a typo in your post so fixed it for you.

I'm sorry, you need to go to (and win) more championships than Trent Dilfer before you're welcome in the top 5 discussion.

I'm not sure Rodgers qualifies for top 10 at this stage of his career. Not meant to be disrespectful, but there have been a lot of great QBs.

Not true, you don't have to go to or win championships to be mentioned in the top 5. Right when they retired, both Marino and Fouts were considered top 5 QBs at that time. yes they've been surpassed by Brady, Brees and Manning, but neither won a SB and were considered top 5 alltime, at worst top 10 when they retired. Rodgers, I'd say he's in the top 10 alltime right now, maybe top 7. Overall I'd take him over Roethlisberger, he had the worst QB rating EVER by a winning SB QB in the victory over Seattle. Was gifted a championship. Rodgers played great in his one SB.

 

[GoBlue]

This has to be one of the coolest videos I've watched of the Patriots featuring Tom Brady. I pulled it from Patriots Nation on Facebook.

 

[ivanvamp]

Yeah, I'm a big Rodgers fan, but that was one of the most overrated plays we'll ever hear about.

I thought it was an incredible play by both Rodgers and the receiver. Nothing overrated about it. Escaping pressure, HUGE moment in a playoff game, rolling to his left, throwing across his body, threading the needle 20+ yards downfield.

As far as QB play goes, it's hard to come up with a more impressive throw, especially under the circumstances.

I'd still rather have Brady, but that throw by Rodgers was absolutely incredible in every way.

(by the way, the Packers got lucky on that play because their OL literally tackled a Cowboy D-lineman but no holding call)

 

[Deus Irae]

I thought it was an incredible play by both Rodgers and the receiver. Nothing overrated about it. Escaping pressure, HUGE moment in a playoff game, rolling to his left, throwing across his body, threading the needle 20+ yards downfield.

As far as QB play goes, it's hard to come up with a more impressive throw, especially under the circumstances.

I'd still rather have Brady, but that throw by Rodgers was absolutely incredible in every way.

(by the way, the Packers got lucky on that play because their OL literally tackled a Cowboy D-lineman but no holding call)

Quarterback runs from pocket
Quarterback hits wide open receiver on the sideline


That play happens about a million times a season. There's probably not a single QB, starter or backup, in the NFL, who couldn't have made that throw.


Rodgers has made hundreds of better/more difficult throws in his NFL career.

 

[Tony2046]

This has to be one of the coolest videos I've watched of the Patriots featuring Tom Brady. I pulled it from Patriots Nation on Facebook.

No doubt. That's just awesome.