Jets Suck -- 2016 Edition (Official): Futility Confirmed

[JetFan79]

do you eat at McDonald's and wear Vans, too?

Back in '99 when the first Blair Witch came out?.. hells yeah I was eating Mickey Ds. Probably like 5 time a week. Never wore Vans though.

 

[supafly]

He wasn't "onto" something, he's "on" something. He wasn't "anti-Fitz" at all

In my back and forths with him he was very pro-Geno Smith, preferring him over Fitzpatrick to start. I remember finding it odd that he didn't want Fitzpatrick to re-sign during the holdout, and even stranger that he was confident and excited about Smith, who I was salivating at the thought of facing twice a year.

You may have had a different encounter, but that's what my post was regarding.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Hey everyone , remember when jet fans said Chad Pennington > Tom Brady?

 

[Joker]

Hey everyone , remember when jet fans said Chad Pennington > Tom Brady?

You mean "Ducks" Hurlington?

 

[Tunescribe]

In my back and forths with him he was very pro-Geno Smith, preferring him over Fitzpatrick to start. I remember finding it odd that he didn't want Fitzpatrick to re-sign during the holdout, and even stranger that he was confident and excited about Smith, who I was salivating at the thought of facing twice a year.

You may have had a different encounter, but that's what my post was regarding.

I checked back on his posting history as I recall some specifics but several of his late-August/early-September pro-Fizzlepick posts appear to have mysteriously vanished, unless they reside in another thread. Essentially, he began his "start Gee-No!" campaign when Fizzle held out for big $$$. After veteran Green Beans threatened mutiny if Fizzle wasn't re-signed, he was thrilled to have "FitzMagic" back with the qualifier that he wasn't worth $12 million. Only after the season tanked did he bail on Fizzlepick completely claiming he never wanted him to begin with. Typical revisionist history.

 

[Bill Lee]

Marshall: Jets' season was like sitting in a dirty diaper

Hey embattled team leader Brandon Marshall, how would you characterize another lost year for Gang Green?

"The best way I can describe it is, having a diaper on and never changing it. And just sitting in that diaper the whole year," Marshall said on Tuesday's airing of Inside The NFL on Showtime. "That's how our year was. It was a bad year."

In other words, The Jets Suck!

The Jets started their season with a 23-22 home loss to the Bengals in which they missed an extra point and had a chip-shot field goal blocked. Two weeks later, Ryan Fitzpatrick threw seven interceptions in a loss at Kansas City that included an argument between Brandon Marshall and Sheldon Richardson that Darrelle Revis later said left a "dark cloud" over the team. The season spiraled from there. The Jets never won more than two in a row and lost five games by at least 21 points.

So Marshall's right, the diaper got dirty quick. And to extend this scatological analogy a bit further, Todd Bowles proved incapable of changing the Huggies. Or, to take it in yet another direction, the Jets -- with no Super Bowl appearances since the 1968 season -- have been unable to get out of diapers for the past 49 years. They're an old guy in diapers. That's no good.

In other words, The Jets Suck!

Even NFL.COM has no problems pointing it out.

Such great team leadership!

 

[JetFan79]

I checked back on his posting history as I recall some specifics but several of his late-August/early-September pro-Fizzlepick posts appear to have mysteriously vanished, unless they reside in another thread. Essentially, he began his "start Gee-No!" campaign when Fizzle held out for big $$$. After veteran Green Beans threatened mutiny if Fizzle wasn't re-signed, he was thrilled to have "FitzMagic" back with the qualifier that he wasn't worth $12 million. Only after the season tanked did he bail on Fizzlepick completely claiming he never wanted him to begin with. Typical revisionist history.

 

[SVN]

another classic rant

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Ha, could only listen to the first minute or so until my blood pressure started rising and I had to cut it off. Following politics is aggregating enough for me. Sports radio makes me wanna bash head against the desk.

He's not wrong about Bowles being a failure this season though. He's been horrible. Macc too somewhat. Re-signing Fitz and continuing to play him beyond week 3 were the biggest screw-ups, but it all waterfalled and Bowles lost the entire team.

It sucks breaking in a new coach. Hell, even the great Belichick wasn't very good at first. Problem is deciding how long to deal with the growing pains while the newbs learn. I suppose if you go with a rookie coach vs some big name veteran coach, gotta expect it.

Hopefully he's better in his 3rd season. Otherwise kick him to the curb.

One thing in his favor is odds are the team will get better next season so long as he doesn't lose the locker room again.

Say want ya will about the Jets, skill/player wise, they're not amongst the worst in the league (excluding Fitz). If Bowles can even be competent next season, the team should at least be playing meaningful games in December, and that will probably give him a 4th year in 2018.

The roster is the by far and away the biggest problem, not the coaching. This is a garbage dump that Macc assembled, and I have no idea why he still has a job, unless he was directed by ownership that he had one year to build a competitive roster (in 2015), which was likely the case.

Macc inherited a bad situation, in that the Jets had a ton of money in the 2015 offseason. You don't want to have a massive amount of cap space when that money is not going to be used mostly on extending your own players. Otherwise, you are going into the offseason with the intent of using a huge amount of money on poor value free agents acquired through auctions, and mostly those who are vastly overrated in the league despite being available at the right time. Getting a bunch of over 30 fading veterans and putting lipstick on the pig (or Fitzpatrick's beard, in this case)...this collapse was coming.

I know Jets fans hated Idzik, but I thought the fans were impatient. He whiffed on some draft picks and talent evaluations, but too small a sample size to know if it was just bad luck. It was a massive rebuilding project that required patience, developing young players, and resisting the temptation to build a quick fix team. Then Johnson pulled out his trademark card of, after two years, starting over with an opposite philosophy, bringing in the low key Bowles to replace Ryan and the spend happy Macc to replace the conservative Idzik. I see a pattern with the NYJ...

 

[AtomicDawg]

Even the GM is joking at the Jest's expense. They'll need voodoo, Houdini, dark elixers and everything else to beat the Pats next year.

 

[RobertWeathers]

The roster is the by far and away the biggest problem, not the coaching. This is a garbage dump that Macc assembled, and I have no idea why he still has a job, unless he was directed by ownership that he had one year to build a competitive roster (in 2015), which was likely the case.

Macc inherited a bad situation, in that the Jets had a ton of money in the 2015 offseason. You don't want to have a massive amount of cap space when that money is not going to be used mostly on extending your own players. Otherwise, you are going into the offseason with the intent of using a huge amount of money on poor value free agents acquired through auctions, and mostly those who are vastly overrated in the league despite being available at the right time. Getting a bunch of over 30 fading veterans and putting lipstick on the pig (or Fitzpatrick's beard, in this case)...this collapse was coming.

I know Jets fans hated Idzik, but I thought the fans were impatient. He whiffed on some draft picks and talent evaluations, but too small a sample size to know if it was just bad luck. It was a massive rebuilding project that required patience, developing young players, and resisting the temptation to build a quick fix team. Then Johnson pulled out his trademark card of, after two years, starting over with an opposite philosophy, bringing in the low key Bowles to replace Ryan and the spend happy Macc to replace the conservative Idzik. I see a pattern with the NYJ...

Woody listens to the fans. As long as he does, the Jets will never win anything.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Even the GM is joking at the Jest's expense. They'll need voodoo, Houdini, dark elixers and everything else to beat the Pats next year.

I have no idea how this guy won GM of the Year. They go 10-6, miss the playoffs and he wins?

I don't care how bad of a situation he interited.

He is terrible

 

[goheels22002]

another classic rant

LOL. Evan at the 10:50 mark ",,,the cheese is green, the cheese is rotten, and it's 57 miles away!"

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Probably already covered but this was hilarious.

Woody Johnson on unnamed coach saying Hackenberg can't hit the ocean: "Depends on which ocean."

 

[Brit patriot]

Jets source on QB Christian Hackenberg: ‘He will never make it'

"He'll never make it"

Actually feeling sorry for the young fella

 

[BTTA]

...That's the kind of radio we need around here. True knowledgable Pat fans discussing this team and not a bunch of "I can't wait to be syndicated" contrarian clickbait artists.

The marketplace sorts this stuff out. If that approach to sports radio would work in the greater Boston market, it would already be successful. There simply aren't enough local sports fans who prefer it over nonsense and hysteria.

 

[BTTA]

Even the GM is joking at the Jest's expense. They'll need voodoo, Houdini, dark elixers and everything else to beat the Pats next year.

Yeah, that's pretty remarkable, to tell your team that they can't win the division as long as the QB of one of the other teams is playing well. So if Brady plays well in the first few games next year, just hang it up? Wow.

 

[TheRightTool]

Here is a Jets fan from JetsFanForum responding to a Pats fan in which the topic was the anniversary of "I resign as HC of the NYJ". The conversation predictably turned into jealousy and accusations from the fools who don't know how to talk football and keep on topic. But a few responses were somewhat related to the topic.
Here is a Jets fan from JetsFanForum responding to a Pats fan who stated that Belichick left the organization in 2000 because he saw the train wreck starting, which, let's be honest, he wasn't wrong.

"He saw the train wreck starting" is about as dumb as it gets. Also not sure how one could portray the Jets as egomaniacs. This is especially ironic coming from a Pats supporter.

Bottom line is that this guy, like many successful politicians and CEOs in modern society, exhibits all of the key traits of a sociopath. It's partly why he's successful, frankly. But it's also what makes him a crappy person. You know, the kind that puts winning ahead of decency, has no regard for sportsmanship, thinks he's bigger than the game; the kind that holds baseless grudges, lies and blames others for his own poor choices, and the kind who would cheat on his wife. He's garbage, plain and simple. Everyone sees it. The only people who don't are the ones who refuse to acknowledge it, because you know... sports trophies.

I'm glad he left. It's 17 years later and I have kids now. I'm glad I don't have to explain to them why my team made the choices it did, why its legacy will be forever tainted, and why much of the fans base makes excuses for poor behavior. I'm especially glad I didn't become a shameless shill that defends people that couldn't care less about me in kind.

Just look at the intellectual deviancy and sociopathic degeneracy of a Jets fan who, miraculously, is able to put together collection of thoughts rather coherently. A classic display of projecting insecurities to those whom you consider rivals by standing on the moral highground of farce.
He states he cannot possibly see how the Jets are egomaniacs given their constant corrupt league office activities and continuous illegal behavior towards their daddies up north and then follows up with all sorts of examples to describe Belichick and this fan base, which, word for word, is a perfect description of the Jets and their fanbase instead.

This individual has to live a life explaining to his kids why the Jets are closing in on 50 years of futility, why the Jets are playing Russian Roulette with every coach they hire and quarterback they draft, why the Jets overpay for veterans who break down quickly, why the Jets are the second fiddle in the city they play in along with the fact that they don't have their own stadium, why the stadium the Jets play in is in the middle of a swamp, why the Jets fans around the stadium use words that can't be repeated on here but are shouted every 10 seconds at a Jets game.

I am quite happy and lucky to have picked the Patriots as my team of rooting interest, rather than a downtrodden collection of filth. Envy and shame go hand in hand with Jets fandom. It should be classified as a mental disorder.

 

[Bill Lee]

another classic rant

It was kind of funny how Evan was expecting Woody to be accountable to the fans. Dude, the guy was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and is a bazillionaire and would rather spend his time in London as an ambassador than focus on improving the New Jersey Dirty Diapers. Deal with it.

Both of them are right, the team needs a rebuild, but given how Woody runs the team, he won't put up with that, so you are going to see the cycle looping around again and again: hire coaches and managers expecting them to win now, they hire aging free agents trying to put together a few wins but they fall short, fire coaches and management, repeat.

After listening to the rants over the years I feel a bit sorry for Joe, but the solution is clear: dump the Jets. However if he does that he loses the schtick that makes his show go, so he won't.

 

[Bill Lee]

The marketplace sorts this stuff out. If that approach to sports radio would work in the greater Boston market, it would already be successful. There simply aren't enough local sports fans who prefer it over nonsense and hysteria.

It could be, or it could be that many of us just turned it off back when it became clear that the Howard Stern approach to radio was taking over, and all that is left in the marketplace is people who like nonsense and hysteria, whether they admit it or not.

As for me, I have a long list of NFL (and non-NFL) podcasts on my phone that I listen to, so I almost never listen to commercial radio. Much better content, and either no ads or very few ads that can easily be skipped so much more content.