Mounting frustration in Denver locker room: "Any time we hold Brady to 16 points, we expect to win!"

[shmessy]

I appreciate TJ Ward making a bonehead play and getting flagged for unnecessary roughness. I was watching the game with my 8 year old and explained to him that you can cost your team the game when you are thinking about yourself instead of the team. The pats winning the division and securing a 1st round bye was the icing on top of the cake. What a great Sunday afternoon!

"..... I was watching the game with my 8 year old and explained to him that you can cost your team the game when you are thinking about yourself instead of the team....."

Accentuated by visiting TJ Ward's twitter feed - - - it is 95% tweets about how you can vote for him for the Pro-Bowl. I mean, it is DAILY - it is the entire focus of his life. There is virtually nothing in there about his team - - just how you can vote him in for the Pro-Bowl.

That type of player is a cancer to a team.

 

[Mack Herron]

Brady did have some struggles but he also showed he could get the win without Gronk or his wideouts. Once again he found a way to win and that's always been his greatest strength.

Well he couldn't quite do it last year. To me, the biggest factor this year on his side of the ball is they have a balanced offense they lacked last year, so they can still move the ball and win with TB12 (and Blount) having off games. Throw in the defensive improvements, and this team is much deeper and more balanced than last year's.

 

[archstanton543]

Kiszla: Unable to beat New England, that championship feeling has died for Broncos

This will make you laugh.

"Late in the fourth quarter, after most of the home crowd had turned its back on the defending champs and headed for the exit, there was Ward, out on the field, slamming New England receiver Julian Edelman to the ground with a vicious tackle on an incomplete pass. As the penalty flag for unnecessary roughness flew, Ward turned to the New England sideline, raised both arms above shoulder-level, bent his elbows and flexed his biceps defiantly at the Patriots.

This defense dies hard. 'We always fight,' Ward said."

Oh, so that wasn't a completely boneheaded play and flex. It was an act of defiance!

 

[Kontradiction]

Kiszla: Unable to beat New England, that championship feeling has died for Broncos

This will make you laugh.

"Late in the fourth quarter, after most of the home crowd had turned its back on the defending champs and headed for the exit, there was Ward, out on the field, slamming New England receiver Julian Edelman to the ground with a vicious tackle on an incomplete pass. As the penalty flag for unnecessary roughness flew, Ward turned to the New England sideline, raised both arms above shoulder-level, bent his elbows and flexed his biceps defiantly at the Patriots.

This defense dies hard. 'We always fight,' Ward said."

Oh, so that wasn't a completely bone-headed play and flex. It was an act of defiance!

It was Ward being a dunce. The scoreboard said 16-3. Joke's on you, idiot.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Well he couldn't quite do it last year. To me, the biggest factor this year on his side of the ball is they have a balanced offense they lacked last year, so they can still move the ball and win with TB12 (and Blount) having off games. Throw in the defensive improvements, and this team is much deeper and more balanced than last year's.

You're putting that on Brady?

Other than Brady only four quarterbacks in NFL history have won more than 130 games, Brady is more than 130 games over .500, he's the greatest winner in NFL history, period.

 

[jah]

That dudes YouTube channel is half hilarious and half sad lol.

It's satire.

 

[Mack Herron]

You're putting that on Brady?

Of course not. You have misread what I wrote. You credited Brady in saying "he found a way to win." I am simply saying that Brady is not the only reason or even the main reason they won last night.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Of course not. You have misread what I wrote. You credited Brady in saying "he found a way to win." I am simply saying that Brady is not the only reason or even the main reason they won last night.

I never said Brady was the reason they won I said he found a way to win, and that's his job. They had no Gronk and his wideouts were blanketed all night, so he used Edelman and his backs and didn't make any mistakes in a game where a mistake could have been fatal. If I were giving out credit for the win the defense would be first and OL second, then Butler, but Brady showed once again that no matter what you take away he will find something else to get it done, many teams and QBs simply cannot do that.

 

[Mack Herron]

I never said Brady was the reason they won I said he found a way to win, and that's his job. They had no Gronk and his wideouts were blanketed all night, so he used Edelman and his backs and didn't make any mistakes in a game where a mistake could have been fatal. If I were giving out credit for the win the defense would be first and OL second, then Butler, but Brady showed once again that no matter what you take away he will find something else to get it done, many teams and QBs simply cannot do that.

You are off base in interpreting my remarks as a criticism of Brady. Brady is the GOAT. But last year's team could not win in Denver (he couldn't find something else), and this year's team did. The difference was not Brady. I am saying that this is a better team.

 

[chasa]

i mean i know im going to get dislikes for this but.

HE'S NOT WRONG

the denver defense held the #1 offense in the league to 16 points. They did their job. The blame 100% goes on the denver offense here. which got completely shut out for 3 and 3/4's of the game.

 

[Huckleberry1]

You are off base in interpreting my remarks as a criticism of Brady. Brady is the GOAT. But last year's team could not win in Denver (he couldn't find something else), and this year's team did. The difference was not Brady. I am saying that this is a better team.

You said " he couldn't get it done in Denver last year" not they. If Gostkowski doesn't miss his first PA in 530+ tries Brady has them going into OT, despite getting hammered 23 times.

If you misspoke that's fine, I really don't care about arguments over semantics.

 

[Huckleberry1]

i mean i know im going to get dislikes for this but.

HE'S NOT WRONG

the denver defense held the #1 offense in the league to 16 points. They did their job. The blame 100% goes on the denver offense here. which got completely shut out for 3 and 3/4's of the game.

It's a team game, Ward is a loudmouth.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

Bunch of *******

 

[Double TE]

TJ, let me tell you a little secret about your team's offense...

...It's not good enough to win even if you hold the Pats to 16 pts.

Even if they held them to six pts it would not have been enough...

 

[The Gr8est]

I know Pats fans have been called arrogant by fans of other teams, and I guess it is something due to being vocally proud of our team.

That being said, I really do find the Broncos and their fans to be arrogant, with an added lack of perspective.

Left to their own devices they would be an also ran, quarterbacked by Tim Tebow, the QB that they drafted in the 1st round.

They had some talented players like Von Miller, due to being such a horrible team, that they were picking very high.

Then a future HOF QB, that they had nothing to do with drafting or developing, fell into their laps and made them relevant.

They act like the privileged person who it is said "was born on 3rd base and thinks they hit a triple". For them to say anything derogatory about the Pats and their history, is to ignore the fact that Your Team Cheats has them as the cheatingest team in the NFL*.

The Pats have earned everything they have and they did it the old fashioned way.

Like Smith Barney, they earned it!

 

[PatsFan92]

The defence won us the game and I am very happy about that because I was questioning whether or not they could do that but they proved me wrong. I had this game down as a loss for that reason because I didnt have faith that the defence would step up too win us the game. I expected Brady and the offence to not play well because Brady never seems to play well in Denver however Denver also has a good defence so that plays it part. Brady just looks very ordinary when he is playing in Denver. I do believe that Mile High is the toughest place in the NFL to go and win for a road team because of the altitude, very loud crowd noise and frigid weather so its always great to win there. Only good football teams win in Denver and I believe we are a very good team. The defence looks like its stepping up just in time for the playoffs which is great.

 

[Huckleberry1]

You are off base in interpreting my remarks as a criticism of Brady. Brady is the GOAT. But last year's team could not win in Denver (he couldn't find something else), and this year's team did. The difference was not Brady. I am saying that this is a better team.

I definitely agree the team is better and believe that what we saw yesterday was deliberately designed to be that way. After the loss in Denver last season Belichick imperatives were to fix the OL, fix the ground game, and improve the defense. He's been planning on taking Miller out of the game by running the ball for almos a year and it came to fruition yesterday. I loved it.

 

[Ring 6]

Well he couldn't quite do it last year. To me, the biggest factor this year on his side of the ball is they have a balanced offense they lacked last year, so they can still move the ball and win with TB12 (and Blount) having off games. Throw in the defensive improvements, and this team is much deeper and more balanced than last year's.

Brady 'appeared' to struggle, because of what he was asked to do. We ran the ball on first down more than I can ever remember. Our game plan took away a lot of the things Brady does well in order to be safe.
Gameplans evolve as the game goes on. It is clear that this one was about being safe on offense, not turning the ball over (which is actually 90% of why we have lost in Denver historically) and put the game in the hands of what is becoming one of the best defenses in the NFL .
Had the game been 17-14 in the 2nd quarter you would have seen more throwing on early downs, more plays designed to get the ball down the field, and a game plan driving chunk plays rather that 3rd and short and a punt is ok.

 

[Ring 6]

I definitely agree the team is better and believe that what we saw yesterday was deliberately designed to be that way. After the loss in Denver last season Belichick imperatives were to fix the OL, fix the ground game, and improve the defense. He's been planning on taking Miller out of the game by running the ball for almos a year and it came to fruition yesterday. I loved it.

Remember Lomardis quote. They came off the field saying the one thing they had to fix was that Denver dared them to run and they still couldn't run effectively, and that when teams give them the run, they need to be able to take it.

 

[Gronkowski123]

all things being equal, we're just better than denver. always have been, they only defeat us when we're missing half of our team.

neutral field we'd beat the **** out of them.