NFL Investigates the Giants use of Walkie Talkies: IOW Tossing Red Herrings

[SVN]

"Oh alright!

Coach McAdoo suspended 4 games, and Giants forfeit 1st and 4th round picks in the 2017 draft.

Since this is their first offense, this sentence is suspended intil the end of the season, if there are no more incidents, the penalty will be revoked."

d%#*!@t John, be more careful next time, people are starting to suspect we are not being fair!"

NFL will cook up some lawyer **** like "Chain of command" etc etc and make it a fine. they dont care what the media says in this regard.

 

[Tony2046]

Wells and Exponent was already able to dig up the smoking gun discovered in the bathroom behind the Giants side of the field. The below evidence has been submitted to Goodell for prompt disposal.

OK this is extremely OT but I have to tell the story. Your pics reminded me of it.

While in the Army I went to school with a bunch of Marines (purposely Capitalized).

So one guy told me a story about a Marine during his basic training who had lost it and just wanted out. During a room inspection he laid out his civilian attire across his bed while everyone else laid out their military gear. He put his Cowboy hat at the top, his belt, big ole Texan belt buckle and displayed everything else all the way down to his Cowboy boots. (Everyone else had the Helmet to their combat boots on display)

The Drill inspector yanks his ass into the commander's office. The Commander barks out, "Marine!! What in the Hell is wrong with you?!?"

He pulls his wallet out of his back pocket, flips it open as if it were a Star Trek communicator and says, "Beam me up Scotty.......I'm in a world of ****. "

Hahahahaha

 

[SVN]

Dungy says every coach knows walkie-talkies are not allowed

 

[TheBostonStraggler]

A different more competent commissioner would have kept a majority of the Scandal BS in house and not used it to glorify himself.

Agree but competence doesn't necessarily include what he also lacks, functional honesty. The commissioner has reached a level of a second nature type dishonesty, a life long politician type dishonesty.

Sure, there will be times that someone in his position will have to....ya know...stretch the truth a bit. He will leave out words and phrases for viable deniability, avoidance, to coax an uncomfortable subject toward a more comfortable spot. It's just the nature of the beast. But this guy has stood up and lied through his teeth on numerous occasions. Even when the lies were conspicuous he would double down on the obvious lies.

It was Deus who called it several seasons ago. When Goodell decided media would be the underlying ethical motivation/guide for fairness, that was certain to lead to the slimy behavior and lies that the commissioner and his lackeys use so cavalierly. Think about that, a giant collective made up of CHB, Tomase, ESPN among many others guides Goodell's decision making. A group who couldn't do an Internet search on ideal gas law, consider what cold weather does to air, perform a cursory reading of the rules on filming the opposition, or stop their own memes long enough to consider plain statistics -- this group's collective "thinking" is what Goodell uses as his primary decision making guidance. Appalling and in the long term likely to lead to a reckoning.

 

[SVN]

Teams are allowed to have walkie-talkies on the sidelines, they just can’t speak into them

"Giants fully cooperated unlike the arrogant patriots, that why they were let off easy" - Media next week.

 

[SVN]

 

[Mack Herron]

 

[MagicMarker]

This has to be worse than "SpyGate" doesn't it? In that case, the Patriots were standing in plain sight video taping something also in plain site. This was before everything was saved to the cloud -- the recording media was inside the camera. It had to broken down and cataloged...Something that would take several days. There was no advantage during the game and, has been stated here many times, the videographer could have been inside the enclosed press box and there would have been no issue. However, the Patriots violated the rule after a memo came out specifically telling teams not to do it.

If the "blatantly disregarding a league memo" was the reason for the large punishment, after hearing what Dungy said, that would make the 2007 punishment right on point -- it should be a first round draft choice and a fine.

And, don't say the Giants cooperating gives them some leniency. The Patriots did, too.

AND, in this case, it was an advantage to the Giants DURING the game. That would seem to make it a more serious offense than what the Patriots did.

I'm a Patriots fan and I admit I'm biased. But, I think that position is well founded.

 

[Jackson 2]

This has to be worse than "SpyGate" doesn't it? In that case, the Patriots were standing in plain sight video taping something also in plain site. This was before everything was saved to the cloud -- the recording media was inside the camera. It had to broken down and cataloged...Something that would take several days. There was no advantage during the game and, has been stated here many times, the videographer could have been inside the enclosed press box and there would have been no issue. However, the Patriots violated the rule after a memo came out specifically telling teams not to do it.

If the "blatantly disregarding a league memo" was the reason for the large punishment, after hearing what Dungy said, that would make the 2007 punishment right on point -- it should be a first round draft choice and a fine.

And, don't say the Giants cooperating gives them some leniency. The Patriots did, too.

AND, in this case, it was an advantage to the Giants DURING the game. That would seem to make it a more serious offense than what the Patriots did.

I'm a Patriots fan and I admit I'm biased. But, I think that position is well founded.

Far too reasoned and well-thought out for an NFL office mind. Nothing will come of this. Nothing. Mara is one of Goodell's hand job partners.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

Ignoring a league memo is grounds for stripping your first round draft pick. If the Giants don't lose there first red draft pick, Kraft should have a cow!!!!!

 

[luuked]

According to ESPN they will get a fine and that's it.

Sources: Giants to be fined for walkie-talkie use

I am sure Kraft was working behind the scenes to remind other owners how a certain team lost valuable draft picks because of thermodynamics and filming from the wrong location. Thanks for nothing yet again you spineless fcuk..

 

[Jackson 2]

According to ESPN they will get a fine and that's it.

Sources: Giants to be fined for walkie-talkie use

I am sure Kraft was working behind the scenes to remind other owners how a certain team lost valuable draft picks because of thermodynamics and filming from the wrong location. Thanks for nothing yet again you spineless fcuk..

It wouldn't matter if Kraft or any other person in authority from the president, president-elect, ************ or Allah on down *****ed, pissed and moaned or cried like a baby. Discipline in this league is meted out according to how cozy one is with Goodell and how effectively one fellates him. Period. End of story.

 

[Danger Zone]

According to ESPN they will get a fine and that's it.

Sources: Giants to be fined for walkie-talkie use

I am sure Kraft was working behind the scenes to remind other owners how a certain team lost valuable draft picks because of thermodynamics and filming from the wrong location. Thanks for nothing yet again you spineless fcuk..

I'm sure the Mara's will just be devastated when they see their $10,001 fine..

 

[Mack Herron]

From Reiss:

4. Imagine if Belichick had used a walkie-talkie to communicate with Brady during a game, as Giants coach Ben McAdoo did with Eli Manningin Sunday’s 10-7 win over the Cowboys? Ted Wells might be up for some more billable hours and Roger Goodell would be on the front lines talking about “integrity of the game.” Walkie-talkies are prohibited because there is no way to regulate them shutting off with 15 seconds left on the play clock, per league rules, and the NFL is investigating the situation with the most likely outcome that McAdoo and/or the Giants will be fined.

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[Jackson 2]

I'm sure the Mara's will just be devastated when they see their $10,001 fine..

More like $.10001...

 

[ivanvamp]

This is absolutely worse than Spygate. The Browns should be the team that is pissed if the Giants just get a little fine, because their GM got suspended for texting them on the sidelines. This is the same kind of thing. But not only was what the Browns did worse than what the Patriots did, the Giants here did something worse, but also the Broncos - under Josh McDaniels, by the way - did something far worse when they taped the 49ers practice in London prior to their matchup a number of years ago. Yet the Browns got a GM suspended, the Broncos had a $100k fine, and the Giants look like they'll get a slap on the wrist. The Patriots, meanwhile, lost a first round draft pick and were fined a million dollars, up to that point the biggest penalty in NFL history.

On ball tampering, the Chargers put a tacky substance on the balls a few years ago. The Panthers were caught on television tampering with air pressure in a cold game in Minnesota. The Seahawks were caught on film this year using clearly under inflated footballs. The Giants caught the Steelers this year using under inflated footballs. None of those teams got any punishment at all. The Patriots are caught using under inflated footballs (so were the Colts, of course!) and they got their QB suspended four games, lost a first round pick, a fourth round pick, and were fined $1 million again.

And people wonder why Patriots' fans have this...complex?

 

[RobertWeathers]

According to ESPN they will get a fine and that's it.

Sources: Giants to be fined for walkie-talkie use

I am sure Kraft was working behind the scenes to remind other owners how a certain team lost valuable draft picks because of thermodynamics and filming from the wrong location. Thanks for nothing yet again you spineless fcuk..

 

[Mack Herron]

 

[farn]

Embarrassing that these teams still keep losing to NE at a record decade & a half pace.

I'm not mature enough to "just get over it". Maybe it's my fault.

 

[luuked]

The amazing thing here is that the Giants blatantly and directly violated the communication rule without any ambiguity about it. Whereas during #cameraplacegate you could at least argue that "use recordings during the game" part made the rules at least a bit ambiguous.

**** the Browns got hit harder for using a cellphone between upstairs and the coaching area with a fine + GM suspension.