Miami week

[Jackson 2]

Not worried. He was hurt last game but came back in. This is a maintenance day I am sure.

Yes. He got a little dinged early, but played the rest of the way. Should be OK.

 

[Deus Irae]

Fun reading how deeply butthurt the Phins fans are going onto 2 decades of total domination by the Cheatriots, I mean Patriots. Yeah, it's evil BB doing bad stuff we can't detect, not that their own coaches, GMs and players suck.

The Jets, Bills, and Dolphins would finish at about 14-2, every year, if it weren't for those cheating Patriots.

 

[Deus Irae]

Football Outsiders gives Tannyhill a failing grade.

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | Week 1 Quick Reads

That "Fin D" poster is a world class moron.

 

[pazrul72]

That "Fin D" poster is a world class moron.

I almost want to respond to his posts with a long thought out well written post showing how they "cheated" and when and see what he says to the facts. Yeah Bill and Tom are probably the most competitive people on the planet and yeah they will push the boundaries and exploit any loophole but they are also honest about it. Camera placement gate for instance, yeah we did it, no it didn't effect anything on the field, we misinterpreted a commissioners memo not an actual rulebook rule. Yet for this they get villified and the death penalty. Besides that what "cheating" have they done? Walk thru? Never happened. Radio stuff? Happens to other teams all the time, it's screwed the pats a time or two as well. Deflategate? NFL admitted in federal court they have ZERO evidence.
Probably not worth the time as he would come back with something along the lines of go root for your cheating cheater cheatriots. *sigh* I hate people

 

[Wordsmyth]

Part of being a member of this winning family of fandom means enduring the slings and arrows of simpering, whiny, clowning oats disguised as football aficionados.

 

[Wordsmyth]

Oafs . Autocorrect!

 

[long distance]

Here's a Dolphin with a good vision ...

Dolphins safety Michael Thomas isn't concerned with the Patriots missing QB Tom Brady and potentially TE Rob Gronkowski. "They look like the Patriots to me," Thomas said.

 

[Deus Irae]

Adam Gase tossing a bouquet to McDaniels:

"The thing that makes it tough playing this team is (Patriots Offensive Coordinator) Josh (McDaniels)," said first-year Dolphins coach Adam Gase. "He'll do a great job. He'll figure out a way that's best for them this week. He's not going to do something that either the quarterback or somebody else can't do. That's what makes them so tough to go against, no matter who is playing on Sunday. They're going to adjust to their personnel and figure out what's best for that team and for that opponent they're playing."

Asked about the Patriots' long-lasting dominance, Gase called the team "chameleon."

"I think they do a great job as far as every guy they seem to bring in, they maximize what that guy has," Gase said. "They adjust to who's on their roster. There's not really a, 'Here's our scheme and you guys, if you don't fit in, we're going to get rid of you.' They figure out ... They get their guys in the building. They make their roster adjustments, and they do what's best for them for that week. When you have a team that is that chameleon, where you're not really sure what you're going to get, it makes it tough."

Adam Gase: What makes New England Patriots offense so tough to defend is Josh McDaniels

 

[JMC00]

lolphins fans very confident of a win. citing that they played a close game with Seattle and should have won if Stills caught the ball. But seem to completely forget Pats beat a team that was better than Seattle last year.

I'm not foolish to think it can't happen but the whole "we played Seattle tough and should have won if Stills caught the ball and the FG wasn't blocked" is such a weak argument. If we play that game than it's "if Pats don't fumble twice and Bennett isn't called for cleanly demolishing Chandler Jones. Pats win that by at least 14"

 

[long distance]

lolphins fans very confident of a win. citing that they played a close game with Seattle and should have won if Stills caught the ball. But seem to completely forget Pats beat a team that was better than Seattle last year.

I'm not foolish to think it can't happen but the whole "we played Seattle tough and should have won if Stills caught the ball and the FG wasn't blocked" is such a weak argument. If we play that game than it's "if Pats don't fumble twice and Bennett isn't called for cleanly demolishing Chandler Jones. Pats win that by at least 14"

The fact that Arizona was better than Seattle last year is not really relevant. But they did look better week 1. Watching Miami@Seattle game after ours it felt like slow-motion. It was a sloppy game from both parts, Seattle uncharacteristically missed many tackles etc. Like you mentioned before they played against one-legged QB for almost half of the game and still let an easy final TD drive. Like you also mentioned they have important injuries to their DL.

Id be surprised if this is a close game. I expect Solder to come back, Fleming to RT (Cannon being injured), Cooper/Mason one week closer to start although Karras's raw toughness should look better against Miami DL than it was vs Arizona. This time around I don't expect forced running game through the middle. If Cannon is good to go we might add Fleming as 6th OT and unleash Bennett on their secondary that looked quite suspect. I hope Jimmy is not impressed with home crowd, Suh or his big win. If he and Josh stay cool I expect a beautiful Sunday.

 

[FourierSeries]

I had to laugh.



Week Long Kick the **** out of the Patriots thread......

I can't wait to read that forum after Sunday's game. Hell, I can't wait to read the Jets' and Bills' forum either. Winning without Brady and Gronk hurts them more than any of our SB wins, because at least they had some hope that they could compete for the division after Brady retires.

 

[goheels22002]

Dolphins injuries - DE Mario Williams DNP - concussion, LB Jelani Jenkins DNP - Knee, DT Jordan Phillips DNP - ankle, C Mike Pouncy DNP - Hip, Arian Foster DNP - Hammie.

Dolphins also IRed DT Earl Mitchell, a veteran plugger. That's good news for Blount & company. If Jordan Phillips is out with the ankle, the Dolphins have serious depth issues up the middle. Watch for the Pats to pound the middle of the line on Sunday.

If the defensive guys are out, it will be a break for the OL. Mario Williams has never been a big factor in my recollection, against the Pats.

Pouncey's hip is also a big deal.

I would love to see Cooper and Gronk get on the field this week to give JG enough protection to expand the offense a little.

 

[WaterfallJumper]

Gase has had a few really nice press conferences talking about the Patriots' approach to personnel and game planning. He seems like a steady, intelligent coach. Too bad he's in Miami, so I'm required to hate him.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

I watched the first half against Seattle and their defense look solid on the other hand Seattle's offense was putrid so the low scoring game can be a bit misleading.

Not to mention that Suh stomped on Russell Wilson's ankle and had him immobile for the rest of the game. Still waiting for the League to assess fines and penalties for that...#integrity

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Dolphins injuries - DE Mario Williams DNP - concussion, LB Jelani Jenkins DNP - Knee, DT Jordan Phillips DNP - ankle, C Mike Pouncy DNP - Hip, Arian Foster DNP - Hammie.

Dolphins also IRed DT Earl Mitchell, a veteran plugger. That's good news for Blount & company. If Jordan Phillips is out with the ankle, the Dolphins have serious depth issues up the middle. Watch for the Pats to pound the middle of the line on Sunday.

If the defensive guys are out, it will be a break for the OL. Mario Williams has never been a big factor in my recollection, against the Pats.

Pouncey's hip is also a big deal.

I would love to see Cooper and Gronk get on the field this week to give JG enough protection to expand the offense a little.

A big ol' "Like" to everything but Gronk "on the field this week." I'd rather he get healed.

To my mind the optimal story line out of the first four games would be: "The Pats are 4--0 and neither Brady nor Gronkowski has set a foot on the field yet. The staff at 345 Park are rumored to be keeping Roger Goodell away from all windows after Mike Kensil jumped yesterday." Talk about "tanned, rested and ready!"

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Gase has had a few really nice press conferences talking about the Patriots' approach to personnel and game planning. He seems like a steady, intelligent coach. Too bad he's in Miami, so I'm required to hate him.

No, the only requirement is that we hate all things associated with the Jets.

For the Bills and Dolphins, the requirement is that we hope that they both continue to field futile, losing teams that allow the Pats to lock up the Division by Thanksgiving. Hatred is optional. The Bills fans are kind of cute and adorable (remember how they were chanting "We want Brady" after Week One last year and then they got him the next week and he tore their hearts out?). The modern Dolphins can't get out of their own way, wear teal green uniforms and have been to the Playoffs once in the last 14 years.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Playing in the Miami sauna is a real home field advantage early in the year, most teams aren't used to the heat. Thank goodness the first game is in NE this year, hopefully it will be cooler when we play in Miami.

Hopefully the game won't mean anything for the Pats with Home Field locked up...but I always have the Miami game in Miami as a possible L when I think about the season. They just have trouble down there.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Not to mention that Suh stomped on Russell Wilson's ankle and had him immobile for the rest of the game. Still waiting for the League to assess fines and penalties for that...#integrity

Y'know....If you look at the video in real time one would conclude it was completely unintentional.

But its Suh. Throughout his career hes had his incredibly uncanny knack of stepping on ankles and feet

Just can't give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[goheels22002]

A big ol' "Like" to everything but Gronk "on the field this week." I'd rather he get healed.

To my mind the optimal story line out of the first four games would be: "The Pats are 4--0 and neither Brady nor Gronkowski has set a foot on the field yet. The staff at 345 Park are rumored to be keeping Roger Goodell away from all windows after Mike Kensil jumped yesterday." Talk about "tanned, rested and ready!"

The Gronkowski absence is bothersome to me. If his hamstring is not healing, I agree with you. But if he can go, he should be active, even if only in a limited role.

The Patriots play four good defensive fronts in a row with JG at QB. Gronk's presence changes a lot for blitzing schemes against a depleted offensive line. Gronkowski adds an edge blocker to help the tackles, and he keeps an LB and a safety honest in coverage.

These games are critical, especially the Miami and Buffalo division games. If the Pats can win those two, they jump out on the division. Gronkowski is the difference between a decent offense and a dominating one. If he can help beat a division foe, he should give it a go.

I'm rooting for the Bills to beat the Jets tonight to give the Greenbeans a second loss. The Jets have a better overall situation than the Bills, a team with good talent that is wrapped in chaos with the Ryan brothers stomping around on the sideline.

 

[SalemPats]

This Miami defense is pretty strong, I love the addition of Kiko Alonso, great acquisition very dangerous combo with Misi. Mario Williams addition gives them power on the D-Line. Their defense will make this a dangerous game. I can see this being a defensive struggle with the team who wins the turnover battle wins the game. My guess is 17-14 for us