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Just as I begin to warm up to you again, you stick the knife right in my heart...Heartstabberfly
#Heartstabberfly ???... Isn't that the way it's done now??
 
My question remains, does Gronk deserve to be the highest paid tight end in football even though he
is guaranteed to miss games every year? Do you include a bonus in his contract for games
played?
yes
 
Maybe he wants a new K? Dude is severely underpaid based on market prices.
 
#Heartstabberfly ???... Isn't that the way it's done now??

Ha! I received a message this afternoon from a cousin who was asking friends/family members for ideas on what their hashtag should be for their wedding next month. My immediate thought was "what the hell do you need a hashtag for a wedding for?" It just seemed kind of...fake to me, that's all.

The worst part of the whole craze is that most people don't even use them correctly. I have no problem using a key phrase or word, as twitter intended. The annoying part is seeing people misuse them by having one, long, run-on phrase, the failure to break things down with lack of capitalization within that phrase, and the odd "need" to have 5-6 different hashtags for the same idea. It's douchey as hell. A good portion of people using them don't even know what the hell they're doing, aside from trying to look cool.
 
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Maybe he wants a new K? Dude is severely underpaid based on market prices.

I'm not really sure what a new "K" means, but if you're referring to a new pact I'm not buying that theory for a minute. If that were the case, it should've been addressed during the offseason one way or the other.

As far as him being underpaid, he received a good deal of money for the first part of the deal, where his health and injury concerns were very high. In other words, the team took a gamble on him with the understanding that it would benefit them down the road a bit. While I do think that he should be thrown a bone for good measure in the next 12-18 months, he should honor his part of the contract in the meantime. I highly doubt they'll make him "tough it out" for the remainder of the deal.
 
My question remains, does Gronk deserve to be the highest paid tight end in football even though he
is guaranteed to miss games every year? Do you include a bonus in his contract for games
played?

If that is what keeps him at New England, then yes. I can't imagine having to face Gronk. There is no answer for Gronk.
 
Some of the "analysis" being thrown around just seems absurd to me. Gronk went six seasons without missing a game due to any kind of muscle injury, missing time only due to blunt force injuries to bones and ligaments, which hardly seem "generally avoidable." Suddenly after missing this one game, people are predicting his demise? The way I see it, the most likely outcome here is that he returns soon at nearly full health and then either stays healthy or suffers some kind of completely unrelated and unpredictable injury. I'd love to see some explanation about how this is some major signal that he won't be healthy in future seasons.
 
When he is ready and can dominate like his usual self. After being the only team with a win in the AFCE they bought themselves more time to heal players up and not rush them back.
 
I don't buy any of that team Gronk had its own agenda crap.
My point was, however, if you look at BBs history he is much much much more likely to hold a player back an extra week than bring him back early.

Gronk is the only player on the team that talks about his injuries . He clearly doesn't want the team messaging he's fine when he isn't. Thats fine w me.

With that said I can't remember BB saying publicly a player is ready when he really isnt.
 
Gronk is the only player on the team that talks about his injuries . He clearly doesn't want the team messaging he's fine when he isn't. Thats fine w me.

With that said I can't remember BB saying publicly a player is ready when he really isnt.
You are assuming a lot which creates the impression of a rift.
 
Lets be clear on this 'report' that he could be out a long time.
This was Shefter with no information from the player or team, saying that since Gronk wasn't healthy enough to travel maybe he won't be healthy enough to play this week and if he isn't healthy enough to play this week, next week is a Thursday game so if he isn't ready Sunday he may not be ready yet by Thursday.
We could turn this into speculation Gronk could miss the season.
If he isn't ready for game 1 he probably wont be ready for game 2.
If he isn't ready for game 2 he probably won't he ready for game 3.
And on and on ad infinitum.
 
I'm not really sure what a new "K" means, but if you're referring to a new pact I'm not buying that theory for a minute. If that were the case, it should've been addressed during the offseason one way or the other.

Exactly my thoughts. And if he wasn't playing due to unhappiness with his contract, wouldn't it make sense for him to actually tell someone that's why he wasn't playing? Why keep it a secret?
 
More Team Gronk bullschitt.... Gord pulling the strings
 
Courtney Fallon ?@CourtneyFallon_ 25m25 minutes ago
Rob Gronkowski (hamstring) just told me he will return to Patriots practice this afternoon.

Courtney Fallon ?@CourtneyFallon_ 19m19 minutes ago
Gronkowski was a limited prax participant all last week, so it remains to be seen if his status improves this week. No apparent set backs.


I am sure I'm as frustrated as the rest. The reality, though, is that my goal for the first 4 weeks was to be tied for the division lead. As that has taken a turn for the better, playing things safe seems wise.
 
My question remains, does Gronk deserve to be the highest paid tight end in football even though he
is guaranteed to miss games every year? Do you include a bonus in his contract for games
played?

Here's the list of tight ends who have been more productive than Gronk, not on a per-game-played basis, but overall over the past 6 seasons (or over any 6-season stretch, by any TE, in NFL history):







:crickets:

One of the best Game, Set, Match posts ever!
 
Kevin Duffy ?@KevinRDuffy 34s34 seconds ago
First drill...Rob Gronkowski does not participate. He held pads with RBs while TEs and WRs caught passes and ran through the pads.
 
You guys routinely make fun of Felger but some of you are almost worse than him:

My question remains, does Gronk deserve to be the highest paid tight end in football even though he
is guaranteed to miss games every year? Do you include a bonus in his contract for games
played?

Yes, you pay him. End of story. Go troll somewhere else.

I don't really understand how professional athletes deal with hamstring injuries so often. I toured professionally for a few years in a performing arts company (I was an acrobat and a base for lifts, often holding 3 - 4 people in the air at a time; very similar to Cirque du Soliel), and I also ran a gym for a number of years. We spent a lot of time maintaining balanced muscle development so that we didn't overstrain joints or muscle groups. Proper strength and conditioning, combined with adequate warming up and cool down, stretching, etc, should nearly eliminate muscle strains.

I get that injuries happen, but in football, it seems like everyone has a hammy problem at one time or another. Kind of weird.

With all due respect to your "professional" career but you are as qualified to compare your experience to a professional football player as any part time runner is. We are talking about bodies that are on the verge of what ligaments and muscles can support when cutting quickly, accelerating and most importantly absorbing hits. Again, I am not trying to be personal here but the requirements for professional muscle mountains like him are different than anything else.

Hamstring injuries also are generally avoidable through proper conditioning and proper warming up. This is frustrating. Makes you wonder if Gronk ever will get through a full season without time on the shelf.

That being said, specifically in the case of Gronk this is the first time that he has tweaked a muscle either since he was drafted or in a long, long time. Either way I can't remember a case where he missed time due to something like that.

As usual I give my default question when those stupid threads show up.. give me one example of an avoidable injury Gronk had since he joined us. He had a high ankle sprain after another player fell right into him from behind in the 2011 AFCCG, he broke his arm in a freak accident during a PAT in 2012, rebroke the same arm in another accident (2012) when he fell on it in exactly the wrong angle and then had his knee destroyed by TJ Ward (2014). Finally, he missed one game after "divine intervention" in last year's Denver game. I don't see how anyone can get frustrated with the player for things that are out of his control.

He played a bit vs MIA on the last game of the year. He was medically cleared. The question is by whom? The popular theory is that Gill was an enabler and was rubber stamping players to play but his departure was more about MGH politics than NEP player health.

Yeah, I am sure that Gill risked his license and reputation just to help out his employees at the Patriots. Because that's what people that worked their ass through med school and then slowly climbed the career ladder in a major US hospital do.. risk it all so the Pats have a better shot at another SB.

Some of the "analysis" being thrown around just seems absurd to me. Gronk went six seasons without missing a game due to any kind of muscle injury, missing time only due to blunt force injuries to bones and ligaments, which hardly seem "generally avoidable." Suddenly after missing this one game, people are predicting his demise? The way I see it, the most likely outcome here is that he returns soon at nearly full health and then either stays healthy or suffers some kind of completely unrelated and unpredictable injury. I'd love to see some explanation about how this is some major signal that he won't be healthy in future seasons.

Bingo. Thank you..

What pisses me off about this topic is that we have a player who is still young, is already considered to be on the way to be the GOAT TE and breaks records every damn year. And, yet, people think he might be not worth a contract that reflects all of that because he has been through freak accidents in the past. Insane..
 
Ha! I received a message this afternoon from a cousin who was asking friends/family members for ideas on what their hashtag should be for their wedding next month. My immediate thought was "what the hell do you need a hashtag for a wedding for?" It just seemed kind of...fake to me, that's all.

The worst part of the whole craze is that most people don't even use them correctly. I have no problem using a key phrase or word, as twitter intended. The annoying part is seeing people misuse them by having one, long, run-on phrase, the failure to break things down with lack of capitalization within that phrase, and the odd "need" to have 5-6 different hashtags for the same idea. It's douchey as hell. A good portion of people using them don't even know what the hell they're doing, aside from trying to look cool.

#pedantic
 
Yeah, I am sure that Gill risked his license and reputation just to help out his employees at the Patriots. Because that's what people that worked their ass through med school and then slowly climbed the career ladder in a major US hospital do.. risk it all so the Pats have a better shot at another SB.

I didn't say he did.
 
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