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I moved here in 2003 and my townie buddies who have been here since dirt was invented (one of them Jewish) as denied membership told me this.

With that said they are now under new ownership and welcome anyone and everyone - as long as you have $50k and can pay $10k a year :eek:

That's some serious cash. You won't see me there.
 
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One of the craziest things regarding race I have ever witnessed was when I was in AIT in Alabama. The church I chose to attend while there had just finished voting whether or not to allow black Christians to continue to go to that church. ????? I could not believe it when they told me. Apparently the richer members wanted the church segregated and after the election they left and built their own church.

That was in 1988.

It was comforting to know the elitist lost the vote but dumbfounding to learn that the vote happened in the first place.

A year later I was stationed in Texas and attended a similar church but it had zero minority members. I don't think there was even a tanned white guy in there. So I asked "are there any black members?" " They don't live around here".

Bizarre experience to say the least.

Stationed at Wichta Falls?
 
Uh oh guys, Eric Reid just sat for the anthem too. IT'S SPREADING, GET YOUR PITCHFORKS AND SHOVELS.
 
This is on par with labeling blacks as criminals or apes, or Muslims as terrorists.

Imagine if a player wore a shirt or socks depicting one of the above. Bet they'd face discipline from the NFL.

This Veggie-tale looking idiot better not get signed by a team after getting cut.
I think he's done. He's become a major distraction and hasn't performed well enough to overcome the publicity. Not sure anyone will touch him.
 
That means possibly three teams will consider him. He might be Raiders-bound.
Naw, Derek Carr is the real deal (for them), CK is way too different of a QB

With that said, Tim Tebow got a second/third chance, im sure someone will kick the tires on him
 
So what ended up being the response to Kaepernick at that game?
 
This is on par with labeling blacks as criminals or apes, or Muslims as terrorists.

Imagine if a player wore a shirt or socks depicting one of the above. Bet they'd face discipline from the NFL.

This Veggie-tale looking idiot better not get signed by a team after getting cut.

You're the second person here to make this insanely tone-deaf comparison. People don't choose to be black. They choose to be cops. Police have earned a bad reputation by committing heinous crimes, getting caught, and still not facing consequences. Generalizing like with the socks is a bit much, but it's valid for a black person to fear and antagonize police whereas it's not valid for some random person to depict black people as apes. The fact that people here are so quick to make this comparison is scary.
 
You're the second person here to make this insanely tone-deaf comparison. People don't choose to be black. The fact that people here are so quick to make this comparison is scary.

They choose to be cops so they can protect and serve the community and put their life on the line every day.

They don't choose to become cops so they can kill black people for no reason whatsoever - that's the only "scary" and dangerous belief here. They're not "getting away with murder" in most of these high profile cases. I bet Kaepernick thinks Michael Brown was innocent and the cop is one of those who he thinks got away with murder. That's the incident that really kickstarted this Black Lives Matter movement.

They choose to be cops. Police have earned a bad reputation by committing heinous crimes, getting caught, and still not facing consequences. Generalizing like with the socks is a bit much, but it's valid for a black person to fear and antagonize police whereas it's not valid for some random person to depict black people as apes.

So with this logic... if a black person chooses to be a criminal, then they be depicted as an ape? Valid?

Cops are killed by blacks at a higher rate than cops kill blacks, by the way. You wanna talk about bad reputations, heinous crimes and make generalizations... look at the statistics and disproportionality.

Also, in the few cases per year where a black person is killed by a cop for absurd, unequivocally unjustified reasons (just as white and Hispanics are too) - it's a matter of the cop being incompetent as hell/overreacting/trigger happy idiot in the heat of the moment. They often do go to jail, too. (see: Walter Scott/Michael Sleger, Alabama cop, South Carolina gas station cop.. Those are just off the top of my head)

To make the baseless assumption that it's because the cop(s) in each incident are racist - is absurd. If a cop truly wanted to kill a black kid as a result of racism, he wouldn't do it in a public park, gas station, etc. with a high likelihood of people around.
 
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They choose to be cops so they can protect and serve the community and put their life on the line every day.

... eh. I mean, I'm sure many do, I don't in any way intend to generalize all cops. I can only speak to the ones I know, and looking back at the high school classmates of mine who went on to be cops, I severely doubt they were doing it for any kind of selfless reason.

Cops are killed by blacks at a higher rate than cops kill blacks, by the way. You wanna talk about bad reputations, heinous crimes and make generalizations... look at the statistics and disproportionality.

So what? What does one have to do with the other? Are black people not allowed to complain about being murdered by cops until they're statistically more likely to be murdered by a cop than a criminal? Because if so, that's an astonishingly low standard that you're holding the police to.

Maybe I'm misreading you, but it seems like you're looking at black people as some weird, monolithic, borg-like hive mind rather than a collection of individuals much like any other. If there's a pattern of criminals killing me and a pattern of cops killing me as well, then I'm going to object to both. The difference is that, in theory at least, I should be able to hold police accountable since they're supposed to serve the public. Go explain to Philando Castile that it's a shame he was murdered, but since he was statistically more likely to be killed by some random other black guy that he's probably never met, outrage over his murder is misplaced and invalid.
 
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So what ended up being the response to Kaepernick at that game?

I watched it live on TV and didn't notice any major reaction. No idea what it was actually like in the stadium though. With Eric Reid and now Jeremy Lane joining him, it's looking like this may become pretty commonplace going forward.
 
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