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We can only babysit people like this for so long. As mentionned, he had chances others wish they were given. But ZERO accountability catches up on a person. Especially a bad person such as LP.
 
And nothing of value was lost.

I want to feel sympathy for the dead, I really do, but he's one case where I really can't. He was given every chance to get right, and he just didn't. I get sympathizing with people who clearly suffer from mental illnesses, but only up to a point. For him that point was when he decided to go and kill someone.
 
Unfortunately, he got help throughout his life, help to get past all of the checkpoints in life that every normal person is held accountable to....

Right. Like I said, he didn't fall through the cracks, people shoved him through them. It's a tragedy only because his life could have been very different if he had ever faced any sort of accountability, and if anyone had sought to get him help for his mental health instead of ignoring it so he could suit for the national championship game.
 
And nothing of value was lost.

I want to feel sympathy for the dead, I really do, but he's one case where I really can't. He was given every chance to get right, and he just didn't. I get sympathizing with people who clearly suffer from mental illnesses, but only up to a point. For him that point was when he decided to go and kill someone.

We can say that he did bad things while also acknowledging there were a lot of people like Osborne who enabled his behavior, and, had they been more concerned with the mental stability and violent tendencies of a young man instead of his innate talent as a football player, may have prevented him from ending up dead in a prison cell by his own hands at age 40.
 
I trust suicide reports outside prison. I'm more dubious of them inside.

But whether this was suicide or murder doesn't really affect most of the other things people are saying in this thread.
 
We can say that he did bad things while also acknowledging there were a lot of people like Osborne who enabled his behavior, and, had they been more concerned with the mental stability and violent tendencies of a young man instead of his innate talent as a football player, may have prevented him from ending up dead in a prison cell by his own hands at age 40.

  1. Barbara Thomas got him out of what was basically an orphanage and helped him during his teens
  2. Osborne kicked Phillips off the team and required him to get counseling as one condition of his return
  3. The Rams required him to get counseling, gave him a curfew and a drink limit
  4. A friend got him going to church and off the sauce
 
You never really expected it to end any other way. I sometimes wonder whether we will wake up to a story about Hernandez like this. Realising the only way you leave prison is in a box must have an affect. In the UK that is only given to the worst of the worst...seems more par of the course in the USA. That isn't a complaint, just a statement of fact.

In the US there are 3 major groups in prison. Latino/African Americans/ and white. The power behind bars mostly goes in that order as well. Its very likely Aaron Hernandes has a lot of control in his current environment.
 
The craziness for him though started when he was just a teenager. That Nebraska team was totally out of control.

Same can be said for those Florida teams under urban Meyer. Or those Miami teams under Jimmy Johnson/Dennis Erickson. But on Saturdays those teams were focused and took care of business.
 
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