Patriots Legal Counsel Rebuttal of Wells Report

[Deus Irae]

I'm a lawyer and I agree. But in these circumstances, I think there is a goal of having Goodell appoint a truly independent arbitrator to hear the appeal.

I think the report was aimed at the other owners, but I'm just spitballing at this point.

 

[SVN]

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-...y-in-question-robert-kraft-comes-out-swinging

From my viewpoint, this comes down to legacy and reputation -- of his family's name and the Patriots franchise. Both have been called into question by the NFL based on the severity of penalty.

To Kraft, who is steadfast in his belief that the club did nothing wrong and that science best explains the air-pressure drop in footballs, that's worth fighting for.

How far he'll take the fight remains to be seen. Would he really take the NFL to court? I'm not so sure.

But by creating this website to aggressively counter the Wells report, Kraft is doing what he said he initially wouldn't -- fighting the league and extending the public debate. It might prove to be futile, as he initially predicted.

Yet with legacy and reputation the catalysts, this is how personal it's become

 

[Kdo5]

Maybe they felt it was worth combating the narrative now. The Pats have been getting savaged pretty good in the public arena.

But it doesn't help. They should've known that the text explanation would be the big story and they dropped the ball. I think there is a very good chance that is indeed the context of the texts. But most will laugh at the explanation and use it to deride the rest of the counter argument, which is pretty damn convincing.

 

[Ring 6]

Just read the entire report.
It is a total Home Run.

 

[Deus Irae]

Maybe they felt it was worth combating the narrative now. The Pats have been getting savaged pretty good in the public arena.

They're going to get savaged more now. Those text explanations may be 100% true, but they are unconvincing without evidence. Even the November text is just a bolster to a possibility rather than a dispositive rebuttal.

 

[Rob0729]

Mark Daniels is hitting it out the park on his Twitter account. While Zo and Betrand are focusing on the stupidity, Daniels is finding real dirt on Wells:

Wells had all of the texts with McNally and Jastresmki when he got hired. He overlooked them and that's why he didn't ask McNally about them

McNally was interviewed by the Wells team for seven hours.

Patriots were told "barring unanticipated circumstances, individuals would only be interviewed by the Wells investigators one time."

After the Jets game, Brady "did not want another incident of vast over-inflation" asked them to bring a copy of the rule book to the refs

Before the balls came in for halftime measurements, the Pats balls were being used while the Colts footballs were being held in trash bags.

"The Patriots ball boys did not use bags, thereby exposing the footballs more to the rain."

When the Colts tested the Patriots ball on the side line it was "in violation of Rule 2."

Brady told investigators that "the consistency of the footballs and their tactile feel are most important to him" than psi

https://twitter.com/MarkDanielsPJ

 

[Bruins29]

But most will laugh at the explanation and use it to deride the rest of the counter argument, which is pretty damn convincing.

And those that shall do that should also answer to why it wasnt in the Wells report in the first place.

 

[Bruins29]

So the Colts broke the rules? Where is the outrage?

What a phucking joke this country is.

 

[Deus Irae]

One thing seems obvious to me. This marks the end of the Goodell/Kraft relationship.

 

[Kdo5]

And those that shall do that should also answer to why it wasnt in the Wells report in the first place.

I understand. But if this was aimed at the public it is more likely to hurt our case in that arena, as BS as the report is.

 

[Danger Zone]

Patriot footballs left outside in the rain.

Colt footballs left in a trashbag.

Patriots played 4:54 before the end of the half.

Colts 9 seconds.. a kneel down.


Stuff like this matters.

 

[SVN]

And those that shall do that should also answer to why it wasnt in the Wells report in the first place.

When has anyone looked at everyting objectively. They are going to only concerntrate on what the pats said which they can deride and mock.
I feel this report is good for pats fans but not going to help public perception. They have to now feed this narattive with more questions. Fight it out in the court and appeal and the maybe release what happened. A lot of us pats fans are reading this and loving it as expected but dont think its helping our case one bit right now in terms of the appeal or public perception and thats what matters.

 

[Bruins29]

I understand. But if this was aimed at the public it is more likely to hurt our case in that arena, as BS as the report is.

Of course but they have already made up their mind. About the only thing that could change it at this point is the NFL admitting they tried to set the Pats up. And, even that wouldn't change a thing.

Jealously is a powerful force. People kill other people all the time over it. That is all this is.

 

[TheBostonStraggler]

Woa.....this is a big deal.

1st reaction- lawyers will use to state their side of the story in class-action lawsuits. Not saying the Pats are filing one but its a common legal practice used to create a narrative that is purposed for baselining their argument meant for a wide audience.

You do not do this unless you PLAN on following through on suing a company.

This is not a scare tactic.

Keep in mind this, the Patriots need to create a 50.01% doubt. A report that uses "more probable than not" was said to create a 50.01% guilt already. But when that threshold is used it is by nature already out on a ledge (especially when it requires opinion based interpretations of the evidence).

This is Round 1 and we just saw the Patriots absolutely neutralize the Wells' report science. Consider that our science was closer to an absolute conclusion too. Well's science actually all but said 'we aren't very sure' and Wells is married to that.
Sure it may not register with the dumb public but make not mistake, the science portion of the Wells Report is now no longer 50.01% guilty. No jury, as Wells said "he would convict", would consider the science as evidence of likely guilt.

Now we have an explanation of "Deflator". Not sure it is a great one yet, however, if there is multiple instances waiting in the wings where the term was used as a 'weight' thing, the "Deflator" thing is now neutralized below 50.01%.

Put that together: Science proves nothing + "Deflator" moniker characterizing illegal behavior is neutralized = Wells Report absolutely does not rise to the level of 50.01% guilty (IMHO significantly below it). That is all we need! Now Brady pursues legal action under the guise of proving he is innocent, more and more Emperor Goody's Stasi is forced to defend a declaration of guilt that will more and more cause them to make statements that are easily assailed. Hopefully there will be a time that Emperor Goody will take stock of the premise of fighting for guilt when guilt is too far from certain, and start to wonder if there is any upside for him to do it. It is at that moment we have won the big victory...

 

[aluminum seats]

Goodell is a true believer and a crusader, and his office is being derided in this response. This response is just going to piss him off.

Might not be such a bad thing...arrogant bullies can be thrown off their game with a surprise punch now and then.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Goodell is a true believer and a crusader, and his office is being derided in this response. This response is just going to piss him off.

...which is why this response is perfect.

His convictions and true beliefs are what continue to cloud his ability to rationalize, reason, execute on basic common sense and see the big picture. Let him get emotional. It certainly won't bring him a greater sense of clarity and better judgement. It'll bring an enhanced version of his true self with faults that glow brighter for everyone to see.

Plus hes screwing with the Patriots brand and that it bad for business. The NFL is labeling his franchise as cheaters and new (and current) markets don't like cheaters.

 

[Kdo5]

Of course but they have already made up their mind. About the only thing that could change it at this point is the NFL admitting they tried to set the Pats up. And, even that wouldn't change a thing.

Jealously is a powerful force. People kill other people all the time over it. That is all this is.

I know but if it won't sway the stupid public, this might as well have been saved for the appeals.

 

[DarrylS]

Do not have the attention span to fully focus on every detail, but reviewing the highlights brings a huge smile..

Probably the only time I smiled about anything Pats in about a week..

Did not think Robert J. had it in him, really proud of our owner to have initiated this.. obvious that the Wells report made the facts fit the already determined conclusion..

This is the first time since this happened that I really believe that Brady will be on the field opening night..

 

[patman12]

I think the report was aimed at the other owners, but I'm just spitballing at this point.

In the hopes of turning the tide against Roger and lead to his ouster?

 

[FrodoBagginz]

We don't and shouldn't care what the public thinks. They hated us before and they hate us now. You can't change the mind of low information low IQ idiots.