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The Bitter Tears of the American Christian Supermajority


Obviously, Christians have fared well throughout the centuries and their gain has often come by committing terrible crimes against American Indians, Jews, blacks and others. But, their victimhood is a source of strength for them, its at the root of a religion where Jesus died for our sins. If they are not victims, they cannot be martyrs, and thus cannot Christians at some level. That said, I do think the vast majority of Christians today do not subscribe to the victimhood theory. It's mostly a phenomenon of the Christian right.

None of those acts were committed in the name of Christianity Patters, so your comments are foolish.

I'm a Christian but if I commit murder, it is not an act of Christianity...

"Indians, Jews, blacks and others...."!!!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes: :rofl:
 
It's remarks like that that helps fuel the persecution feeling I think. In fact your statement is what's ironic.

I bet everlong was born a Christian too....

I think part of the issue with non-Christians is the amount of marketing corporations generate towards Christians. If you look at Christmas...or even open up an add now to April 21st, you'll be bombarded with Easter ads.

But no one can be upset at Christians for the amount of attention corporations give them because that's just about money. So when you open your Rite Aid or CVS flyer this week and see all the "Easter Candy" ads, don't blame Christians!! As a matter of fact, no one can really sweat anything about the amount of air time Christian holidays get. It brings in the money I guess....
 
Also, WTF is a super majority? Is it about 75%?

You can't sweat that terminology as it's not a bad thing. It just is what it is.

There is nothing wrong with the fact that caucasians represent around the same percentage of our population.

Again, say it after me....Super-Majority....see, not so bad at all. Don't ever think of it as a negative term, because it's not.
 
Maybe too many Americans are guilty of this, but I frikkn LOVE this Eagles song!!!


Get Over It

I turn on the tube and what do I see
A whole lotta people cryin' "Don't blame me"
They point their crooked little fingers ar everybody else
Spend all their time feelin' sorry for themselves
Victim of this, victim of that
Your momma's too thin; your daddy's too fat

Get over it
Get over it
All this whinin' and cryin' and pitchin' a fit
Get over it, get over it

You say you haven't been the same since you had your little crash
But you might feel better if I gave you some cash
The more I think about it, Old Billy was right
Let's kill all the lawyers, kill 'em tonight
You don't want to work, you want to live like a king
But the big, bad world doesn't owe you a thing

Get over it
Get over it
If you don't want to play, then you might as well split
Get over it, Get over it

It's like going to confession every time I hear you speak
You're makin' the most of your losin' streak
Some call it sick, but I call it weak

You drag it around like a ball and chain
You wallow in the guilt; you wallow in the pain
You wave it like a flag, you wear it like a crown
Got your mind in the gutter, bringin' everybody down
Complain about the present and blame it on the past
I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass

Get over it
Get over it
All this *****in' and moanin' and pitchin' a fit
Get over it, get over it

Get over it
Get over it
It's gotta stop sometime, so why don't you quit
Get over it, get over it​
 
You can't sweat that terminology as it's not a bad thing. It just is what it is.

There is nothing wrong with the fact that caucasians represent around the same percentage of our population.

Again, say it after me....Super-Majority....see, not so bad at all. Don't ever think of it as a negative term, because it's not.

Not quite sure that caucasians have a "super majority"... believe that the "asians" hold that distinction.
 
Not quite sure that caucasians have a "super majority"... believe that the "asians" hold that distinction.

Do you live in the United States? We are discussing the US only DarrylS....
 
Do you live in the United States? We are discussing the US only DarrylS....

You would be correct, but still contest a caucasian "super majority", that is changing..
 
None of those acts were committed in the name of Christianity Patters, so your comments are foolish.

I'm a Christian but if I commit murder, it is not an act of Christianity...

"Indians, Jews, blacks and others...."!!!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes: :rofl:

That wasn't really the point I was trying to make, and I was talking historically. At any rate, Christianity certainly did gain much of its power over time through military action and violence and yet there is still a group that yearns to be victims. There are many examples of violence in history: the Spanish inquisition, the killing of Native Americans by Puritans; the stoning of witches by Puritans; and the support southern churches gave slavery in their sermons, especially during the Civil War.

The vast majority of Christians (and I said that in the post you're commenting on) don't identify with that part of Christian history or the pockets of Christian violence today. But, this thread was about the Christian who needs to be a victim (which I said I think really only exists among a relatively small group of white conservative Christians), and my point was n agreement with the article, which points out, "Who can resist the deliciousness of having both the upper hand of power and the righteousness of the oppressed?" -- a good description of those Christians in the US who see themselves as victims.
 
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African Americans love Jesus, they sing wonderful Gospel Songs about how he died on the Cross for us, when Mahalia Jackson sang "He's Got The Whole World In His Hands" black people openly cried, MLK loved Jesus he mentioned him in every civil rights speech he ever made, MLK was a man of Christianity.
MLK must weep in heaven when he looks down upon us, when he sees his beloved Cross trashed and frowned upon.
Forgive Them Lord:

Next week lets do a thread on Islam, OK.
 
You would be correct, but still contest a caucasian "super majority", that is changing..

Of course it is and it's neither a bad nor a good thing. It's just evolution and it can't be stopped.

So why did you say Asians have a super majority?
 
That wasn't really the point I was trying to make, and I was talking historically. At any rate, Christianity certainly did gain much of its power over time through military action and violence and yet there is still a group that years to be victims. There are many examples of violence in history: the Spanish inquisition, the killing of Indians by Puritans; the stoning of witches by Puritans; and the support southern churches gave slavery in their sermons, especially during the Civil War.

The vast majority of Christians (and I said that in the post you're commenting on) don't identify with that part of Christian history or the pockets of Christian violence today. But, this thread was about the Christian who need to be a victim (which I said I think really only exists among a relatively small group of white conservative Christians), and my point was n agreement with the article, which points out, "Who can resist the deliciousness of having both the upper hand of power and the righteousness of the oppressed?" -- a good description of those Christians in the US who see themselves as victims.

I agree that only a small number of Americans really want Christianity to "rule" our nation. And those that do are pretty messed up. I think anyone that wants their religion to rule is has some major issues.

Religion is dangerous....but personal faith is isn't. That's my opinion. As long as someone's beliefs are peaceful and loving, I'm fine with it.
 
Interesting read on the "persecution" of American Christians...

The bitter tears of the American Christian supermajority | Al Jazeera America

I'd be interested to discuss this rationally as a political phenomenon, but if need be, would not mind it going over to the religion forum. However, if so, I humbly request that all the "war on christmas" and similar threads be banished there as well. Then we'll be in big trouble if we want to talk about Hobby Lobby n such too... so anyway - what do you guys make of this article?

Please do read the article before responding. Here's one of three cases cited at the article's outset...



PFnV

Was someone in the mood to stir the pot last evening?:p
 
It's remarks like that that helps fuel the persecution feeling I think. In fact your statement is what's ironic.

Our resident head Christian RI Pats Fan would tell you that people with progressive spirituality are more evil than the Westboro Baptist Church. That we aren't truly spiritual and that we all are murderers or support murderers because we by default support abortion and thus murder even though I am not pro-abortion. How's that for persecution? The two largest religions in Christianity and Islam are pretty quick to ask for tolerance but not eager to give it. So I stand by my statement that it's ironic.
 
Facebook is mostly just visable from and to people you've "friended," isn't it? So, if you're seeing negative and hateful things about Christians on your facebook page, I'd have to guess that they are being put there by people you know. If it's offensive to you - unfriend them. Don't follow them. Don't let them follow you. Easy-peasy.

I had a friend request from a girl I went to high school with....turned out that she had a thing against Jews. I simply unfriended her. Not a problem. She's entitled to her views - I'm entitled to block them.

There are internet heroes on FaceBook and Twitter that are anti-everything. I totally agree with just washing your hands of anybody who's hateful and that just because a few morons are doing hateful things you can't say see look everybody hates <insert group name here>.
 
I bet everlong was born a Christian too....

I think part of the issue with non-Christians is the amount of marketing corporations generate towards Christians. If you look at Christmas...or even open up an add now to April 21st, you'll be bombarded with Easter ads.

But no one can be upset at Christians for the amount of attention corporations give them because that's just about money. So when you open your Rite Aid or CVS flyer this week and see all the "Easter Candy" ads, don't blame Christians!! As a matter of fact, no one can really sweat anything about the amount of air time Christian holidays get. It brings in the money I guess....

I was born of no religion however you're basically correct in that I was raised Catholic. I left that religion for a lot of reasons but at the end of the day mostly because I didn't believe in their teachings.

I disagree that it has anything to do with the attention companies pay to Christians. It's how self-important and self-righteous they think they are. They want everybody to believe what they believe and if you don't they can't see beyond it. I really don't care if a person is Catholic, Buddhist, Muslim, Jewish........whatever, good for them. Just walk the walk and be a good person and STFU when it comes to trying to make everybody like you.

Also Christmas, Easter and other religious holidays aren't even originally Christian holidays. They stole the idea from the Pagans. Christmas was the celebration of winter and Easter of spring. The Pagans were very in touch with the Earth and it's changes.
 
Our resident head Christian RI Pats Fan would tell you that people with progressive spirituality are more evil than the Westboro Baptist Church. That we aren't truly spiritual and that we all are murderers or support murderers because we by default support abortion and thus murder even though I am not pro-abortion. How's that for persecution? The two largest religions in Christianity and Islam are pretty quick to ask for tolerance but not eager to give it. So I stand by my statement that it's ironic.

Shhhh, quiet you, RIPF espouses radical RIGHT-WING viewpoints, so the crowd here just tries to do their best Joe Paterno impersonation when it comes to his extremist comments.

It takes a considerably less inflammatory remark from a resident left-winger for the crowd to get all bent out of shape in outrage and pseudo-grandstanding.
 
Shhhh, quiet you, RIPF espouses radical RIGHT-WING viewpoints, so the crowd here just tries to do their best Joe Paterno impersonation when it comes to his extremist comments.

It takes a considerably less inflammatory remark from a resident left-winger for the crowd to get all bent out of shape in outrage and pseudo-grandstanding.




Well as an ex catholic I can tell you that RI Pats is a mainstream PRACTICING Catholic who understands the tenets of the faith quite well. His views are not at all extreme in the context of what the teaching of his church are.

You attacks are a pretty good example of the hatred of mainstream christians held by the left.

Congrats.
 
Well as an ex catholic I can tell you that RI Pats is a mainstream PRACTICING Catholic who understands the tenets of the faith quite well. His views are not at all extreme in the context of what the teaching of his church are.

As an ex-catholic whose entire family (-2 children) consists of mainstream PRATICING Catholics, RI Pat is NOT representative of the faith.

On the contrary, he is an embarrassment.
 
RI Pats is a good man, just like Martin Luther King Jr, they love their God and their religion.

Faith in ones religion can be very comforting to the believer.
 


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