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Miles Austin looks to have been released. Pats interest?

Has actual nagging injury problems and isn't close to the same player he was. If he came on the cheap he'd be worth a Michael Jenkins/Donald Brown type look-see. But nothing more than that.
 
If i'm Bill then i'm definitely trying to get Miles and Peppers on the cheap
 
Has actual nagging injury problems and isn't close to the same player he was. If he came on the cheap he'd be worth a Michael Jenkins/Donald Brown type look-see. But nothing more than that.


And people complain about amendola being injury prone. This guy is just as bad if not worse. He will give you a solid 6 games
 
You put Belichick up on this pedestal as if he is flawless and he is not. The reality is that $7.5 million is sitting in a holding cell at Bristol County Correctional Facility. Everyone will give the how the Patriots were supposed to know; and I think well here is a guy who was allegedly pulling drive by shootings in Boston, so obviously he was not keeping it low key. Therefore, I do not give them the token pass that you and the rest give for that misjudgment.

Second 95% of the personnel acquisition decision we have made in the past five years has absolutely failed –

- Jonathan Fanene
- Brandon Lloyd
- Chad Johnson
- Albert Haynesworth
- Shaun Ellis
- Will Allen
- Adrian Wilson
- Danny Amendola
- Greg Salas
- Michael Jenkins
- Jabar Gaffney
- Donte Stallworth
- Anthony Gonzalez
- Jake Ballard
- Steve Gregory
- Tommy Kelly

Third look at the wasted draft picks that are no longer on this roster or if they are on the roster they are fringe players –

- Ras-I Dowling
- Jermaine Cunningham
- Jake Bequette
- Ron Brace
- Pat Chung
- Tavon Wilson
- Darius Butler
- Aaron Hernandez
- Brandon Spikes
- Taylor Price
- Brandon Tate

I am not crying over spilt milk here MG, you just think that because Tom Brady goes out there and wills this team to victory week in and week out that Belichick does this grand job constructing the roster, but that could not be any further from the truth, the past five years have been extremely poor.

First and foremost, you need a cranial/rectal inversion. You're complaining about Hernandez? You don't even seem to understand that all the issues seem to have taken place AFTER he signed his contract. Including the supposed double murder.

Next, you aren't even close to naming ALL the signings that have taken place in the last 5 years. Furthermore, you don't even bother to mention how other teams fared during that same period. You also are doing a great job complaining about signings that were minor deals. Like Gonzalez, Jenkins, Ellis, Allen and trying to make them into these failures that the Pats spent huge money on. Hell, guys like Salas, Stallworth, Gaffney, Jenkins, Ballard, etc, were all low risk/high reward potentials. So what that they didn't pan out? The Pats weren't relying on those guys to take starting reps. They were looking for guys who were trying to resurrect their careers.

Some notable signings/additions you've seem to have over-looks:
Ninkovich
Arrington
Donald Thomas
Brandon Bolden
BenJarvus Green-Ellis
Chris Jones
Joe Vellano
Dane Fletcher
Legarette Blount
Aqib Talib


Lastly, in the last 5 years, the Pats have had 47 draft picks. Of those 47 picks, the Pats only have 20 of those players still on the roster. Only 1 from the 2009 draft in Vollmer and 2 from the 2010 draft in McCourty and Gronkowski. But have you checked how other teams compare?

But seriously, go do your complaining in another thread this isn't the one for it.
 
And people complain about amendola being injury prone. This guy is just as bad if not worse

Amendola misses games but his injuries are unrelated. He's a victim of bad luck. Austin, on the other hand, is a victim of fragile hamstrings, an injury which will never heal completely.
 
Yeah, I'm still pissed at BB for not drafting Suh and JJ Watt to fix the defensive line along with Megatron and Fitzgerald and for not signing Deion Sanders when he was a free agent. And why did he let Wallace sign with the Dolphins? What an idiot. Just think, if he was any smarter, the Pats could have gone 8-8 instead of 12-4 and have had a better waiver claim and draft position.

You ignored every player that I listed and started rattling off a bunch of irrelevant names that do not matter to this conversation at all.

If you have a point, come up with a better way to convey it because this just sounds like someone who is reaching in desperation.
 
What is his success rate on personnel decision over the past 3-4 seasons? UFAs, trades, draft picks. Put all the names together with the exception of UDFAs then tell me what percent are good and what percent are bad.

I am not saying Belichick needs to be replaced, I am saying that his current approach needs to change, it may have worked for him in the early 2000s but it is not working anymore.

It's amazing how you move the goal posts.. You go from 5 seasons to 3-4 seasons.

Why don't you go do that.. In another thread.
 
It's amazing how you move the goal posts.. You go from 5 seasons to 3-4 seasons.

Why don't you go do that.. In another thread.

This guy can ruin any thread man. Ugh..
 
The sky is falling crew comes out every year like clockwork when some team like the Browns overpays for the mediocre player they convinced themselves was a superstar in disguise and really wanted the Patriots to sign.

The sky is falling crew saw their beloved team completely outclassed in the AFC Championship game. They were hoping the Patriots could hold onto
their own good free agents and add a couple of good ones from other
teams to close the gap. So far they have done neither. They have
chosen to let their own UFAs test the market and seem to have no master plan to improve themselves. Did they talk to anyone during the last 4 days?
 
Peppers released

Someone remind me how many Super Bowls, playoff games, division championships, winning seasons, games, etc the Bears won after overpaying Peppers the last couple years
 
What was your plan? Oh that is right you did not even have one, it is easy to comment on others when you lack the fortitude to put yourself out there.

It's entirely possible he didn't have the 4 hours to write a detailed narcissistic fantasy post-novel about what would happen in his imaginary future.
 
The sky is falling crew saw their beloved team completely outclassed in the AFC Championship game. They were hoping the Patriots could hold onto

their own good free agents and add a couple of good ones from other

teams to close the gap. So far they have done neither. They have

chosen to let their own UFAs test the market and seem to have no master plan to improve themselves. Did they talk to anyone during the last 4 days?


You know for a fact the have no master plan? They are just going to wing it and see what happens? Ya they are all playing Battlefield 4 on PS4 right now. Better things to do. 3 hours into FA and no plan. I wish this organization would move to LA
 
They do not have to look to the future they could have their world-class CIA level security team dig into the player and see what type of people he is associating with. Hernandez was dancing on tables at Rumor Tuesday with a gun in his waistband, do not pretend that he was at church, and took a wrong turn all of a sudden. Ignorance is not an acceptable excuse.

Needless to say you have ignored every other poor decision and decided to focus solely on the one that you could somewhat excuse. I am not bashing Belichick because I do not like him, heck he is one of my all-time idols but his decision making in recent years has been suspect.

1. You're dramatically overstating the level of information that the Pats have available to them. CIA-level? They talk to his past coaches, his family if they can, and maybe some old acquaintances if possible. Beyond that, what do they have access to beyond the standard background check? They'll look more deeply into his background than your employer will into yours, simply because of the money involved, but it's not like they have access to his web history and a comprehensive list of all known acquaintances. The bottom line is that the Pats have no idea what most of their players are doing most of the time that they're outside the facility, and that's typically not a problem. That's life as an employer.

2. Look at the number of players in the NFL who have arrests relating to gun possession and/or assault on their records. It's a huge number, and every single one of them has more red flags re: his capacity to commit violent crimes than Hernandez did at the time of the murder.

I know it's tempting to assume that there were warning signs indicating that he was a deranged lunatic, but look at the facts. His record consisted of a rough upbringing, possible juvenile gang affiliations from his juvenile years, and a couple of failed pot tests in college. Yeah, that puts him more at-risk than someone like Tom Brady or Jerod Mayo, but let's be realistic. How many NFL players fall into the exact same risk categories? A ton.

It's an uncomfortable truth, but it is what it is. Any criteria by which the Pats could have been reasonably expected to foresee this also disqualifies a ton of other players that the Pats could really use, and 99% of the time it doesn't make a difference. Have you ever advocated that the Pats sign a player who's been arrested for a violent crime? I know that I have, and if you have as well, then there's really no grounds on which to say that they should have predicted that Hernandez, with no real warning signs, would turn out to be the guy that he is.
 
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