So Michael Sam Is Gay, Who Cares? Can He Rush The QB?

[PATS16N0]

Just a hunch, I freely admit that I could be wrong. I doubt it, though. I bet that you'd be right at home on this list:

Top 10 Anti-Gay Politicians Caught Being Gay: Anti-Gay Activists Out of The Closet

Yeah, I get it and know, and saw a long time ago. When a homosexual wants to attack the character of someone else, they accuse them of being...

...a homosexual.

lol.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Yeah, I get it and know, and saw a long time ago. When a homosexual wants to attack the character of someone else, they accuse them of being...

...a homosexual.

lol.

PATS16N0 doth protest too much, methinks.

 

[SalemPats]

Has anyone watched film on him. Disregarding sexual orientation can he help the PAtriots

 

[PP2]

This is a funny post! I laughed.

I invoked fictional, as well as historical characters, simply to demonstrate the type of people and personalities that your fantasy-society is not compatible with. Serious people cannot tolerate outright depravity in their city streets in that manner.

If we want to allow that, let no American ever pass moral judgement on a man like Caligula, because we've revealed ourselves to be the same.

This is the unspoken truth of your fantasy-ideology and the core of why I will always oppose your vision for "civilization" (the destruction of civilization as I see it).

I am not Caligula.

I have something called self-discipline and self-respect.

Natural. Unnatural. Psychological. The rest is all just details.

The sheer fact that you invoke fictional characters to support your argument is ridiculous and precludes you from ever being taken seriously.

 

[PATS16N0]

The sheer fact that you invoke fictional characters to support your argument is ridiculous and precludes you from ever being taken seriously.

Ok, so you have no sense of humor. Good to know.

 

[PP2]

I said earlier in the thread that your ilk are often dishonest in the way you represent things, and you just keep following that cliche.

For someone who claims to be sophisticated and well-read, that's a pretty shallow perception of other people. Oh wait...

 

[PATS16N0]

You equate sophisticated for abject surrender to leftist societal ideals.
That's one of your problems.

 

[PP2]

Ok, so you have no sense of humor. Good to know.

Not when it comes to bigotry or hate crime, no.

 

[PATS16N0]

Not when it comes to bigotry or hate crime, no.

lol.
Ridiculous.

Well, good luck. I guess if you can convince thread lurkers that I'm a buck toothed KKK member, everyone will suddenly realize that homosexuality and gay pride parades are a cornerstone of American civilization, natural, and deserving of some sort of yearly December holiday.

 

[PP2]

You equate sophisticated for abject surrender to leftist societal ideals.
That's one of your problems.

Again, here you go, trying to turn this political. We're not discussing leftist socialism.

The subject is whether or not it's right to pass judgment on gay people such as Michael Sam.

Speaking of which, if he were to become a Patriot, I assume you will burn up your Patriot jersey(s)?

 

[PP2]

lol.
Ridiculous.

Well, good luck. I guess if you can convince thread lurkers that I'm a buck toothed KKK member, everyone will suddenly realize that homosexuality and gay pride parades are a cornerstone of American civilization, natural, and deserving of some sort of yearly December holiday.

So you think people should have a sense of humor when it comes to bigotry or hate crime?

Why are you so seriously threatened by homosexuality and gay parades to the point of thinking that they'll endanger the very fabric of American society?

 

[Ring 6]

This is a funny post! I laughed.

I invoked fictional, as well as historical characters, simply to demonstrate the type of people and personalities that your fantasy-society is not compatible with. Serious people cannot tolerate outright depravity in their city streets in that manner.

If we want to allow that, let no American ever pass moral judgement on a man like Caligula, because we've revealed ourselves to be the same.

This is the unspoken truth of your fantasy-ideology and the core of why I will always oppose your vision for "civilization" (the destruction of civilization as I see it).

I am not Caligula.

I have something called self-discipline and self-respect.

Natural. Unnatural. Psychological. The rest is all just details.

So a person in my family has discovered that she is attracted to women.
She goes to college, works, gets good grades, has never been in trouble in any way.
She is a kind person, who is always ready and willing to help others, and is supportive of all of her family and friends.
She has a girlfriend instead of a boyfriend because she is attracted to women and not men. She is happier than I ever remember, in all parts of her life.

You think she is some kind of psychologically deficient monster who has no self respect or self discipline because what she ought to do is find some guy she is not attracted to, date him, and be unhappy so that your idea of right can be championed?

Is that really what you believe?

 

[fake punt]

What the liberal fascist thought police are going
And real people, millions upon millions upon millions of us (the majority of the world) aren't compatible with this.

You can pretend that "gay" is a meaningless word that only means "victimized," but it isn't. That's just what you want to be the case because it suits your agenda. Give some definition to the word "gay," like photos of gay pride parades do, and it's revealed that it is something more, something most sane and dignified and honorable people would take issue with when it's rubbed in our faces.

Wow, PATS16NO, you really have those pictures of gay people close at hand.

Homosexuality has been around as long as humans have been around. It'a as natural as can be. You likely grew up in a homophobic environment. Hell, I did too. The difference is that you lack the intellectual courage, character, and intelligence to think carefully about this issue and challenge yourself. If you think homosexuality is wrong, then please explain. If you can't do better than "it's not natural" and post pictures of gay parades (which represent only a small minority of gay people), then shut the ***** up. I'm ashamed that there are people like you who are Patriots fans.

 

[Ring 6]

You equate sophisticated for abject surrender to leftist societal ideals.
That's one of your problems.

How is supporting the rights of other human beings without requiring them to live they way I choose for them abject surrender to leftist societal ideals?

 

[Ring 6]

Yeah, I get it and know, and saw a long time ago. When a homosexual wants to attack the character of someone else, they accuse them of being...

...a homosexual.

lol.

You are equally as homosexual as BradyFTW.

 

[fake punt]

Now they're pushing the envelope. Gay this, gay that, gay sitcoms, gay athletes, gay "rights" (an intellectual absurdity), gay marriage.

A significant segment of America's homosexual population wants to demand acceptance from the majority while simultaneously acting in a way that is unacceptable - a way they know is unacceptable.

Well that's just terrible! A group of people who are doing no harm to society want to be treated with equal rights and respect? That's just awful.

Let's give it twenty years and see how that works out for them in the end.

You're a sad case PATS16NO. Just a horrible human being.

 

[Ring 6]

Again, here you go, trying to turn this political. We're not discussing leftist socialism.

The subject is whether or not it's right to pass judgment on gay people such as Michael Sam.

Speaking of which, if he were to become a Patriot, I assume you will burn up your Patriot jersey(s)?

Actually, I disagree with you here.

The subject is whether it is right to pass judgment on PEOPLE and feel that they are responsible to only act in a way you approve.

Gay is just the type of person we are using in the example.
If you are intolerant of people due to them being gay, you are intolerant of people, its just a matter of which people are higher or lower on your pecking order.

 

[Ring 6]

Well that's just terrible! A group of people who are doing no harm to society want to be treated with equal rights and respect? That's just awful.



You're a sad case PATS16NO. Just a horrible human being.

I'm beginning to think that he has a gay son and is embarrassed by that, and has disowned him because no son of his would do THOSE THINGS.

 

[Ring 6]

lol.
Ridiculous.

Well, good luck. I guess if you can convince thread lurkers that I'm a buck toothed KKK member, everyone will suddenly realize that homosexuality and gay pride parades are a cornerstone of American civilization, natural, and deserving of some sort of yearly December holiday.

Please explain how anyone has asked anything other than treating gay people like, people.

 

[fake punt]

If you want to be a homosexual, be my guest. I'd rather that you don't openly act like a woman around me with your prancing and high pitched squeals, but I have the right to excuse myself from those instances, and you have the right to act like a man, a woman, a robot, or an animal just the same. Whatever floats your boat is cool with me.

If you want to dislike homosexuals, be my guest as well. It's your right, and just like many other subjects, you'd probably have some valid points that make some sense. I do not dislike gays, nor anyone who treats me with respect. That's how I choose to handle it---but that doesn't make "me" right, it's just my personal choice.

In the case of a gay player in the NFL, I think it's unfortunate, but my fear is that it may be too focused on until it's more of an "accepted" practice. That may not happen until other openly gay players come out as well, to help pave the way. Even Michael Sam's father is practically disowning him right now in the media, which will only make this situation even more volatile for future news coverage and controversy. As soon as many see it as a "bold" move that took guts, his father reminds everyone how insanely crazy and disgusting it is, which will make others possibly think twice about applauding his move if they were sitting on the fence to begin with.

You do not dislike gays, you say? No, it's actually quite clear from your words that you dislike them very much.