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This whole natural discussion is fascinating. What is natural? What does that even mean?

Humans are above nature, we mold it to fit our needs.
 
The internet is unnatural... so can I assume many of you are going to stop using it and go away?
 
Oral sex is unnatural, which is why it is against the law in many states.

However, I do not want to live in a world that does not include oral sex!
 
This whole natural discussion is fascinating. What is natural? What does that even mean?

Humans are above nature, we mold it to fit our needs.

Not to mention that if I find something unnatural, why is it any of my business to judge someone for doing it?

Also, I am attracted to women, so sex with women is natural to me. I probably couldn't have sex with a man, so I would find it unnatural.

I work with someone who is the opposite. He is attracted to men, but not women, so gay sex is natural to him, and straight sex is unnatural.
 
The internet is unnatural... so can I assume many of you are going to stop using it and go away?

Is it unnatural to turn lush forest into parking lots and giant super-malls? I would say that is fairly unnatural.
 
Bradyftw, You don't even listen to what I said. Your attraction to a woman is natural. Whether or not you are aiming to reproduce. That attraction is what nature intended, which could result in reproduction. In addition, the male and female bodies were made and built for each other sexually.

Unnatural things are simply not possible.

Nature intended whatever could possible happen, and that applies to everything, not just sex.

You cannot logically claim otherwise.
 
Oral sex is unnatural, which is why it is against the law in many states.

However, I do not want to live in a world that does not include oral sex!

It would interesting to hear the opinion on this from those that think gay sex is unnatural because it can't result in procreation. I get your answer, but I'd be interested if the 'gay is wrong' crowd applies the same standards to their own sex life.
 
Not to mention that if I find something unnatural, why is it any of my business to judge someone for doing it?

Also, I am attracted to women, so sex with women is natural to me. I probably couldn't have sex with a man, so I would find it unnatural.

I work with someone who is the opposite. He is attracted to men, but not women, so gay sex is natural to him, and straight sex is unnatural.

Sums it up pretty well for me.
 
Humans are above nature, we mold it to fit our needs.

Huh? Don't be ridiculous. Nothing is above nature. That's why you're gonna die.

Manipulating your environment effectively does not mean being above nature. I'll drop you in the middle of the rain-forest with a slingshot and an onion, and then we'll know something.
 
Not to mention that if I find something unnatural, why is it any of my business to judge someone for doing it?

Also, I am attracted to women, so sex with women is natural to me. I probably couldn't have sex with a man, so I would find it unnatural.

I work with someone who is the opposite. He is attracted to men, but not women, so gay sex is natural to him, and straight sex is unnatural.

Well said Andy.
 
Huh? Don't be ridiculous. Nothing is above nature. That's why you're gonna die.

Manipulating your environment effectively does not mean being above nature. I'll drop you in the middle of the rain-forest with a slingshot and an onion, and then we'll know something.

Are you really sure that I will die? Maybe we will figure out how to reverse aging or upload my consciousness into a computer. We are getting to that point in technology and if all goes well I will live 40 more years. In the last 40 years, technology has advanced at an exponential rate.
 
Are you really sure that I will die? Maybe we will figure out how to reverse aging or upload my consciousness into a computer. We are getting to that point in technology and if all goes well I will live 40 more years. In the last 40 years, technology has advanced at an exponential rate.

Don't forget quantum immortality. There's a chance there's a universe out there where you personally just never die.
 
If he can rush a QB I don't care what he likes.
 
It is downright oppressive a term as the N word is, as well as "******ed," and just because it's in common usage doesn't mean it's appropriate.

Well, boo-*******-hoo.
Words aren't oppressive. If you think they are, you're just overly sensitive and weak.

Jim Crow thought like this with the rise of the Civil Rights movement. He warned them that their actions were unacceptable and that they had to go back home, and when the activists refused, he took guns, baseball bats, and water hoses to them, and look where he ended up.

More flimsy attempts to connect the `plight` of homosexuality with blacks.
Hilarious.

You continually flunk history, so perhaps its best you just give up on trying to use history as an example to support your bigotry.

The rise of the reich exploited the deep frustration of the population who were facing dire economic hardship from the stranglehold that the Treaty of Versailles put on the German economy. The German people were told that the Jewish people were responsible for this. It was a very effective fear and terror campaign. This is why the Marshall Plan for the end of WWII was the exact opposite of the Versailles Treaty.

History is more complex than what can be crammed into a 30 minute History Channel special. Before you tell me I flunk history, you should try reading a few books instead of relying on television programs before claiming any expertise. I said it was an ingredient, which it was, and you tell me I am wrong and come back at me with the Treaty of Versailles (Weimar Republic 101) like you're some sort of historical genius that has to correct me.

Thanks, Professor. Were they having employment problems too or did you not get to "the simpleton's guide to German history part II" yet?

Also those anti-pornography, decadence, etc. laws were not passed until after Hitler came into power. Nice try, though.

So they needed power BEFORE they could pass laws?
More historical brilliance. Where can I attend your DVD signing?
 
Are you really sure that I will die? Maybe we will figure out how to reverse aging or upload my consciousness into a computer. We are getting to that point in technology and if all goes well I will live 40 more years. In the last 40 years, technology has advanced at an exponential rate.

No, dude, you are going to die for sure.

That's about the only thing you can be sure of. Somebody's going to say "that and taxes."

Funny how some people are more willing to suggest that death may be more unnatural than oral sex or homosexuality. What does that tell you?

Don't forget quantum immortality. There's a chance there's a universe out there where you personally just never die.

You really think that I want to deal with you asswipes forever? LOL.

Naw, you're a goner and it's only a matter of time. Sleep tight.
 
No, dude, you are going to die for sure.

That's about the only thing you can be sure of. Somebody's going to say "that and taxes."

Funny how some people are more willing to suggest that death may be more unnatural than oral sex or homosexuality. What does that tell you?



You really think that I want to deal with you asswipes forever? LOL.

Naw, you're a goner and it's only a matter of time. Sleep tight.

Accepting the inevitability of death is fine and healthy. Humans can still find a way to transcend death.
 
Well, boo-*******-hoo.
Words aren't oppressive. If you think they are, you're just overly sensitive and weak.

Words are mightier than the sword. Empires rise and fall based on words. Words can move you to anger or move you to weep.

Do not casually cast off the significance words play in the world. That is just ignorant.
 
Words are mightier than the sword. Empires rise and fall based on words. Words can move you to anger or move you to weep.

Do not casually cast off the significance words play in the world. That is just ignorant.


One word: context.
 
Words are mightier than the sword. Empires rise and fall based on words. Words can move you to anger or move you to weep.

Do not casually cast off the significance words play in the world. That is just ignorant.

The long-standing oppression and vitriol against homosexuals is ignorance.
The concern I have is how people can have such deep-rooted hatred for those who aren't of like mind.
Given the proverbial pitch-fork under the right circumstances, I can imagine certain persons on this board would, most certainly, inflict harm on individuals who don't fall under their ideologies.
 

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