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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Love that Eugene Wilson was the last Patriot to win AFC Defensive Player of Month. Maybe the last guy I would have picked.
I'm happy for Chandler and I believe he deserves recognition. I also watch a ton of games and cannot fathom making him the pick over Muhammed Wilkerson. Yeah, he's a freakin' Jet but he's the most dominant player on defense in the AFC... AFAIC...and has been all season.
It really wasn't Chandler for Wilkerson though. Yeah, the pick they traded away could have been used on Wilkerson and it ended up being used on Chandler the following year. But they could have drafted Wilkerson over Solder too.
Don't forget that Wilkerson has been in the league one year longer than Jones. They are kinda having a similar career trajectories. Wilkerson was very good last year, but not the elite player he has become this year. Perhaps Jones becomes an elite, DPOY type of defender next year with a little more polish.
Remember that Jones came into the league very raw. He still has some room to grow as a player.
I meant player of the month, Rob...the draft is far too long ago for my three brain cells to dredge up memories.
I know this is hindsight, and that Solder is a very good player, but that year we could have had Wilkerson and Aldon Smith, Or Wilkerson and Cameron Jordan. It is what it is, i was bummed the whole season over that draft. This team Really needed some help on the D-line and we failed to correct that situation And that year the draft was packed with D-line prospects that would turn out to be very good, even great. Oh, that was the year we took Ras I IR listIt really wasn't Chandler for Wilkerson though. Yeah, the pick they traded away could have been used on Wilkerson and it ended up being used on Chandler the following year. But they could have drafted Wilkerson over Solder too.
Don't forget that Wilkerson has been in the league one year longer than Jones. They are kinda having a similar career trajectories. Wilkerson was very good last year, but not the elite player he has become this year. Perhaps Jones becomes an elite, DPOY type of defender next year with a little more polish.
Remember that Jones came into the league very raw. He still has some room to grow as a player.
I know this is hindsight, and that Solder is a very good player, but that year we could have had Wilkerson and Aldon Smith
I know this is hindsight, and that Solder is a very good player, but that year we could have had Wilkerson and Aldon Smith, Or Wilkerson and Cameron Jordan. It is what it is, i was bummed the whole season over that draft. This team Really needed some help on the D-line and we failed to correct that situation And that year the draft was packed with D-line prospects that would turn out to be very good, even great. Oh, that was the year we took Ras I IR list
Belichick turned his two first rounds picks in that draft into Solder, Vereen, and most of Jones. That's really worth complaining about?I know this is hindsight, and that Solder is a very good player, but that year we could have had Wilkerson and Aldon Smith, Or Wilkerson and Cameron Jordan. It is what it is, i was bummed the whole season over that draft. This team Really needed some help on the D-line and we failed to correct that situation And that year the draft was packed with D-line prospects that would turn out to be very good, even great. Oh, that was the year we took Ras I IR list
I'm happy for Chandler and I believe he deserves recognition. I also watch a ton of games and cannot fathom making him the pick over Muhammed Wilkerson. Yeah, he's a freakin' Jet but he's the most dominant player on defense in the AFC... AFAIC...and has been all season.
Wilkerson has been dominant, but he has a better supporting cast on the D-Line than Jones has. Jones has more tackles and more sacks, yet he get's double and triple teamed because he really doesn't get as much help as Wilkerson does. That tells you how great a season Jones has been having, Jones has 15 more tackles. I live in NY, and see the Jets every week, I do agree with you that Wilkerson is a beast in his own right. But he has #1 draft pick Sheldon Richardson (another beast), Damon Harrison takes up a lot of space, Calvin Pace and Quentin Coples coming off the edge. They are very good against the run, though sometimes suspect against the pass due to their below average secondary. If they don't get pressure, they give up a lot of points.
I'm happy for Chandler and I believe he deserves recognition. I also watch a ton of games and cannot fathom making him the pick over Muhammed Wilkerson. Yeah, he's a freakin' Jet but he's the most dominant player on defense in the AFC... AFAIC...and has been all season.
Wilkerson has been dominant, but he has a better supporting cast on the D-Line than Jones has. Jones has more tackles and more sacks, yet he get's double and triple teamed because he really doesn't get as much help as Wilkerson does. That tells you how great a season Jones has been having, Jones has 15 more tackles. I live in NY, and see the Jets every week, I do agree with you that Wilkerson is a beast in his own right. But he has #1 draft pick Sheldon Richardson (another beast), Damon Harrison takes up a lot of space, Calvin Pace and Quentin Coples coming off the edge. They are very good against the run, though sometimes suspect against the pass due to their below average secondary. If they don't get pressure, they give up a lot of points.
You lost me on Coples and Pace. Both are average at best.
Speaking of Coples, how much is Rex kicking himself for taking him over Chandler Jones. Imagine their defensive front if you swapped Coples for Chandler?