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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I don't think you need to. The Texans cut him. That should say enough.
Look, just because a player used to be great doesn't mean there's 'no downside' to signing him. If he takes the field and is a complete liability in the secondary like he was last year for the Ravens and presumably was this year for the Texans, that's a big issue. Names don't defend passes.
At what point was Ed Reed "a complete liability" in 2012?
I don't think you need to. The Texans cut him. That should say enough.
Look, just because a player used to be great doesn't mean there's 'no downside' to signing him. If he takes the field and is a complete liability in the secondary like he was last year for the Ravens and presumably was this year for the Texans, that's a big issue. Names don't defend passes.
When he missed 21 tackles and allowed a completion percentage (and receiving yards) magnitudes higher than he ever had previously. He wasn't good last year, and the Ravens began taking him off the field at times. Mike Preston, who covers the Ravens for the Baltimore Sun said "Ravens coach John Harbaugh wanted Reed back as much as he wants a root canal" when he signed with the Texans. He's also been dealing with injuries this year on top of having slowed down considerably. It's not surprising -- he's 35 years old.
I don't think you need to. The Texans cut him. That should say enough.
Look, just because a player used to be great doesn't mean there's 'no downside' to signing him. If he takes the field and is a complete liability in the secondary like he was last year for the Ravens and presumably was this year for the Texans, that's a big issue. Names don't defend passes.
Don't be sure BB will want Reed for certain. Don't forget that Reed started a mini-mutiny last year on the Ravens by publicly calling out Harbaugh for making the team practice in pads. BB would take that kind of talk for about as long as it takes to pick up a telephone and say, good luck with your future elsewhere, Ed.
Add in that Reed just called out his coach/coaching again in Texas and those two incidents might be more than BB wants to deal with, and this all comes with the serious question of whether Reed can even play anymore.
With all the young players on this team the last thing I'd think BB would want to introduce is a guy who has decided he's earned the right to publicly speak his mind. Now, BB did get Moss to zip it for two years but once Randy started running at the mouth he was gone.
When he missed 21 tackles and allowed a completion percentage (and receiving yards) magnitudes higher than he ever had previously. He wasn't good last year, and the Ravens began taking him off the field at times. Mike Preston, who covers the Ravens for the Baltimore Sun said "Ravens coach John Harbaugh wanted Reed back as much as he wants a root canal" when he signed with the Texans. He's also been dealing with injuries this year on top of having slowed down considerably. It's not surprising -- he's 35 years old.
I know it, the Ravens might have had a shot at winning one more Lombardi had Reed not been such a liability last season.................
There's a missed tackle stat? Where do you find that?
There is also a stat for safeties for completion % against and receiving yards? Once again, where is that from?
If it's a reputable site, like CHFF then i can see some validity to them, however if this is from PFF then it is useless.
The Chargers cut Rodney Harrison. The Chiefs cut Brian Waters. The Raiders cut Tommy Kelly. Just a few examples of why it's not true that the Texans cutting an older player in Reed "should say enough." Certainly there are plenty of examples where it is the case, but the point is that Pats need to do their due diligence here in case he really isn't washed up. I'd like to think that they wouldn't sign him and have him out on the field if they think he's done.
If only every player on a Super Bowl winning team was a star. Reed was off the field quite a bit in the Super Bowl, by the by.
Hahaha CHFF isn't reputable at all. PFF has its issues, but it's far better than CHFF. Being horribly biased towards the Patriots doesn't make it objective.
FO also had Reed as the worst tackler among defensive backs last season: FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | Broken Tackles 2012: Defense
Even if you don't believe the stats, all you have to do is take a look at what Baltimore fans were writing about Reed last year. "Missed tackles" comes up constantly.
Apples and oranges. These players weren't released midway through the season, when the team was already on the hook for the player's contract.
When does he clear waivers (assuming he does so)
He wasn't bad.
Field Yates' breakdown on his fit in New England.
Analysis: Could Ed Reed help the New England Patriots? - ESPN Boston
• Projecting a Patriots role. ... based on his tape from this season, he’s better off in a spot different than how he was used in Houston. The Patriots have their free safety in McCourty, though they do play some half-field safety responsibilities, meaning there are times when the strong safety will have to handle free-safety chores. For Reed, though not a heavy-framed player, he has the tackling willingness and instincts to handle some of the duties Steve Gregory has manned this season. With Gregory possibly missing upcoming games due to a broken thumb, the Patriots could have a void to fill. In-house options to replace Gregory include safety Duron Harmon, who has an interception in each of his past two games. Gregory’s injury doesn’t appear to be a long-term one, so the expectation is he’ll be back in a few weeks, if not sooner.
• The verdict. Would an investment in Reed be worth it? He’s best suited to play a situational defensive role and provide veteran leadership and wisdom to a secondary that features five first- or second-year players. ...Belichick and defensive coordinator Matt Patricia don’t need Reed to play an every-down role and are a creative duo that could maximize his strengths. With that in mind, if signed on a free-agent contract, Reed would be a worthwhile Patriots investment in my view.
Hahaha CHFF isn't reputable at all. PFF has its issues, but it's far better than CHFF. Being horribly biased towards the Patriots doesn't make it objective.
In other words you either got those stats at PFF or made them up. So much for that discussion. PFF named Kareem Mackenize the best player in football a few years ago, I put more stock in the opinion of the girl at the carwash than anything PFF says. The most useless site in a vast universe of lame sports sites.
Any metric that says that, on average, every team in the league in 2010 had a player better than Tom Brady—the first unanimous MVP in NFL history—is absolutely worthless.
Adam Schefter ?@AdamSchefter 1m
Ed Reed went unclaimed on waivers. Now a free agent.
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