Rate Brady's WOO (Window of Opportunity?)

[PatsWickedPissah]

Brady's window of opportunity exists as long as he is playing in the NFL

Seriously folks - even our Super Bowl winning teams had serious flaws. Brady has a way of covering up those flaws and even making guys like Reche Caldwell look halfway decent (and coming close to the Super Bowl that year at that)

That's not to gloss over any shortcomings of this or any previous Patriots team - but if you have Tom Brady playing QB, the window is wide open.

Excellent point.
Given the QBs who've won the SB, it is demonstrably clear that TFB is not our constraining factor and won't be for years.

 

[lurker1965]

At some point the time will come when he wants to do more than his body complies with... and at some point, we may be faced with the "Draft this guy! No draft that guy! No you're a traitor for even thinking of that!" stuff.

Hopefully, he finishes his career here, but do you really see 12 saying "Eh no, I don't want to lace 'em up this year, I wanna go fishing"?

I fear seeing Tom in another uniform. Feh. But could happen, despite his wanting to retire a Patriot.

Call me crazy (or call me, maybe), but when L.A. gets a franchise, an aging Tom Brady lends it instant creditability. Yes, that is like 2017 or so. Just sayin'.

That's the problem here: are you willing to suffer a 1-15 or 2-14 season to get a top-tier QB?

Yes. Let me repeat for the hard of reading, YES. (Is there a way to make that flash?)

 

[Joker]

[blink]No[/blink]

..............

 

[Brady6]

Call me crazy (or call me, maybe), but when L.A. gets a franchise, an aging Tom Brady lends it instant creditability. Yes, that is like 2017 or so. Just sayin'.

Yeah it would but I still don't think a new franchise would want to start out with a 40 year old QB even if it is Tom Brady.

The compound Brady is building in Brookline indicates to me that Brady wants to be part of this franchise past his playing years. He certainly has the money to buy into the franchise if the Krafts wanted to sell him a share, or he could take on a role like Elway in Denver.

 

[Rob0729]

Brady IMO realistically has two more years left to win it all or it's over

Very few QBs past 37 have ever done much,Only Elway comes to mind but that came about because he also had a dominant RB in Terell Davis keeping the pressure of having to carry the team at 38 years old.

Brady will not be able to cover up a pourous defense should they give up too many points......the RBs AND Defense need to aid Brady in a big way or he's not getting a 4th ring.

Brady has been carrying this team way too long,it's starting to get late and this is where those other guys need to step up and solidify a full talented roster.

Favre was 40 when he was an overtime loss from going to a Super Bowl.

Both Rich Gannon and Kurt Warner went to Super Bowls at 37 (Gannon was the league MVP that year).

YA Tittle was the AP MVP and was the losing QB in the NFL Championships at age 37.

At Age 37, Steve Young passed for 4,170 yards, 36 TDs, and 12 INTs while rushing for 434 more yards.

Warren Moon at age 39 passed for 4,228 yards, 33 TDs, and 14 INTs.

Personally, I find it hard to judge when Brady's age will become a factor. The only guy I think is a good test bed is Favre. With today's conditioning and medicine, guys like Montana and Young might have gone into their forties before slowing down. There was a draught of elite QBs between Favre and Brady and Manning so unfortunately there isn't a lot of test subjects to determine how long elite QBs of this era could last.

Many elite and very good QBs in the past had career ending injuries (or degenerative injuries) that would only hold a QB of today out for a few weeks or months. We are seeing players at every position playing far longer careers than it was ever dreamed of a few decades ago. If Ray Lewis played in the 70s or 80s, his career probably would have ended 5-7 years sooner than it did. Brady's career would have ended in 2008 if the medical science was still the way it was back in the 1980s.

I think among the current crop of elite/top 10 QBs, we will see several of them play at a high level into their early to mid 40s. Will it be Brady? Who knows? But I guarantee you that you will see it with at least some of the top QBs of today.

 

[Rob0729]

We saw Joe Montana put on another jersey. So it's not unthinkable that Brady could as well. I don't think it will happen but never say never.

IMO.

That was a different situation though. The 49ers had a HOF QB sitting on the bench. They knew they could let Montana go and improve their QB situation. With today's salary cap NFL, there is no way the Pats could have a QB the caliber of Young on the bench unless they lucked out and drafted a QB who was not top rated coming out of college and he turned into an elite QB (obviously happened before with Brady).

Also, Montana had back issues that may or may not have been as much of an issue if they had today's medical science. If they had today's medical science, they might have kept Montana and traded Young.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Favre was 40 when he was an overtime loss from going to a Super Bowl.

Both Rich Gannon and Kurt Warner went to Super Bowls at 37 (Gannon was the league MVP that year).

YA Tittle was the AP MVP and was the losing QB in the NFL Championships at age 37.

At Age 37, Steve Young passed for 4,170 yards, 36 TDs, and 12 INTs while rushing for 434 more yards.

Warren Moon at age 39 passed for 4,228 yards, 33 TDs, and 14 INTs.

Personally, I find it hard to judge when Brady's age will become a factor. The only guy I think is a good test bed is Favre. With today's conditioning and medicine, guys like Montana and Young might have gone into their forties before slowing down. There was a draught of elite QBs between Favre and Brady and Manning so unfortunately there isn't a lot of test subjects to determine how long elite QBs of this era could last.

Many elite and very good QBs in the past had career ending injuries (or degenerative injuries) that would only hold a QB of today out for a few weeks or months. We are seeing players at every position playing far longer careers than it was ever dreamed of a few decades ago. If Ray Lewis played in the 70s or 80s, his career probably would have ended 5-7 years sooner than it did. Brady's career would have ended in 2008 if the medical science was still the way it was back in the 1980s.

I think among the current crop of elite/top 10 QBs, we will see several of them play at a high level into their early to mid 40s. Will it be Brady? Who knows? But I guarantee you that you will see it with at least some of the top QBs of today.

Excellent data. Folks need note that most all of these QBs were outside the pocket more mobile types where age limits you more and most importantly they took many more serious hits than Brady who uses his quality OL well and smartly avoids lots of hits, throwing the ball away, etc.

If Manning's neck bolts don't rust, he too could last a long time.