Kyle Love’s not surprised the Patriots released him

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Kyle Love’s not surprised the Patriots released him | ProFootballTalk

same old disgruntled former player...

 

[Sporin]

I think he has every right to feel disgruntled regarding the diabetes being the reason given for cutting him.

But was his performance regardless of the D2 up to snuff? Lot of cuts on that no-pressure D-line iirc.

 

[Clonamery]

Kyle Love’s not surprised the Patriots released him | ProFootballTalk

same old disgruntled former player...

For most, accountability is never easy.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Maybe releasing him didn't look good but I think Kyle believes he is a lot better than he really is....he was serviceable as a DL but was not very good at pressure on the QB.

A bit of arrogance as if they let Demarcus Ware go

 

[RobAllan]

They cut him early enough to find another team and get into OTAs and TC. He'll have plenty of time to get his head into a new playbook, bond with new teammates, etc.

If they were going to cut him, they did it at the best time possible. That's about as much consideration as you can ask from a professional sports organization, imho.

Loyalty is for voluntary things like friendships. A job is something you're being paid to be at. And don't pretend you'd keep showing up if they stopped paying. We're a specialized society and job loyalty is paycheck-paycheck and that's not just the NFL.

 

[Uncle Rico]

veteran guys who have been there for years and put in a lot of work get treated like rookies,

... Which is how, say, a UDFA gets a chance to prove something to the coaches and maybe beat out some veterans for a roster spot. That's how it works in NE, and because of that, someone like Love will have much higher lifetime earnings than he would have otherwise.

 

[UK_Pat37]

'Cold calculation'?

Combination of yet more dire writing by PFT and a bitter player.

He was at the heart of some of our pass rushing woes. Couldn't rush the passer if his life depending on it. Nice situational run stuffer but he was being beaten out gradually last year by a guy we had already cut before him...it wasn't exactly looking good form then on was it?

Good luck to him. He fits a huge area of need for the Jags and will do good things for them....but I would be surprised if he has much success rushing the passer.

I am very pessimistic about what part his Diabetes played in his release. If anything, it made a hard decision a lot easier...sadly to say.

 

[belichick010405]

So, I guess we can close the book on the Feel-Good Story about Kyle Love. Way to show your teeth Kyle.

 

[Sicilian]

I can certainly understand Kyle's point of view, and I think it's important to understand that someone can be frustrated with an organizational decision while still, deep down, understanding the factors that go into that decision. I was laid off after six years from a company that gave me my first start out of college. I had been with them since they were 15 people working out of a house, and helped them grow to multiple locations, and close to 1000 employees.

When they laid me off, it was for good reason: My job was redundant and the company had financial concerns. It still stung, and I was pissed at them in the moment, but it made sense in hindsight and I've ended up in a better situation ultimately. The difference is, I didn't have press asking me for my thoughts while I was still at an emotional ground zero.

 

[captain stone]

I would've kept him & Deaderick until the end of TC, then cut them (provided that Wilfork, Kelly,
Armstead, Forston & Grissom stayed healthy).

 

[jlu52]

If Kyle could play with the same burning intensity as he did chatting with PFT, he would probably still be here. He got released at a good time (for him) and found a job with the Jags. A perfect fit, a JAG playing for the Jags. Good luck to Kyle, except when he plays the Patriots.

 

[patfanken]

If Kyle could play with the same burning intensity as he did chatting with PFT, he would probably still be here. He got released at a good time (for him) and found a job with the Jags. A perfect fit, a JAG playing for the Jags. Good luck to Kyle, except when he plays the Patriots.

Don't you guys get it. The fall off of his play during the second half of the season, is probably a direct function of his diabetes, even if he and Pats didn't know it at the time. I wish him the best but the fact is he is treading on thin ice trying to maintain his 310lb weight and strength and do what's right for his long term health.

Its really not hard to live a normal life ONCE you have figured out the proper combination of exercise, diet and medication. Its important to know, its different for every person, so its not like you can say just to this and you'll be fine.

The key thing here is that playing NFL football is as far from a "normal" lifestyle as you can get. I'm not saying that Love risks death by continuing to play, but its going to be exceedingly difficult for him to maintain that weight and not be subject to blood sugar fluctuations that are going to affect his performance.

This kid is a marginal player (relatively) who was making the best of his limited athletic skills to carve out an NFL career as a productive run stopper. The competition at that level is so great that he has a very slim margin of error before he becomes "replaceable". Its my strong belief that as a fellow diabetes sufferer, he would have been far better served to take the Pats offer to "retire" for a year.

 

[jlu52]

Don't you guys get it. The fall off of his play during the second half of the season, is probably a direct function of his diabetes, even if he and Pats didn't know it at the time. I wish him the best but the fact is he is treading on thin ice trying to maintain his 310lb weight and strength and do what's right for his long term health.

Its really not hard to live a normal life ONCE you have figured out the proper combination of exercise, diet and medication. Its important to know, its different for every person, so its not like you can say just to this and you'll be fine.

The key thing here is that playing NFL football is as far from a "normal" lifestyle as you can get. I'm not saying that Love risks death by continuing to play, but its going to be exceedingly difficult for him to maintain that weight and not be subject to blood sugar fluctuations that are going to affect his performance.

This kid is a marginal player (relatively) who was making the best of his limited athletic skills to carve out an NFL career as a productive run stopper. The competition at that level is so great that he has a very slim margin of error before he becomes "replaceable". Its my strong belief that as a fellow diabetes sufferer, he would have been far better served to take the Pats offer to "retire" for a year.

I totally agree with you. I take issue with Love saying the Patriots treated him badly, when I think they had his best interests at heart, along with what is best for the team at the moment. He got his chance to play here, and worked hard to stay here. The Patriots offered him a chance to stay, and he said he wasn't treated well. I'm calling him out specifically for his lack of gratitude.

 

[PatsDeb]

I totally agree with you. I take issue with Love saying the Patriots treated him badly, when I think they had his best interests at heart, along with what is best for the team at the moment. He got his chance to play here, and worked hard to stay here. The Patriots offered him a chance to stay, and he said he wasn't treated well. I'm calling him out specifically for his lack of gratitude.

Meh, we'd all probably have some sour grapes if our employer fired us, but said it was for our own good. Diabetes is tough to deal with and the NFL is tough to deal with. I wish Kyle the best, more for a healthy life than a long NFL career.

 

[SeymourTrophies]

Meh, we'd all probably have some sour grapes if our employer fired us, but said it was for our own good. Diabetes is tough to deal with and the NFL is tough to deal with. I wish Kyle the best, more for a healthy life than a long NFL career.

Everything I had read said that the Patriots offered to keep him and let him have his bonus, but they wanted him to sit out the year and see how his health developed. Love wanted to play the year, so the Pats cut him. I don't know which story is true, but it offers a different perspective than a lot of people are throwing around about the Pats using the beetus as an excuse to cut ties.

 

[Brady2Moss]

Don't you guys get it. The fall off of his play during the second half of the season, is probably a direct function of his diabetes, even if he and Pats didn't know it at the time. I wish him the best but the fact is he is treading on thin ice trying to maintain his 310lb weight and strength and do what's right for his long term health.

Its really not hard to live a normal life ONCE you have figured out the proper combination of exercise, diet and medication. Its important to know, its different for every person, so its not like you can say just to this and you'll be fine.

The key thing here is that playing NFL football is as far from a "normal" lifestyle as you can get. I'm not saying that Love risks death by continuing to play, but its going to be exceedingly difficult for him to maintain that weight and not be subject to blood sugar fluctuations that are going to affect his performance.

This kid is a marginal player (relatively) who was making the best of his limited athletic skills to carve out an NFL career as a productive run stopper. The competition at that level is so great that he has a very slim margin of error before he becomes "replaceable". Its my strong belief that as a fellow diabetes sufferer, he would have been far better served to take the Pats offer to "retire" for a year.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

But, but, Jay Cutler plays with diabetes why can't Kyle!!

Maybe because Kyle doesn't have type 1 diabetes, but type 2 where the recommended thing to do is shed a lot of weight. Unfortunately that conflicts with his job of being 300+ pounds, but Florio will never connect those dots they are too far apart for him.

 

[AzorianPats]

Ehh I wish him the best of luck with his battle with diabetes...but honestly he was a below average- to average, one dimensional player that had the luxury of playing next to Vince Wilfork. So with that said, I hope his health stays good, and he enjoys his stay in jacksonville cuz by next year a lot of us will have forgotton about him

 

[condon84]

You guys will make excuses for anything the Patriots organization will do. He was good for the role he played while he was here. He was cut because of his condition, not because of his performance. If he was not diagnosed with diabetes, he'd likely still be playing for the Pats.

I support the team, but this didn't make sense if we're just talking performance. Especially if you consider who's behind him in the depth chart that's a proven player in our system.

And regarding soured grapes, he expressed what is true about how the Pats run their business.

 

[BradyFTW!]

I think he has every right to feel disgruntled regarding the diabetes being the reason given for cutting him.

But was his performance regardless of the D2 up to snuff? Lot of cuts on that no-pressure D-line iirc.

1. He wasn't especially good last year. It wouldn't have shocked me if he'd been cut, even without the diabetes diagnosis.
2. He has a serious health issue , the treatment of which will likely prevent him from playing football effectively and/or for a large number of snaps this year. The Pats offered him a year off, which he really ought to take anyway. Now he's disgruntled because the Pats don't want to put a player on the field who they're not confident can maintain his playing weight/condition. Makes sense, especially when that player is a borderline JAG anyway. If they're going to take that chance, it'll be on a better player than Kyle Love. (think Tedy Bruschi post-stroke)

Besides, his complaint was basically that veterans have to earn their roster spots just like rookies. Seriously? Is that something to complain about now? I'm fairly certain that that philosophy is exactly how he made his way onto the roster in the first place, and it's pretty much a core tenet of Belichick's team philosophy. If he's honestly surprised to learn that he still has to earn his spot then he must not have been paying too much attention.

 

[Pats0204]

You guys will make excuses for anything the Patriots organization will do. He was good for the role he played while he was here. He was cut because of his condition, not because of his performance. If he was not diagnosed with diabetes, he'd likely still be playing for the Pats.

I support the team, but this didn't make sense if we're just talking performance. Especially if you consider who's behind him in the depth chart that's a proven player in our system.

And regarding soured grapes, he expressed what is true about how the Pats run their business.

I disagree. He was cut because of his performance AND his diabetes. It's not like he was a great player. There was a reason only the JAGS put in a claim for him among the other 31 teams. He is a one dimensional player; a decent run stuffer. he certainly was not what I would categorize as a "good" player. He was on the bubble for a roster spot before this diabetes thing came out. The diabetes was just the icing on the cake that made the cut inevitable. He won't be missed AT ALL but I wish him well.