Tebow A Pat (wild speculation) Mod edit

[Brady6]

The Patriots aren't here to let anyone who wants to show up try to learn how to play a new position.
They need to get the best option. They do not meed a poor option taking up a roster space, reps, and development from a player who is better.
I know your lame attempts at insults are to cover your lack of argument, but if you had a reasonable point you wouldn't have to be an ashole.

They aren't? So Devlin was special? Edelman was special.. Hell they let Ebner try a different sport so he must of been really special.

You do realize our hall of fame QB was a 6th round pick that we gave an opportunity to?

Andrew I am not insulting you at all it is very obvious to me that you have difficulty comprehending what I have written because I've provided facts each time and I have not seen you say anything but Andrew Johnson from patsfans forum doesn't think Tebow can do it so it can't happen.. That's our conversation in a nutshell..

 

[Sciz]

Are you really telling me that if you needed a special teams player you would choose Tebow over Develin to fill that role? Please tell me that.

If I were picking a player to instantly step in on special teams, I'd pick neither because they're both crappy options. For the future, I think Tebow has a higher ceiling than Develin, and with my 90th roster spot of the offseason, I'm swinging for the fences.

 

[Brady6]

Develin played 1 game.
He earned that spot on special teams, he earned his spot in the NFL in 2011 on special teams.
Are you really telling me that if you needed a special teams player you would choose Tebow over Develin to fill that role? Please tell me that.

Huh? He played one game his entire career in 2012 against SF.. He didn't do anything on ST in 2011

 

[Ring 6]

If I were picking a player to instantly step in on special teams, I'd pick neither because they're both crappy options.

That wasnt a choice. You are implying Tebow is a better special teams player. I called you out. You apparently dodge accpeting that.

For the future, I think Tebow has a higher ceiling than Develin, and with my 90th roster spot of the offseason, I'm swinging for the fences.

IF we need a blocking FB, Develin is by far a better choice.
If we don't need a FB, we need neither.
What ceiling do you think Tebow has? A FB blocks. Tebow has never thrown a block.
Develin is only a comparison if you are pimping Tebow as a FB. If you have other designs then we would find the best player for whatever role you are talking about.

 

[Ring 6]

Huh? He played one game his entire career in 2012 against SF.. He didn't do anything on ST in 2011

The comment was the Develin made an offseason roster out of college as a converted DE. That was with the Bengals in 2011.

 

[Brady6]

Nothing I said is based at all on personal feelings. It is about Tebows lack of ability to help the team. You on the other hand are championing signing a guy to do something he has never done, simply because you like him.


1) I have no issue with Tebows work ethic. I'm sue he is a quality person.
2) He is not an NFL caliber football player.
3) He isn't going to play QB so what does the game vs Pttisburgh, or Denvers game vs Baltimore this year have to do with anything?



The same as why we don't bring in 1000s of other players. There are better options. There is nothing Tebow can do well enough to help this team.
Are you really saying not being able to help the team is a poor reason to not sign a player?

Actually I don't like him can't stand to be honest. I just think that with 90 spots at camp opening it's really dumb not to allow him a chance if he wants it. We just signed Vega out of the CFL under the same pretense that I am suggesting for Tebow. See what's there otherwise cut the line and move on.

 

[Brady6]

The comment was the Develin made an offseason roster out of college as a converted DE. That was with the Bengals in 2011.

Tebow was a first round pick.. What's your point?

 

[Ring 6]

They aren't? So Devlin was special? Edelman was special.. Hell they let Ebner try a different sport so he must of been really special.

We aren't looking for 53 'special' players. We are looking for players to fill roles.

You do realize our hall of fame QB was a 6th round pick that we gave an opportunity to?

What does that have to do with anything?
If I accept your argument, we should bring everyone who would like to come to camp in, because who knows maybe they might turn into something.
We only get 80 spots.

Andrew I am not insulting you at all it is very obvious to me that you have difficulty comprehending what I have written because I've provided facts each time and I have not seen you say anything but Andrew Johnson from patsfans forum doesn't think Tebow can do it so it can't happen.. That's our conversation in a nutshell..

Please list 3 FACTS you have provided.
I have read and clearly understood everything you have said. It all adds up to why not give the guy a shot even though there is nothing to lead us to believe he can contribute.
Again, show me these FACTS.

 

[Ring 6]

Tebow was a first round pick.. What's your point?

My point is that I was answering the comment that was made.

 

[Brady6]

That wasnt a choice. You are implying Tebow is a better special teams player. I called you out. You apparently dodge accpeting that.



IF we need a blocking FB, Develin is by far a better choice.
If we don't need a FB, we need neither.
What ceiling do you think Tebow has? A FB blocks. Tebow has never thrown a block.
Develin is only a comparison if you are pimping Tebow as a FB. If you have other designs then we would find the best player for whatever role you are talking about.

No he actually just said who took more ST snaps

 

[Ring 6]

Actually I don't like him can't stand to be honest. I just think that with 90 spots at camp opening it's really dumb not to allow him a chance if he wants it. We just signed Vega out of the CFL under the same pretense that I am suggesting for Tebow. See what's there otherwise cut the line and move on.

Vega has a position, and BB scouted him and believes he has a chance to make the team.
Tebow doesn't have a position that we could use him at that he has ever played. Sure maybe he could be good at some position he never played before. But why would we waste time and a roster spot on that instead of on a guy who actually plays the position and has the skills?

 

[Ring 6]

No he actually just said who took more ST snaps

I can't read for you.

 

[Brady6]

We aren't looking for 53 'special' players. We are looking for players to fill roles.


What does that have to do with anything?
If I accept your argument, we should bring everyone who would like to come to camp in, because who knows maybe they might turn into something.
We only get 80 spots.


Please list 3 FACTS you have provided.
I have read and clearly understood everything you have said. It all adds up to why not give the guy a shot even though there is nothing to lead us to believe he can contribute.
Again, show me these FACTS.

You want me to re type everything? Only if you promise to sound out the words so I can be certain you can understand this time.. Otherwise just scroll back and read my posts over and over till you get it.. Ok

 

[Brady6]

My point is that I was answering the comment that was made.

That Devlin made the NFL as a UDFA so he is a better than Tebow.. Oh ok that makes sense

 

[Ring 6]

You want me to re type everything? Only if you promise to sound out the words so I can be certain you can understand this time.. Otherwise just scroll back and read my posts over and over till you get it.. Ok

Nope, I am asking you to repost what you call FACTS because you claim you posted FACTS and I read every post and found ZERO.
I'm not asking you to retype, I'm calling you out, that there is nothing to retype because you haven't used a FACT all night to support your whim of a position.

 

[Sciz]

That wasnt a choice. You are implying Tebow is a better special teams player. I called you out. You apparently dodge accpeting that.

Your argument: Develin is a clearly better ST player than Tebow
My argument: Develin is not a clearly better ST player than Tebow
Your interpretation of my argument: Tebow is a better ST player than Develin

 

[Ring 6]

That Devlin made the NFL as a UDFA so he is a better than Tebow.. Oh ok that makes sense

Again, I can't read for you.
Go back and read, and you will learn something, and understand why the comment was made in DIRECT response to a DIRECT statement about the exact piece of information.

Look, i'm done. You must have to get on the school bus early tomorrow, so you should get some sleep.

 

[DocHoliday]

The #1 job of a FB is to block. What makes you think Tebow can do that?

What makes you think he can't? If he spent some time learning I think he can do it.

Good enough to make the 53? That's another question but I have no doubt in my mind Tebow can play fullback.

 

[Ring 6]

Your argument: Develin is a clearly better ST player than Tebow

Develin made a football team primarily due to special teams.
In fact, though that was not my argument.

My argument: Develin is not a clearly better ST player than Tebow

Tebow has never played special teams other than as a gimmick.

Your interpretation of my argument: Tebow is a better ST player than Develin

NONONO. I asked you who you would choose to play special teams and you dodged the question.

 

[Brady6]

Vega has a position, and BB scouted him and believes he has a chance to make the team.
Tebow doesn't have a position that we could use him at that he has ever played. Sure maybe he could be good at some position he never played before. But why would we waste time and a roster spot on that instead of on a guy who actually plays the position and has the skills?

We do it year in and year out.. No risk no reward my not so good of a reader friend..