Gronk needs an off-season chaperone

[BrickPat]

Reference 1 single event where Gronk was partying or doing something that caused him injury that affected his professional career. He hasn't, yet people are persecuting him for drinking and having a good time with his friend. He lifted his friend with his good arm, hes a behemoth and that is an effortless action for someone of his size and strength. The casts they put on broken bones are hard as a rock, so him falling to the ground, even if it smacked against something, wouldn't do anything to his arm, there just isn't enough force to break through that cast and cause a significant impact on the bone.

Again, he wasn't doing this during the season. The season is OVER. They don't play a game for 7 months, he could go break his other forearm tomorrow and would still be 110% for training camp. People are blowing something so silly and dumb out of proportion.. Gee what else is new with our society and culture these days? Blowing things out of proportion? NAHHH, we would never do that!

The absence of Gronk not getting injured doing wrestling moves (on a twice broken/surgically repaired arm) in the off season isn't exactly a justification that he should be doing it.

Once AGAIN no one is saying Gronk can't shag supermodels, party like a rock star and get pie faced in his off time. I would be doing the exact same thing- no argument there. However to expect him to refrain from wrestlling to risk further hurting his just surgically repaired arm is not the same as saying he can't party, bang chicks, etc.

As far your observation about how quickly Gronk can heal from an off season injury...how do you know he will be 110% with further injury? Are you an MD? True he was not hurt this time but what if he breaks his arm in late August doing a DDT wrestling move on his brother? Why can't he party and rehab without risking needless injury? At what point does common sense factor into the equation?

Pro sports contracts routinely have clauses spelling out conditions relative to potentially hazardous off season activities. Some of you guys act like Gronk is in flag football rec league. Gronk isn't- he is a highly compensated professional athlete under contract. I love Gronk as much as anyone but the bag licking worshippers are forgetting that the Patriots likely don't approve of the oft injured Gronk needlessly risking injury in the off season. It's easy to for us to say no big deal, I mean sure we want the team to do well as fans but it's not our multi millions invested in the player/franchise to worry about.

 

[IllegalContact]

Hes 23, he doesn't need to ruin his life yet by getting married. I think getting married in your 20's is a mistake, but at 23 hes way too young to be settling down with 1 person for the rest of his life. He needs to get out there and date, have fun, be crazy and wild, then maybe when hes a bit older he'll want to settle down and make some babies.

yaaah baby!!!!

 

[IllegalContact]

well........if the pats don't like it, they can always part ways with him...but its their own damned fault......they knew who they were giving big money to when they extended him.....just look at him last offseason

the broken arm is actually the fault of the coaching staff, but let's not get into that.

The absence of Gronk not getting injured doing wrestling moves (on a twice broken/surgically repaired arm) in the off season isn't exactly a justification that he should be doing it.

Once AGAIN no one is saying Gronk can't shag supermodels, party like a rock star and get pie faced in his off time. I would be doing the exact same thing- no argument there. However to expect him to refrain from wrestlling to risk further hurting his just surgically repaired arm is not the same as saying he can't party, bang chicks, etc.

As far your observation about how quickly Gronk can heal from an off season injury...how do you know he will be 110% with further injury? Are you an MD? True he was not hurt this time but what if he breaks his arm in late August doing a DDT wrestling move on his brother? Why can't he party and rehab without risking needless injury? At what point does common sense factor into the equation?

Pro sports contracts routinely have clauses spelling out conditions relative to potentially hazardous off season activities. Some of you guys act like Gronk is in flag football rec league. Gronk isn't- he is a highly compensated professional athlete under contract. I love Gronk as much as anyone but the bag licking worshippers are forgetting that the Patriots likely don't approve of the oft injured Gronk needlessly risking injury in the off season. It's easy to for us to say no big deal, I mean sure we want the team to do well as fans but it's not our multi millions invested in the player/franchise to worry about.

 

[IllegalContact]

hey....cerebrals

tell me which patriiot DID NOT quit on this play....

 

[IllegalContact]

anyway....let me know if he ever hurts himself off the field

 

[supafly]

If that's your nature, well, then you don't understand most other people's. In this specific case, it's in that other person's best interest to take the opposite viewpoint. That's what pays off for him, not "seeing the light" and changing his stance after being educated by you.
First and foremost, people care about themSELVES.
You have to ask yourself the question,"Does it pay for this person to reject his OWN stance and come over to my side?"

No whay. He'd have to reject his prior thinking, which is not in his own best interest.
That impedes on his sense of self & personal identity.

Take of those rose colored glasses & pick up a psychology book sometime ands learn the truth about people's innermost natures.

I appreciate the response.

Believe it or not, I am very well rehersed in Psychology having just completed my 3rd degree which consisted of many psych courses for upper management police administration and criminal justice related issues. It isn't about "not understanding human nature," it's about trying to be patient and responding to those who I want to respond to. In this case I felt that giving him the other side of the reasoning, like just about 100% of the members here have done at one point.

If there were significant proof that lasted for days or weeks on end that this person was definitely a troll, then I would not have bothered. It was the first time that I'd ever seen him before, and while the thought did cross my mind (depending upon your definition of a troll) I tend to give others the benefit of the doubt most of the time.

He didn't sound like someone who was claiming that the team sucked etc, he sounded like someone who honestly believed that Belichick was the root of the loss. To each his own, right?

The fact that someone would even bother trying to boss around someone for responding to the wrong person is laughable to me, as it only went on for a brief period of time. There are many features, threads, and different forums for others to use if they don't feel like reading something for 10 minutes or so.

 

[supafly]

anyway....let me know if he ever hurts himself off the field

It isn't the anyone questions his effort on the field or that anyone wishes he didn't play that hard on the field.

It's that he's shown some really immature behavior that most 23 yr olds don't show at this point in their lives, particular when you are wrestling with a broken arm.

If that sounds reasonable to you, then great. It's a free country right?

In the meantime, don't be surprised to see it on every sports news channel in the country, as apparently we "cerebrals" aren't the only ones who have an issue with it.

Again....I don't think that he did much wrong, but he needs to start using some better judgment. That's just my opinion, and you are entitled to yours..which I also understand to some degree.

 

[Koma]

The media makes me absolutely SICK. This is blown WAY out of proportion. Unbelievable.

I can understand Gronk getting attention, but did anyone from the 49ers crack a smile when they were out on the town after the SB? If so, where are the pictures? Where are the pictures of impoverished children overseas wearing "49ers Super Bowl Champions" t-shirts?

 

[supafly]

I can understand Gronk getting attention, but did anyone from the 49ers crack a smile when they were out on the town after the SB? If so, where are the pictures? Where are the pictures of impoverished children overseas wearing "49ers Super Bowl Champions" t-shirts?

See, that's the line that is crossed in my opinion.

I couldn't care less about Gronk getting drunk and dancing after the SB loss, or what he does with porn stars in his spare time. That's where the media is just absurd.

The only thing he's done that could be considered wrong, depending upon your point of view, is taking some unnecessary risks to his injuries by acting immature and questionably/arguably making some bad decisions.

That's the only concern that about 95% of us have, that he isn't using his head sometimes, particularly in key recovery periods. He likes attention, and he certainly is not very bright, but other than that he hasn't done much wrong.

The only debate should be whether or not he should tone down some of his choices as it pertains to aggrevating injuries, and that is what I would imagine the team is concerned about--although they may not be.

 

[JarOfMayo51]

holy cow lol, i only looked at still shots of him doing that because I was at work. Just watched the full video... omg what a joke to even write this article.. The only news worthy story in this entire thing was how horrible his dancing was.

He put all of his body weight onto his right side and just fell backwards onto his friend... this is a total joke of an article, i cant believe this got 15 pages of replies.


My god

 

[supafly]

holy cow lol, i only looked at still shots of him doing that because I was at work. Just watched the full video... omg what a joke to even write this article.. The only news worthy story in this entire thing was how horrible his dancing was.

He put all of his body weight onto his right side and just fell backwards onto his friend... this is a total joke of an article, i cant believe this got 15 pages of replies.


My god

It's a story that was plastered on every single sports channel and newspaper in the entire country today, are you really that surprised that it got 15 pages of replies on a Patriots related forum?

Any time you have a player who continues to partake in any type of semi-risky behavior more than once while they are recovering from injuries, there are people who are going to feel some concern. You may not be one of those people, and I get that, but I'm not sure how "surprised" you should feel either.

Your thoughts are understood, and I actually agree with you about some of the stuff, but the majority of fans are going to wonder why the hell you'd do this again. They are also going to wonder how smart he is, and how mature. It's just part of being in the limelight that comes with the territory.

 

[supafly]

He put all of his body weight onto his right side and just fell backwards onto his friend... this is a total joke of an article, i cant believe this got 15 pages of replies.


My god

And not to nitpick due to the fact that we have a difference of opinions on this topic, but you can clearly see the arm and cast itself bounce right off of the stage when he falls, so it's not like the arm wasn't in the picture at all like you are saying.

I don't actually even know what the big disagreement is about? Those who are concerned have that right, just as you have the right to ignore those concerns, but wrestling and bouncing your 2x broken arm in a cast off of the stage while wrestling is obviously not going to be viewed as "smart" or mature behavior by the high majority of halfway intelligent people.

Now if you're making a case that the story is somewhat overblown, then I would agree with you, just as I would about his post-SB dancing and time spent with a porn star. Those things have no bearing on his potential career. Continuing to engage in risky behavior during recovery periods however, does.

 

[Deus Irae]

holy cow lol, i only looked at still shots of him doing that because I was at work. Just watched the full video... omg what a joke to even write this article.. The only news worthy story in this entire thing was how horrible his dancing was.

He put all of his body weight onto his right side and just fell backwards onto his friend... this is a total joke of an article, i cant believe this got 15 pages of replies.


My god

It's none of our business.... so why'd you look?

 

[JarOfMayo51]

It's a story that was plastered on every single sports channel and newspaper in the entire country today, are you really that surprised that it got 15 pages of replies on a Patriots related forum?

Any time you have a player who continues to partake in any type of semi-risky behavior more than once while they are recovering from injuries, there are people who are going to feel some concern. You may not be one of those people, and I get that, but I'm not sure how "surprised" you should feel either.

Your thoughts are understood, and I actually agree with you about some of the stuff, but the majority of fans are going to wonder why the hell you'd do this again. They are also going to wonder how smart he is, and how mature. It's just part of being in the limelight that comes with the territory.

He wasn't doing anything different than he did last year after the SB loss. He is a mini celebrity so people constantly follow him around and take his picture.. This is just who he is and I think people are getting way carried away with just how fragile they think this guy is... he is a fricken VIKING, hes the type of guy thousands of years ago that would come off of a ship and everyone in the village would turn the other way and run for their life... This is not some joe schmoe who sits on his couch drinking beers, he is a physical specimen and that controlled fall of his was a 0.3 on a scale of 1 to 10 as far as how much force he was using.. and it was on the healthy side of his body, his other arm bounced on the floor from having it stretched out, but hes in a thick, rock hard cast.. you can't even feel something like that when you're in a cast.. i think most anyone who has experienced a broken arm before would agree with that.

I was expecting like an off the top rope WWE move or something.. i can't believe he just grabbed his friend and then control fell backwards onto him... its literally nothing. This is the type of "news" that sports writers have to work with during an offseason i guess.. its pretty sad that they even took time to write this article, but I guess I see why they do... because the herd of cattle come running to tear it off the shelves to read every ridiculous article that they write.

 

[IllegalContact]

what's funny is how certain people from the bill parcells says that pats fans are spoiled thread who agreed with parcells and said that other fans are spoiled, are on this thread acting spoiled

 

[tonyto3690]

Just saw the video for the first time...


THAT is what people were making a big fuss about? Seriously? The way people were talking about it, I was expecting a 15 foot backflip body slam. For cripes sakes, you might as well wrap him in a bubble and tell him he is never allowed to sit down for the amount of movement and risk he put in it.

He's what, 24? Prime of his life millionaire with the personality to match. He's allowed to enjoy himself. Dancing is not an unnecessary risk to his career.

I mean once it gets to the summer and we're hearing he isn't working out and is out partying instead then I might be a bit disappointed. But it's freaking february 5th. He just spent 4 months getting his body viciously beat by 300 pound roided up men.

Give him a freaking break.

 

[zipster9]

It's a story that was plastered on every single sports channel and newspaper in the entire country today, are you really that surprised that it got 15 pages of replies on a Patriots related forum?

Any time you have a player who continues to partake in any type of semi-risky behavior more than once while they are recovering from injuries, there are people who are going to feel some concern. You may not be one of those people, and I get that, but I'm not sure how "surprised" you should feel either.

Your thoughts are understood, and I actually agree with you about some of the stuff, but the majority of fans are going to wonder why the hell you'd do this again. They are also going to wonder how smart he is, and how mature. It's just part of being in the limelight that comes with the territory.

I wouldve thought Patriots negotiators put in some stipulations in Gronks new contract about taking up dangerous sports, etc..

 

[RhodyPatriot]

He wasn't doing anything different than he did last year after the SB loss. He is a mini celebrity so people constantly follow him around and take his picture.. This is just who he is and I think people are getting way carried away with just how fragile they think this guy is... he is a fricken VIKING, hes the type of guy thousands of years ago that would come off of a ship and everyone in the village would turn the other way and run for their life... This is not some joe schmoe who sits on his couch drinking beers, he is a physical specimen and that controlled fall of his was a 0.3 on a scale of 1 to 10 as far as how much force he was using.. and it was on the healthy side of his body, his other arm bounced on the floor from having it stretched out, but hes in a thick, rock hard cast.. you can't even feel something like that when you're in a cast.. i think most anyone who has experienced a broken arm before would agree with that.

I was expecting like an off the top rope WWE move or something.. i can't believe he just grabbed his friend and then control fell backwards onto him... its literally nothing. This is the type of "news" that sports writers have to work with during an offseason i guess.. its pretty sad that they even took time to write this article, but I guess I see why they do... because the herd of cattle come running to tear it off the shelves to read every ridiculous article that they write.

23 year old "Fricken Vikings" don't snap bones blocking at the line on a "fricken kick". (pssst, overuse of 'roids can cause bones to become brittle, just sayin')
Mr. Physical Specimen can't stay on the field during the most important time of the year.
Not some joe schmoe is making 50 million dollars from the NE Patriots and is currently under medical supervision by his 50 million dollar employer for his TWICE BROKEN ARM left arm. You know, that same arm that was in the black cast he was wrestling with on stage in Vegas. Schmoe also has a history of back surgery. Only a matter of time before that flares up.
Along with the beers and those "protein shakes" of his perhaps Gronk also needs to stop making a fool of himself and actually become a man and a professional.
Sorry but Gronk's inability to stay on the field has cost this team championship hardware.
I don't find Gronk's personna cute and cuddly at this point. The novelty of Gronk is OVER. He's showing himself to be quite immature and an outright moron who's heading in one of two career directions. Meet the next Kellen Winslow or a future spokesman for Planet Fitness.

 

[DaBruinz]

The right arm was around the guy's head, left arm hit the deck. Put your spectacles on.

From the video's written caption: .. when the superstar tight end BODY SLAMMED his friend on stage at a Las Vegas nightclub ... landing hard on his broken forearm ... and TMZ has the footage.

Regardless, evidence anecdotal and otherwise is mounting that Gronk does not hold his booze well. Intervention at some level might be wise.

I suggest you go back and look because the LEFT ARM disappears behind people, you can't see what it does. So you have no idea if he landed hard on his arm or if it was just TMZ sensationalizing a piece. I mean, they NEVER do that and they ALWAYS tell it like it is...

BTW, that wasn't a body slam. That move is a DDT. Huge difference between the two. Do yourself (and everyone else) a favor and stop with the tabloid nonsense.

The only evidence that I see mounting is that you are the Gossip queen of this board. You are so quick to damn other people, yet your **** stinks just as much as everyone elses.. If not more...

 

[DaBruinz]

Please, tell me you're kidding DaBruinz. You've got to be.

Why would I be kidding. It's plain as day what wrestling move that Gronk did.

It's called a DDT. He has his right arm around his friend's head. Gronk fall's backwards. He left arm disappears behind at least 2 people so you can't see if it actually HIT the stage or not. He also get's right back up, no worse for wear.
A Body Slam entails LIFTING the opponents body up, over your head, and then dropping them onto their back.

This is clearly a case of Tunescribe the Town Crier trying to make this out to be more than it is. Just as TMZ is doing.