Two writers think Pats hiring McDaniels is unfair

[NYCPatsFan]

Add ESPN 'reporter' Ed Werder in Denver to this list. I heard him say this evening (around 6.30PM EST on their main channel) that though it is routine for all coaches to sign opponents to pick their brain, BB has "taken it to the next level....hiring the man who used to be the HC 13 months earlier".

This kind of a moronic but horrible smear on national TV by BSPN gets my blood boiling.

I hope the Pats too are pissed off with this and circle the wagon to demolish every single opponent until they hold the SB trophy.

 

[Wolfpack]

Woody Paige's piece is disgustingly pathetic. I don't know how that guy has a job. It's the kind of garbage you'd see from a biased Jets fan on theganggreen.

He has a job because everytime he writes something stupid, it gets people like us all riled up and we talk about him, which gives him the exact publicity he's looking for in the first place.

 

[Froob]

I don't really think it should be allowed but at the same time I don't think it will help much. I don't think you should be able to steal other teams coaches during the season but picking up others who aren't on a team is okay with me. Again I see this as a minor pick up.

 

[JoeSixPat]

As I'm sure has been pointed out the Broncos themsevlves did the same thing in 89 with Mike Shanahan.

Actually it was worse for them ... McDaniels was fired a year ago...in 1989 the Broncos faced the Raiders in the regular season. After Shanahan was fired by the Raiders the Broncos hired him a few weeks later going into the playoffs, where they faced the Raiders.

Why the double standard? When other teams do it you hear nothing. When the Patriots do it, it's cheating?

 

[SVN]

NFL Video - NFL - FOX Sports on MSN

Even brian billick

 

[SVN]

Every playoff game last 2 yrs there is a bombshell or controversy right before the pats play. Last yr it was jay glazer showing tape that pats also employ people on the sideline to trip opposing runners. 2007 it was superbowl tape gate.
Wait till saturday. There will be more crap on the patriots.

 

[Wolfpack]

Every playoff game last 2 yrs there is a bombshell or controversy right before the pats play. Last yr it was jay glazer showing tape that pats also employ people on the sideline to trip opposing runners. 2007 it was superbowl tape gate.
Wait till saturday. There will be more crap on the patriots.

The alleged Super Bowl video was a bombshell. The other examples you provide are nothing more than footnotes, easily and quickly forgotten.

But that makes now as good a time as any to remind the folks that John Tomase is a true scumbag with no journalistic integrity whatsoever who reported something that was 100% proven false and he (and his newspaper) had to make a full, front page retraction and he probably permanently damaged his entire career. Just want to throw that out there lest people forget.

 

[SVN]

The alleged Super Bowl video was a bombshell. The other examples you provide are nothing more than footnotes, easily and quickly forgotten.

But that makes now as good a time as any to remind the folks that John Tomase is a true scumbag with no journalistic integrity whatsoever who reported something that was 100% proven false and he (and his newspaper) had to make a full, front page retraction and he probably permanently damaged his entire career. Just want to throw that out there lest people forget.

Well what i meant was on eve of every playoff game there is something -ve about the pats which is revealed for no reason but to distract the team.

 

[Koma]

Every playoff game last 2 yrs there is a bombshell or controversy right before the pats play. Last yr it was jay glazer showing tape that pats also employ people on the sideline to trip opposing runners. 2007 it was superbowl tape gate.
Wait till saturday. There will be more crap on the patriots.

You're right. There probably is more stuff coming for Saturday.

I had forgotten about the "Patriots Trip People, Too" video. What was ridiculous about that was no one on the Patriots tripped anyone.

From what I remember of the video, after a play, a Patriots reserve O-lineman stuck his foot out as a player on the other team jogged past him. He missed and the opposing player continued on without incident. It was a stupid, unnecessary move by the Patriots player. It was also, as far as we know, a stupid spontaneous move by one guy. And the end result was, nothing happened.

That hardly compares to the Jets situation where they had a conditioning coach and practice squad players lining up in an area of the sideline where they weren't allowed for the express purpose of obstructing opposing players on punt coverage. And they ended up tripping a guy during a game.

It really is surreal to think that there was this controversy surrounding the Jets and someone in the media decided that they had to dig up some example of the Patriots doing something that was kinda sorta along the same lines. Why was Glazer helping the Jets? It wasn't like the Patriots turned in the Jets for the tripping incident. Or the Jets tripped a Patriots player. The only reason the Patriots even got mentioned in the story was that the Jets special teams coach dragged them into it to deflect attention from his own problems.

Sorry. Rant about year old subject over.

 

[Nikolai]

Eh, I think it's unfair to the rest of the league that the Pats have Brady and BB, but I'm fine with it.

 

[Armchair Bronco]

If it smells fishy, and it looks fishy, and it tastes fishy, and it feels fishy and scaly and slimy, then the chances are REALLY, REALLY good that it's a rotten fish you're eating.

The fish monger can keep telling you how it's a delicious piece of salmon, 100% approved by the FDA no less. But that doesn't change the fact that it's fishy.

All BB had to do was announce the hiring but then say that Joshy would be watching the Denver game from home.

AND: I predict that there will be a new rule in a year or two preventing this kind of post-season hiring. It'll be called "The McDaniels Rule".

 

[Deus Irae]

If it smells fishy, and it looks fishy, and it tastes fishy, and it feels fishy and scaly and slimy, then the chances are REALLY, REALLY good that it's a rotten fish you're eating.

The fish monger can keep telling you how it's a delicious piece of salmon, 100% approved by the FDA no less. But that doesn't change the fact that it's fishy.

All BB had to do was announce the hiring but then say that Joshy would be watching the Denver game from home.

AND: I predict that there will be a new rule in a year or two preventing this kind of post-season hiring. It'll be called "The McDaniels Rule".

You're really lousy at trolling, and Herm Edwards, just to point to one ex-coach, doesn't agree with your comments.

 

[Armchair Bronco]

You're really lousy at trolling, and Herm Edwards, just to point to one ex-coach, doesn't agree with your comments.

Would that be Herm "We Play To WIN The Game!" Edwards?

Seriously, that guy was a bad coach and he's an even worse media pundit. Actually, I've given up on ALL the talking heads on ESPN and whatnot.

 

[Deus Irae]

Would that be Herm "We Play To WIN The Game!" Edwards?

Seriously, that guy was a bad coach and he's an even worse media pundit. Actually, I've given up on ALL the talking heads on ESPN and whatnot.

His ability to coach is irrelevant. His not giving a damn about the McDaniels move, as a coach, is what matters.

For the record, Mangini was fine with the move as well, but I didn't want to have the first coach I pointed to be one of the Belichick tree.

Face it. It's a non-issue that's got the ignorant and the foolish worked up. Hell, as soon as you saw that it was Paige and Klis leading the charge, you should have known it was nonsense.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

If it smells fishy, and it looks fishy, and it tastes fishy, and it feels fishy and scaly and slimy, then the chances are REALLY, REALLY good that it's a rotten fish you're eating.

The fish monger can keep telling you how it's a delicious piece of salmon, 100% approved by the FDA no less. But that doesn't change the fact that it's fishy.

All BB had to do was announce the hiring but then say that Joshy would be watching the Denver game from home.

AND: I predict that there will be a new rule in a year or two preventing this kind of post-season hiring. It'll be called "The McDaniels Rule".

That would have been a tough thing to do since he hired him before the game was ever played and 99% of the world outside of Denver assumed there wouldn't be another Denver game this season...

They were in competition with at least one if not two other teams, KC and Atlanta for Josh's services. Neither of those teams was prepared to pull the trigger though since one hadn't finalized it's HCing decision yet and had a leftover OC on the roster from their previous regime and the other had just found out their OC was interviewing for the HC job in Jacksonville - and who would have predicted that new owner would be foolish enough to hired him. Here we knew that our OC was moving on to a college job and would be juggling two jobs throughout the playoffs.

So we sought permission to interview Josh late in the week and the interview was done on Friday night or Saturday morning although it was essentially a formality. And the word on the hiring filtered out well before kickoff of the Denver game. The Patriots tend to lag behind on official announcements. In fact this one was probably timed as it was just to tweek your bumbling organization...

Fishy salmon analogies...sure you're not a displaced Seahawks fan?

 

[Uncle Rico]

I get a kick out of lines like "what's keeping the Broncos from bringing in Spagnuolo" or "how would the Patriots like it if Denver brought in Mangini?" I say go for it! Shouldn't be too disruptive or insulting to your staff who have worked all year long. And the players will love changing systems before a playoff game.

 

[PatriotsReign]

I can't believe 24 people voted "NO" on allowing a team to add a coach late in the season.

I'd LOVE to read one good reason to support a no vote as I don't believe there is one. Must have been 24 irrelevant non-Patriots fans

 

[Uncle Rico]

That would have been a tough thing to do since he hired him before the game was ever played and 99% of the world outside of Denver assumed there wouldn't be another Denver game this season...

They were in competition with at least one if not two other teams, KC and Atlanta for Josh's services. Neither of those teams was prepared to pull the trigger though since one hadn't finalized it's HCing decision yet and had a leftover OC on the roster from their previous regime and the other had just found out their OC was interviewing for the HC job in Jacksonville - and who would have predicted that new owner would be foolish enough to hired him. Here we knew that our OC was moving on to a college job and would be juggling two jobs throughout the playoffs.

So we sought permission to interview Josh late in the week and the interview was done on Friday night or Saturday morning although it was essentially a formality. And the word on the hiring filtered out well before kickoff of the Denver game. The Patriots tend to lag behind on official announcements. In fact this one was probably timed as it was just to tweek your bumbling organization...

Fishy salmon analogies...sure you're not a displaced Seahawks fan?

Exactly. I guess there's just too much nuance to this story for people to understand.

 

[Armchair Bronco]

There's NO WAY Josh "QB Killer" McD would have received any offers from KC, Atlanta, or even the Barcelona Barnstormers.

The *ONLY* team he had any chance with was New England. As a talent evaluator and a coordinator, he's in his element. Even McStalin haters in Denver know that.

But put him in a position of real power, and the guy went nuts and imploded a competitive franchise is less than 2 years...in fact, he did it all in the pre-season leading up to his first year!

 

[Deus Irae]

There's NO WAY Josh "QB Killer" McD would have received any offers from KC, Atlanta, or even the Barcelona Barnstormers.

The *ONLY* team he had any chance with was New England. As a talent evaluator and a coordinator, he's in his element. Even McStalin haters in Denver know that.

But put him in a position of real power, and the guy went nuts and imploded a competitive franchise is less than 2 years...in fact, he did it all in the pre-season leading up to his first year!

The Chiefs sent a request to the Rams asking to talk with him. Do you have any other nonsensical theories you'd like smashed in about 3 seconds?