PFT: Moss would return if Pats come calling

[s3antana5757]

Also, Chad Jackson is available. :bricks:

Is Troy Brown available to play CB?

 

[Lansdowne]

Moss is a wild card at this point.

He's not going to get much money, and he'll never get a big contract. There is literally no incentive for him to be on his best behavior moneywise.

The only thing left for him is to improve his legacy and go out on a good note. I'm not sure that's enough of an incentive. I don't think it is. Given that he turned down the Patriots' earlier offer, he may still be deluding himself.

As the years go by, he may think back on his 2010 season and how his career ended, and then he might consider how in the summer of 2011, he turned down a 1 year offer from the Patriots.

He'll have a lot of regrets.

I admit to having a very hard time over how the Patriots WR situation has been handled since 2006. Grabbing Welker and Moss has been great, but the whole Branch thing--awful! Especially when you consider that the Branch pick brought in Meriweather. Given the waste of money over the years for players like Duane Starks, etc., I start to see the benefit of giving the Deion Branch's the $7 million they request.

This was never confirmed. If you're going by Cris Carter, then he meant last season as an extension.

 

[goheels22002]

That article was the worst piece of hearsay reporting.

Moss should go to the Jets and they can send the wheel-chair patrol out on third and long.

I have a headache.

 

[Rob0729]

And they were bounced in their 1st play-off game, so before we start saying that the Pats were great and everything without him, their season was a failure. IF he's ready to come back and do the things we need, them I'm for it. If he's going to jog through routes on plays that the ball isn't going to him, forget it. He's only 3 seasons removed from being unguardable and was a top 5 WR in the NFL in the next 2.

I do have to admit watching the Pats/Jets playoff game that if the Pats had Moss getting totally abused by Antonio Cromartie and Brady got picked off a few more time because he is forcing the ball into Moss that the Pats win that game by three TDs.

Sorry, not having Moss was not the reason the Pats lost the playoff game. Moss has lost Brady's trust on the field. He is done.

 

[Uncle Rico]

... Moss has lost Brady's trust on the field. He is done.

Agree 100%. That last game against Miami, Brady gave him the cold shoulder both on and off the field; Brady was pretty pumped about the win and I think a lot of that was "this team is moving on."

 

[Ring 6]

Said it before, say it again. I'm all for Randy Moss coming back. Seems like he's ate a slice of humble pie and just wants back in.

Now if he could only regenerate his skiils we'd be all set.

 

[The Scrizz]

Now if he could only regenerate his skiils we'd be all set.

I really don't know if he lost his skills that quickly. That's what they thought in Oakland. I really think he just completely shut down mentally (like he did in Oakland), with the only difference being instead of waking up on the Pats he suddenly found himself Minnesota and completely imploded from there.

I don't want him back but there are worse players to have on a shadow roster than Randy Moss.

 

[Ring 6]

I really don't know if he lost his skills that quickly. That's what they thought in Oakland. I really think he just completely shut down mentally (like he did in Oakland), with the only difference being instead of waking up on the Pats he suddenly found himself Minnesota and completely imploded from there.

I don't want him back but there are worse players to have on a shadow roster than Randy Moss.

See, I just dont agree. Moss' game was based on him being a physical freak, and with a decline in that ability he becomes less than mediocre.
Clearly he is an incomplete WR who will not go over the middle and shrinks from being hit.
His acceleration and ability to make a play on a ball in the air, separated him. Without those, what do you have? A guy who runs deep, gets covered and wants the ball.
The Jet game last year CLEARLY indicated to me that either Moss gave up, or Moss wasn't the same Moss anymore. For the first time I ever remember he was flat out outrun to a deep ball by Cromartie and Cromartie was gaining on him. On the other Int on the back shoulder throw Moss looked like a ballet dancer weakly reaching one arm at the ball instead of going after it.
After that game my first impression was Brady played poorly.
When I went back I realized that Brady actually played well, throwing to a single covered Moss in what should have been a total mismatch, but it wasn't any more. I was uncertain whether that was Moss just not trying or Moss being unable to do what he had done in the past.
What happened after he left here answered that question to me, and it wasnt that he didnt care to earn another contract. When you look back its clear the decline started in 2009 also.

 

[Bobs My Uncle]

See, I just dont agree. Moss' game was based on him being a physical freak, and with a decline in that ability he becomes less than mediocre.
Clearly he is an incomplete WR who will not go over the middle and shrinks from being hit.
His acceleration and ability to make a play on a ball in the air, separated him. Without those, what do you have? A guy who runs deep, gets covered and wants the ball.
The Jet game last year CLEARLY indicated to me that either Moss gave up, or Moss wasn't the same Moss anymore. For the first time I ever remember he was flat out outrun to a deep ball by Cromartie and Cromartie was gaining on him. On the other Int on the back shoulder throw Moss looked like a ballet dancer weakly reaching one arm at the ball instead of going after it.
After that game my first impression was Brady played poorly.
When I went back I realized that Brady actually played well, throwing to a single covered Moss in what should have been a total mismatch, but it wasn't any more. I was uncertain whether that was Moss just not trying or Moss being unable to do what he had done in the past.
What happened after he left here answered that question to me, and it wasnt that he didnt care to earn another contract. When you look back its clear the decline started in 2009 also.

Moss still averaged a TD a game the last time he suited up as a starter for the Pats.

If one values scoring TD's as being productive then Moss still was a very productive player at the time he was jettisoned off the Pats roster.

I would strongly argue that attitude, not lack of production, was what caused Moss's termination as a Pats player.

 

[Bonzo]

I feel like Moss would be a legitimate threat in the Red Zone but little more than that.

 

[NinjaZX6R]

I feel like Moss would be a legitimate threat in the Red Zone but little more than that.

So is Gronk.

 

[Patriot Missile]

When Moss turns 50 are we still going to get these threads?

 

[Observer]

Moss does play deep safety very well. Lets get him!

 

[NinjaZX6R]

Moss does play deep safety very well. Lets get him!

He then will throw a tantrum about opposing QB's not throwing his way...

 

[Ring 6]

Moss still averaged a TD a game the last time he suited up as a starter for the Pats.

If one values scoring TD's as being productive then Moss still was a very productive player at the time he was jettisoned off the Pats roster.

I would strongly argue that attitude, not lack of production, was what caused Moss's termination as a Pats player.

Actually that is untrue, he had 3 in 4 games.
He also had a grand total of 4 receptions in his last 3 games as a Pat.
Hard to call that productive.
Of course he went on to catch 19 more in 12 games after leaving, also not very productive.

 

[Bobs My Uncle]

Actually that is untrue, he had 3 in 4 games.
He also had a grand total of 4 receptions in his last 3 games as a Pat.
Hard to call that productive.
Of course he went on to catch 19 more in 12 games after leaving, also not very productive.

But the 4th he wasn't given starter reps as I stated.

I also qualified my previous statement with "if you consider TD's as being productive ...."

What Moss did elsewhere is a non factor is what he did as a Pats.

 

[bagwell368]

Scenario:

Say 85 washes out and Price gets hurt; BB could be tempted to bring Moss back, not only because he might be helpful as a player, but:

Think of what BB gave up to get Moss, then the deal to get a decent pick back, and think about what BB knows about Moss - here and before.

Moss is always eager to please and hard working early on everyplace he goes. He gets unhappy as time goes on. Now IMO Moss has some serious emotional issues, but when he is stoked he's on the sunny side. Who cares from a Pats point of view about 2012? He signs a one year minimum non guaranteed contract, if Moss can't do it, or the blush goes off the rose, you zap him in the here and now. If he's playing good, you keep telling him that the Pats are real interested in a long term deal after the season, you get a solid or perhaps very good year out of him in 2011, and BB becomes the one and only carney that was able to get the best out of him twice - for a very low price as I alluded to above.

Not likely, but, possible.

 

[Dutchmaster617]

Can he deliver ice cold Gatoraid to the players fast enough so they don't get dehydrated?

If so,then I want him back,we need a quick guy for refreshments...

if he wants something else such as playing WR,something that he can no longer do effectively or consistently?...then no

Such an exaggeration, I'll take Moss over Branch everyday, this isn't about play skills but bitterness towards the way he left.

If Moss comes back it's as WR, I took some shots when he left but it's time toget over it, he would have given us the best season in history if our defense was better.

 

[Kid~Brady]

Actually that is untrue, he had 3 in 4 games.
He also had a grand total of 4 receptions in his last 3 games as a Pat.
Hard to call that productive.
Of course he went on to catch 19 more in 12 games after leaving, also not very productive.

When you're double teamed almost every play, its always a little harder to be productive honestly. He bascially set up receptions for every other receiver on any team that he has played for of late.

It sucks for him but is a compliment at the same time.

 

[FalconHeavy]

He then will throw a tantrum about opposing QB's not throwing his way...

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