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So if Big Albert doesn't work out, then same DL as last year, without G Warren?

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I kinda wonder if we're going to try to go get Shaun Ellis. He could be a fine Ty Warren replacement, I think.
 
I kinda wonder if we're going to try to go get Shaun Ellis. He could be a fine Ty Warren replacement, I think.

I like him too. Supposedly the Pats are being connected with Aubrayo Frankling though
 
I like him too. Supposedly the Pats are being connected with Aubrayo Frankling though

NFL has him listed as a NT/DT, has he ever played anything else? I figure we'd need a natural DE/OLB more than anything right now. (i don't know anything about the guy)

edit2: source?
 
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I don't get good vibes about AH. He's had major on and off the field issues he's not the most motivated player. I would like to see G Warren back.
 
I don't know, but personally I hope he works out because I'm sick and tired of people calling him a "Turd" - and I know for a fact he has no Turdish blood.

As one of Turdsmanish descent, it's hurtful to hear people equate us with Haynesworth.
Really, the Turds never became accepted in this country because of their name. The Turds, or people from Turdsmania, were people of healthy stock. They were tall, with long straight hair; the men robust, the women bold and beautiful. The first Turds arrived on these shores in fifteen eighty-nine, one year after the defeat of the Spanish Armada. They were unjustly blamed for the defeat of the Spanish Fleet when a Spanish admiral remarked, "No wonder we lost, we had a bunch of turds managing our cannons!"

When finally in America, they also had trouble with lodgings. Most boarding houses had a sign on the front, "No Turds." The Turdsmen naturally interpreted it to mean, "No people from Turdsmania, please." They consequently felt rejected, as would any turd.

Even those who decided to return to Turdsmania had a rough time going back. Once on the bother, they would ask, "Where do the turds stay?" And a mate would innocently reply, "Why, in the can, sir," thinking it was some kind of Navy test. The Turdsmen would spend the rest of the voyage huddled in the men's room. Once back in the homeland, however, their lot became a happier one. Each man and woman could pass each other on the street and proudly say, "I'm a Turd!"

So hopefully things work out with Haynesworth and my people can finally put all of this behind us.

you must be the same joesixpat as the PFT commenter. lol
 
I hope the Pats sign and convert Jamarcus Russell. He has the size and athleticism to become a dominant run-stuffing 5 technique.
 
I hope the Pats sign and convert Jamarcus Russell. He has the size and athleticism to become a dominant run-stuffing 5 technique.

Too bad Vernon Ghoulston is signed by the Bears too, imagine that Dline.
 
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I'm pretty aware of what happens if it does work out. I'm more concerned if it doesn't, because if he's unmotivated, BB won't put him on the field, regardless of how many people will have to block him.

This is a bigger risk than a 5th round draft choice. For now, he ties up a good deal of cap space allocated to the DL. So even if we let him go at some point in the future, many of the other options will be gone. That's the real risk in this move.

Look.....I think some people are missing what BB is after here. Haynesworth will be double-teamed - period!.....No matter if you think he's not motivated, you're not going to let this guy loose to kill your quarterback.

Secondly, Mangold at center can "somewhat" handle Vince at the nose, but our other 13 opponents are going to have a "b-tch" of a time trying to handle him straight-up.

With say Brace at LDE, what BB is accomplishing is making the offensive line "compress" to handle the interior D lineman. This is what Baltimore does with Ngata and Gregg; when you try to zone block these guys, Ngata just tosses them aside and zone blocking takes too long.

When you compress the OL, forcing the tight end inside to handle Haynesworth, you will open the gaps that BB is looking for.....both for the OlB and even better from Spikes or a hybrid, like Barrett or Chung. It's monumental, imo, to make the other team use 5 or 6 blockers to run their offense. This is what both the Ravens and the Jets did to us. It's not the blitz we should worry about, it's the team that uses up your blocking just to stay even with their defensive line......at least that's the way I see it.
 
Please someone: Where did Gerard Warren go?
 
I'm pretty aware of what happens if it does work out. I'm more concerned if it doesn't, because if he's unmotivated, BB won't put him on the field, regardless of how many people will have to block him.

This is a bigger risk than a 5th round draft choice. For now, he ties up a good deal of cap space allocated to the DL. So even if we let him go at some point in the future, many of the other options will be gone. That's the real risk in this move.

I know what you're saying.....but,I still don't see the risk.The cap cost is eminently manageable.What..$6.5m for about the hardest def position to fill?

Also.what do you mean by other options?Are their other 325lb defensive lineman out there for trade or as free agents?.......Name one please.If you're referring to the pats...suppose they cut AH and went back to last years DL,would that option makes us 2-14....4-10....8-8?.......I fail to see the disaster you portend in your post,if this doesn't work out.

You have to realize that BB is not betting the farm on Haynesworth,he's taking a flyer....just like Moss.Why would belichick do it?......Because he CAN.This team is 'friggin loaded....enjoy the ride.
 
I'm pretty aware of what happens if it does work out. I'm more concerned if it doesn't, because if he's unmotivated, BB won't put him on the field, regardless of how many people will have to block him.

This is a bigger risk than a 5th round draft choice. For now, he ties up a good deal of cap space allocated to the DL. So even if we let him go at some point in the future, many of the other options will be gone. That's the real risk in this move.
We don't know the cap hit, as it has been rumored the Pats reworked the deal, which would obviously be a reduction.
 
Look.....I think some people are missing what BB is after here. Haynesworth will be double-teamed - period!.....No matter if you think he's not motivated, you're not going to let this guy loose to kill your quarterback.

Secondly, Mangold at center can "somewhat" handle Vince at the nose, but our other 13 opponents are going to have a "b-tch" of a time trying to handle him straight-up.

With say Brace at LDE, what BB is accomplishing is making the offensive line "compress" to handle the interior D lineman. This is what Baltimore does with Ngata and Gregg; when you try to zone block these guys, Ngata just tosses them aside and zone blocking takes too long.

When you compress the OL, forcing the tight end inside to handle Haynesworth, you will open the gaps that BB is looking for.....both for the OlB and even better from Spikes or a hybrid, like Barrett or Chung. It's monumental, imo, to make the other team use 5 or 6 blockers to run their offense. This is what both the Ravens and the Jets did to us. It's not the blitz we should worry about, it's the team that uses up your blocking just to stay even with their defensive line......at least that's the way I see it.

Beautifull!! Well explained, sir...

MAN, do I get pumped at the possibilities that we now have at our disposal!!
 
I hope the Pats sign and convert Jamarcus Russell.

He has the size and athleticism to become a dominant run-stuffing 5 technique.

Please don't post, if you're just going to scribe nonsense like this.

Everybody knows that Russell's natural position is Flanker.

"OutSide LineBacker" to you Earthlings.
 
I know what you're saying.....but,I still don't see the risk.The cap cost is eminently manageable.What..$6.5m for about the hardest def position to fill?

Also.what do you mean by other options?Are their other 325lb defensive lineman out there for trade or as free agents?.......Name one please.If you're referring to the pats...suppose they cut AH and went back to last years DL,would that option makes us 2-14....4-10....8-8?.......I fail to see the disaster you portend in your post,if this doesn't work out.

You have to realize that BB is not betting the farm on Haynesworth,he's taking a flyer....just like Moss.Why would belichick do it?......Because he CAN.

This team is 'friggin loaded....enjoy the ride.

PREACH it, Brother Italia!! :rocker:
 
We don't know the cap hit, as it has been rumored the Pats reworked the deal, which would obviously be a reduction.

They didn't rework the deal, otherwise he wouldn't be practicing later this AM. Didn't rework Chad either. They may yet revisit either deal, although in Albert's case it makes little sense to. His cap hit is $5.4M in all salary, it isn't guaranteed, that's relative peanuts for a DL. The contract we traded for is essentially the final 2 years of his 4/$48M deal (before his poison pill $20M option bonus kicks in triggering the last 3), of which Snyder has already paid all the guaranteed money.
 
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