Reiss: Kaczur has "significant" back injury

[swheeler23]

Gee that sucks....the guys takin his place are not starters. Brady is going to get killed. if he does not have a new contract by the first pre season game he should make up an injury until they sign Mankins.

 

[Modest]

Wow. I'm about ready to say we're officially ****ed.

 

[signbabybrady]

Light, Koppen, Neal, and Volmer make up a pretty damn good 4/5 of the line and I think they can overcome a weakness.

Hopefully something can be worked out with Mankins and this was the hope before Kaczur's injury anyway.

Worst case scenario someone halfway decent should emerge from the group of younguns and journeymen Connelly or better.

 

[Metaphors]

As I asked in another thread and got no responses, can anyone describe a realistic scenario where Mankins isn't starting week 1? For a situation to be "realistic", you have to explain how Mankins benefits from that course of action.

 

[Reckedtrek]

Wow. I'm about ready to say we're officially ****ed.

Really? We in all likelihood have upgraded at RT with Vollmer over Kaczur, we have the same RG, C and LT as last year. We are "short" a good LG. IF (big IF) They sign Mankins, all we have lost is our backup RT. If they don't sign Mankins, then they need to get a good LG hopefully an experienced vet via FA or a trade.

Not to mention we have one of THE best OL coaches in the NFL.

So explain how "we're ****ed", again?

 

[patsfan-1982]

even the smallest back injury for a OL men is bad news... looks like 6th round pick Ted Larsen, is going to make the 53 man roster.

 

[Ring 6]

Connolly played almost all of 5 games last season and there was no significant difference in our offense. The running game was similar to the other 11, the pass protection was similar as well.
Will him stepping in for Mankins instead of Neal change that? We don't know.
Will he be improved after playing 1/3 of the season with the 1s? We don't know.
I do know that we will have a professional football player at LG, one that BB and Scarnecchia feel is competant, and I am sure that a offense as good as we have can survive an OL holdout or injury without Brady getting put in the hospital.
To speak as if we have seen enough of Connolly to know what his play will be at this point is a guess, and what you will see is those who revel in ripping the team or BB will use this too tell us the sky is falling and those that do not like to face bad news will gloss in over.
The reality is probably the middle ground, just like last season when you lose a starter at G and replace them with their backup you will see sme degradation in the offense but nothing really significant.
So, go on everyone use Connolly a a catalyst for your agendas.

 

[signbabybrady]

As I asked in another thread and got no responses, can anyone describe a realistic scenario where Mankins isn't starting week 1? For a situation to be "realistic", you have to explain how Mankins benefits from that course of action.

its obviously in Mankins best intrest to be collecting a check week one but does that mean for the patriots? I think if this thing can be fixed or if it cant there would likely be a resolution before the season starts.

 

[Joker]

Re: Kaczur has "Significant" back injury--Reiss

so, they gonna just forget about mankins? maybe see him waddle in some time in october, sign his tender......and then what? you think that's good for the pats?

do you always put words in someone else's mouth to start an argument? I just pointed out what we've all seen historically and posted my OPINION about future possibilities. You want a fight punch yourself in the mouth.

 

[Run DMC]

So what happens when Light inevitably goes down? Mankins needs to be signed,
yesterday.

 

[Kontradiction]

I think it's time to either re-open negotiations with Mankins or get on the phone with Mawae. I hope Brady is vocal about this as well.

 

[Ring 6]

As I asked in another thread and got no responses, can anyone describe a realistic scenario where Mankins isn't starting week 1? For a situation to be "realistic", you have to explain how Mankins benefits from that course of action.

The fact that Mankin must make a decision doesnt mean it must be a good one.
I would agree that if the Pats continue to take the approach (that we THINK they are) of the ball being in his court, then it would be very bad or Mankins to stay away. With labor uncertainty he could not earn a nickel for 2 years, then be right back to this point in 2012. Consider how much FA money he would lose if he chose to retire for 2 years then came back after 2 years of inactivity too....
I think he will realize that sucking it up and playing for less money this year, but getting paid is better in every way than sitting out. The only real reason for him to sit out is if he beleves he can force a trade, and someone will trade for him, AND make him the highest paid G inhe NFL so he can cash a huge bonus check, struggle in a new system without a camp then get locked out next year. I don't think there are many of the other 31 teams considering that a good investment of 25 mill or whatever it will take. If Brady, Manning, Revis, Merriman, Jackson, McNeil, etc can't get a contract done with teams that want to keep them, it seems unlikely someone will want to break the bank to bring in a G without a camp.
All that said Mankins can stay home, because he can, and it doesnt require that it is smart to.

 

[Deus Irae]

Shawn Andrews, his depression, and his bad back, are available.

 

[Deus Irae]

The news just hit PFT:

Logan Mankins just gained some leverage | ProFootballTalk.com

 

[Tunescribe]

As I asked in another thread and got no responses, can anyone describe a realistic scenario where Mankins isn't starting week 1? For a situation to be "realistic", you have to explain how Mankins benefits from that course of action.

You've made your own point: Mankins' holdout is illogical, it was from the very start. That's why it would not surprise me to see him continue with it and even sit out the season, as stupid as that would be. He's already turned down five years, $35 million (dumb) and has his heels dug in for $8 million per which he'll never get from the Patriots (dumber). He's pissed and being stupid about it.

 

[swheeler23]

The news just hit PFT:

Logan Mankins just gained some leverage | ProFootballTalk.com

I would be shocked if the Patriots gave in to Mankins.Brady is going to get killed.LOL!

 

[Deus Irae]

As I asked in another thread and got no responses, can anyone describe a realistic scenario where Mankins isn't starting week 1? For a situation to be "realistic", you have to explain how Mankins benefits from that course of action.

Given what just happened to Dumervil, why should Mankins cave at this point, when the money involved is relative peanuts since the team slashed the tender?

 

[Joker]

The news just hit PFT:

Logan Mankins just gained some leverage | ProFootballTalk.com

that blurb by Rosenthal is hasty and uninformed as far as I can tell...if Kaczur is starting at LG, that makes HIM number 1 on the depth chart, which makes Connolly number two, not third on the depth chart. Seems it's more of the same PFT bullcrap, trying to incite a controversy using rehashed, out of date and misinformed opinion.

 

[swheeler23]

Do you guys think Brady will be willing to play behind an o-line that has neither Mankins or Kaczur at LG, without a new contract in place?

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Given what just happened to Dumervil, why should Mankins cave at this point, when the money involved is relative peanuts since the team slashed the tender?

The Patriots aren't planning to let him leave via FA, so his only option, at the moment, if he wants to reach it, is to sign his tender. Perhaps they might be able to work out a trade, but even that seems unlikely at the moment (although it's interesting that the Pats have drafted three interior linemen in the last two drafts. . . .).

If he doesn't, then he'll likely just go through this again next year, etc.