Which teams do you think want a 2-for-1 deal?

[ctpatsfan77]

BB, in his presser, said that some teams have already expressed interest in trading down and picking up some of the Patriots' 11 picks. So: which teams, which picks?

 

[DaBruinz]

BB, in his presser, said that some teams have already expressed interest in trading down and picking up some of the Patriots' 11 picks. So: which teams, which picks?

He also said that there was nothing set and that it was just teams feeling people out and that with all the ambiguity in the draft, its hard to predict who will go where..

 

[Mark Morse]

It would have to be a team outside the top eight because the Pats don't want to get caught up in all that guaranteed money to an upproven rookie. Mayo is an exception!

Most likely trading partner is Washington which is desperate for additional picks.

All teams are talking about what it will take to move up or down the draft board during these days leading up to the draft. Most of that work is done well before a team gets "on the clock".

 

[DaBruinz]

It would have to be a team outside the top eight because the Pats don't want to get caught up in all that guaranteed money to an upproven rookie. Mayo is an exception!

Most likely trading partner is Washington which is desperate for additional picks.

All teams are talking about what it will take to move up or down the draft board during these days leading up to the draft. Most of that work is done well before a team gets "on the clock".

Washington is desperate for additional picks so they can trade up for Sanchez.. At least that is the rumor anyways..

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

Washington is desperate for additional picks so they can trade up for Sanchez.. At least that is the rumor anyways..

They may want to move up, but they (Washington) do not have the ammo to do so. Like in years past they have blown their picks. Washington owns picks #13, 80, 150, 186, and 243. And Snyder has stated that next year's #1 is off the table. So I can't see how they can move up for Sanchez. #80 is worth 190 points on the infamous "trade value chart" which would move you from #13 to #11, and Sanchez will be gone by then.

 

[Spiral]

I'd give the skins a third in exchange for next year's second. I would be willing to commit to this before the draft, so the Redskins use this pick to get Sanchez. Keeps him away from Denver, too.

 

[DaBruinz]

I'd give the skins a third in exchange for next year's second. I would be willing to commit to this before the draft, so the Redskins use this pick to get Sanchez. Keeps him away from Denver, too.

Denver has more ammunition to trade up to get Sanchez than Washington would since Denver has 2 1st round picks this year and next year as well as an extra 3rd this year.

I could see Denver shipping both picks to Seattle for the #4.

 

[jeffbiologist]

I think its safe to say both KC and SD. Additional teams are likely to include Jax, SF, GB, Cleveland, and others. All but SD are in the top 10, and the sweet spot in the draft(again) is between 20-40. I can see us using day 2 picks to hop around, and even possibly trading down. The only trading up I can see is if BB values Ayers.

 

[mayoclinic]

I think its safe to say both KC and SD. Additional teams are likely to include Jax, SF, GB, Cleveland, and others. All but SD are in the top 10, and the sweet spot in the draft(again) is between 20-40. I can see us using day 2 picks to hop around, and even possibly trading down. The only trading up I can see is if BB values Ayers.

Jax, GB and SF are all trade down candidates from 8-10. Possibly also Buffalo at 11.

According to Mike Mayock, you can throw the old draft value chart out as far as the top of this draft is concerned - teams will accept a fraction of the traditional value to move into the 20's because of the money issue. If this is true, then 23 + 58 may get us to the 8-10 range, while keeping 34 and 47. Aaron Curry, BJ Raji or an OT might be worthwhile picks in that range.

 

[Spiral]

Denver has more ammunition to trade up to get Sanchez than Washington would since Denver has 2 1st round picks this year and next year as well as an extra 3rd this year.

I could see Denver shipping both picks to Seattle for the #4.

Maybe. But if Denver did that, the net effect of the Cutler trade would be Cutler and this year's first-round pick for Sanchez and the Bears' #1 next year (Orton becomes a throwaway). I don't think many Denver fans would like that one.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Denver has more ammunition to trade up to get Sanchez than Washington would since Denver has 2 1st round picks this year and next year as well as an extra 3rd this year.

I could see Denver shipping both picks to Seattle for the #4.

Except they need them both to rebuild the defense not to mention transitioning to a 3-4.

I think what Bill was talking about was more the teams who believe a player or players they covet will be available later and are happy to trade down are looking for teams interested in moving up for a player they want. As Bill said though, given the lack of concensus this season regarding top position players the nature of the talk is just preliminary based on would you be interested if...some teams say always willing to talk, others say not really interested and still others say holler at me when I'm on the clock and I'll let you know. Bill said the last time teams swapped picks before the draft was when he did it in cleveland. Most teams want to wait and see what's still on their board before deciding. Said with the time constraints it's good to know who is and isn't theoretically interested in dealing since there isn't the time there used to be for playing teams off each other. Kind of need to have your options ready for all offers or circumstances. Said that is what they are doing as this week winds down. Reviewing a lot of what if scenarios because aside from tweeking their stacking and grading is done.

Bill basically also said you go down for value and up for a particular player. But uncertainty at the top will impact that decision too. Said at 20 something and beyond it's always hard to predict what will be available while at 7 in a fairly defined draft it wasn't that difficult. But with flexibility like we have this year and lack of concensus at the top you have to scout almost everyone in the first. After that it starts to level out.

 

[Synovia]

Denver has more ammunition to trade up to get Sanchez than Washington would since Denver has 2 1st round picks this year and next year as well as an extra 3rd this year.

I could see Denver shipping both picks to Seattle for the #4.

Why the hell would Denver draft Sanchez? I'm not a huge Orton believer, but McDaniels made Orton a deal-breaker in that trade, so its clear that McDaniels is.

 

[DaBruinz]

Why the hell would Denver draft Sanchez? I'm not a huge Orton believer, but McDaniels made Orton a deal-breaker in that trade, so its clear that McDaniels is.

That is one of the rumors out there.. And its why Orton is supposedly upset now.. Which makes no sense to me...

I think that Denver will only move up from 12 if they want one of the OTs or Raji. They need someone to anchor the line at NT.. And Raji is someone to do that with.

But stranger things have happened.. We can only wait and see.

 

[Brady'sButtBoy]

Denver has more ammunition to trade up to get Sanchez than Washington would since Denver has 2 1st round picks this year and next year as well as an extra 3rd this year.

I could see Denver shipping both picks to Seattle for the #4.

I couldn't see that because the Bronco's defense is so bad - they need players who can make a difference on that side of the ball. McDaniels saw first hand how the Pat's SB plans were derailed by untimely D failures. Sanchez or no Sanchez, Denver would have zero chance to win the SB w/o a major D upgrade.

Plus, the real question is - Is Sanchez all that good or just good compared to this year's QB crop. I feel its the latter.

 

[Water Boy]

If this is true, then 23 + 58 may get us to the 8-10 range, while keeping 34 and 47. Aaron Curry, BJ Raji or an OT might be worthwhile picks in that range.

Please don't tease me like this.

 

[carolinatony]

What if he has a deal in place with the Chiefs and takes Curry.
It will never happen but you really never know; do you?

 

[mayoclinic]

What if he has a deal in place with the Chiefs and takes Curry.
It will never happen but you really never know; do you?

I hope not. The point is that I don't want Aaron Curry at #3, but I'd love him in the 8-10 range. #3 is just too expensive for an SILB, no matter how good. It would mess up the salary structure of the team, and I doubt BB would allow that to happen. But if Curry slips a bit - which could very well happen - then I think that a tradeup would be quite worth while.

The big issue with Curry is that he's not a pure pass rusher. For top 5 money, teams usually either want a QB, OT, or a pass rusher. I'm sure Pioli loves Curry, but he doesn't want to pay $8-10M/year with $20-30M guaranteed to a LB who has never played a snap. AJ Hawk went #5 in 2006 and looked as good as Curry, and he hasn't turned out to be that special.

Everyone is afraid of making a mistake in the top 10, and wants to trade out, especially in a deep draft. I'm a contrarian. Since everyone wants to trade down, it's a buyer's market to trade up. BB was very high in his praise of Jerod Mayo today at his presser, emphasizing how hard it is to find a mature, intelligent player who can come in right away and be a major contributor. Aaron Curry is that guy. Paying 8-10 money wouldn't break the bank, and Curry's skills are a perfect mesh with Mayo's. We could go for a pass rusher at 34 or 47. IF he drops (which I'd say is a 50-50 bet right now, but was less than 10% a week or two ago) then it would be worth making a run at him.

 

[VJCPatriot]

It would have to be a team outside the top eight because the Pats don't want to get caught up in all that guaranteed money to an upproven rookie. Mayo is an exception!

Most likely trading partner is Washington which is desperate for additional picks.

All teams are talking about what it will take to move up or down the draft board during these days leading up to the draft. Most of that work is done well before a team gets "on the clock".

Washington, New Orleans, San Diego could also use more picks since they lack 2nd rounders.

 

[Taxed in Maine]

New Orleans only has 4 picks, with no 2nd or 3rd
Washington only has 5 picks, with no 2nd
Oakland, Cleveland, and Carolina only have 5 picks each


Some possible trade partners?

 

[Spiral]

BB traded #7 last year to N.O. Could give them #87 for next year's #2.