Let's all forgive Bob Kraft

wolverinejoe80 said:

ok, that did it. He is off the list. Great job, mr. kraft. I forgive you.

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No chance in hell. Bob chose his wallet over Brady. The crap he put out today is just a CYA.

Here is where I have a VERY hard time with today's statement:

Bob says, "I truly believe what I did in May given the actual evidence of this situation and the league’s history on discipline matters would make it much easier for the league to exonerate Tom Brady. Unfortunately I was wrong.”

I do not get this line of reasoning or what he means by "given the actual evidence." So he was willing to accept unprecedented, unfair punishment for doing nothing wrong (as acknowledged by the Wells Report regarding the team specifically) in the hope that Brady would be exonerated for also doing nothing wrong? Or, did he believe the league has "actual evidence" of wrongdoing and that accepting insane punishment on behalf of the team would make Goodell go all mushy and let Brady off the hook?

You have to like Kraft's resumption of a defiant tone. But what does it really mean at this stage? All I'm seeing is a too-little, too-late attempt at purely rhetorical face-saving with the fan base. He's feeling the heat and wants us to forgive him for capitulating and bungling things badly. I need to see some sort of ACTION behind these spicy words before I forgive PudgeBob ShortPants.

Tunescribe said:

Here is where I have a VERY hard time with today's statement:

Bob says, "I truly believe what I did in May given the actual evidence of this situation and the league’s history on discipline matters would make it much easier for the league to exonerate Tom Brady. Unfortunately I was wrong.”

I do not get this line of reasoning or what he means by "given the actual evidence." So he was willing to accept unprecedented, unfair punishment for doing nothing wrong (as acknowledged by the Wells Report regarding the team specifically) in the hope that Brady would be exonerated for also doing nothing wrong? Or, did he believe the league has "actual evidence" of wrongdoing and that accepting insane punishment on behalf of the team would make Goodell go all mushy and let Brady off the hook?

You have to like Kraft's resumption of a defiant tone. But what does it really mean at this stage? All I'm seeing is a too-little, too-late attempt at purely rhetorical face-saving with the fan base. He's feeling the heat and wants us to forgive him for capitulating and bungling things badly. I need to seem some sort of ACTION behind these spicy words before I forgive PudgeBob ShortPants.

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He was lying today. He's seen how the region has reacted, and he had to do something to calm people down.

Sadly, people are suckers, so they'll buy it. We can see that right here on this site.

FlyboyPatsFan said:

No video or transcription up yet. For a few quote:

https://twitter.com/mikereiss

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The video, just in case.

http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patriots/kraft-apologizes-fans-i-was-wrong-put-my-faith-league

I like what Kraft said today, I can move on with him. I would like him to bring a law suit even if it is a loser from the get go, sends the right message.

Wrath Mania said:

Not buying it. Granted, it's nice to see him admit he made the wrong choice, and I do believe he sincerely feels bad for what happened to TB. But let's not pretend his original decision to side with the "32" was just out of some naive belief that the league would reward him by letting the dogs off of Brady. I'm sure that's how Kraft rationalized it, but don't forget: he likes being seen as the Great Compromiser; and I'm sure he was hopeful that earning points would be remembered for a Canton speech someday. That move earlier in the summer was much more about Kraft's ego and not wanting to be seen as a bad guy, than it was about- via some really, really contorted logic- helping Tom Brady. Don't forget that.

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Before I even forgive Kraft I would like to know what direction the wind was blowing during his presser.Kraft comes off to me as one who bends with the wind...surprised he was even reading from a script. Kraft needs a spokesperson, he didn't say all that much to be glued to notes painful.

Deus Irae said:

He was lying today. He's seen how the region has reacted, and he had to do something to calm people down.

Sadly, people are suckers, so they'll buy it. We can see that right here on this site.

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This

Kraft needs to sue the league and publicly call for Goodell to be fired.

AndyJohnson said:

Kraft needs to sue the league and publicly call for Goodell to be fired.

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Yup. Without some sort of action his words today are empty. I don't care how ultimately futile that action might be. He must DO something.

AndyJohnson said:

Kraft needs to sue the league and publicly call for Goodell to be fired.

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Although I do appreciate the apology and the strong words you are right Andy. Anything short of that is failure by Kraft.

Tunescribe said:

Yup. Without some sort of action his words today are empty. I don't care how ultimately futile that action might be. He must DO something.

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Pretty much. I'd like to see him sue for the picks back and go after Goodell's job. Whether or not he does that or just rests on his laurels is up in the air. If it's the latter, he still won't be getting my forgiveness or dollars.

Myra paid him a visit last night and told him to stand up for the team and TB.

He listened.

Though I'm not totally happy/satisfied, I do forgive Kraft. The entire situation is very complex and has many layers we don't even know about. It's not the same, but all of the NFL owners are in a situation almost like Congress: lots of money, egos, and bs politics involved. I'm ready to move on to Pittsburgh. And more importantly, start prepping for the Indy game, we need to score at least 50 on them.

Very strong statement by Bob, I forgive him. I still wish he had said nothing back in May.. But I accept his apology.

patriot1136 said:

Though I'm not totally happy/satisfied, I do forgive Kraft. The entire situation is very complex and has many layers we don't even know about. It's not the same, but all of the NFL owners are in a situation almost like Congress: lots of money, egos, and bs politics involved. I'm ready to move on to Pittsburgh. And more importantly, start prepping for the Indy game, we need to score at least 50 on them.

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Tunescribe said:

Here is where I have a VERY hard time with today's statement:

Bob says, "I truly believe what I did in May given the actual evidence of this situation and the league’s history on discipline matters would make it much easier for the league to exonerate Tom Brady. Unfortunately I was wrong.”

I do not get this line of reasoning or what he means by "given the actual evidence." So he was willing to accept unprecedented, unfair punishment for doing nothing wrong (as acknowledged by the Wells Report regarding the team specifically) in the hope that Brady would be exonerated for also doing nothing wrong? Or, did he believe the league has "actual evidence" of wrongdoing and that accepting insane punishment on behalf of the team would make Goodell go all mushy and let Brady off the hook?

You have to like Kraft's resumption of a defiant tone. But what does it really mean at this stage? All I'm seeing is a too-little, too-late attempt at purely rhetorical face-saving with the fan base. He's feeling the heat and wants us to forgive him for capitulating and bungling things badly. I need to see some sort of ACTION behind these spicy words before I forgive PudgeBob ShortPants.

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Odds are if there are any actions, we won't see it. My guess is Kraft will be working other owners to turn them against Goodell. All the talk that Goodell won over the owners with Deflategate rulings, is short-lived. It isn't like owners who were shaky on Goodell all the sudden thinks he is great because he came down hard on the Pats. They may happy as pigs in crap right now, but the next time Goodell does something unpopular they will be against him again.

I seriously doubt Kraft will sue the league. Just isn't his style. His forte and best way for revenge is his negotiation skills working the owners one on one or in small groups and staging a coupe. It isn't instant gratification, but may be a more effective revenge against Goodell, Pash, Kensil, and others. A lawsuit is a loser for the league unless they can uncover a smoking gun like who leaked the 2 PSI bogus rumor to Mortensen.

I could be wrong, but I don't think Kraft is done with his statement. But his best way he knows how to attack is working the phones and handshake deals, not going to court. Right or wrong.

He chose to accept the punishment in May which I can forgive him for based on his comments, but not suing the league now? That puts him right back where I had him in May. Talk is cheap.

Deus Irae said:

He was lying today. He's seen how the region has reacted, and he had to do something to calm people down.

Sadly, people are suckers, so they'll buy it. We can see that right here on this site.

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Kraft said "I should not have had faith in the League"

That is an extremely powerful statement.

I agree he is in CYA mode but you don't make that statement if you aren't serious about your stance.

I am not sure he will take further action but he is clearly stating he is in Tom's corner not the NELs.

If he didn't convince you so be it but he won me back.

Ambivalent here. I want to forgive him after the damage he caused, and the spit in the face to all long time Patriots' fans, especially his heartfelt words at being loved and accepted by 31 other men (who were spitting in my face). But it's hard to forgive. This is sports. He is part of taking away my love for a pastime I enjoyed.

That being said, I well understand that sometimes you make strategic decisions. That is acceptable to me. And forgiveable. But bob, you are gullible, and I'm not sure how I can forgive you for being so gullible. You're supposed to stick up for this team, and yet you let your ego and self-flattery get in the way of doing what as right. How can I forgive that? Your sense of self-importance was bought at the expense of decades of us watching Patriots football.

I am near forgiving him, but I have to admit I can't because I have ambivalent feelings.

If, on the other hand, he pulled a Don Quixote and sued the NFL Al Davis-like, it would tip me over the edge and I would instantly forgive him.

Even better, he should at this point (since the NFL is no longer his friend) call Jerry Jones and say, "Jerry, it's either me or Roger. One of us is leaving. You guys can choose."