Brady weighs in on possible extended season

[Sicilian]

Like changing the Pro Bowl.

The season is long enough. If anything add 2 more playoff teams per conference.

Not sure I like this. It would probably result in removing the first round bye, which, IMO, is the most effective reward of regular season success in sports. I think it needs to stay.

 

[ForThoseAboutToRock]

Players are injured every week - if you lengthen the season 13%, you will probably see roughly 13% more injuries.

I'd guess that the injuries would be worse than following a linear rate of injuries per game. The increased number of games could turn wear and tear injuries like sprains / strains into more serious injuries when the player plays through them and winds up really screwing himself up.

In terms of a league that's battling against the concussion prone nature of it's game, an 18 game regular season is a step backwards. More games = more opportunites for concussed players to get back out on the field and smack skulls, nevermind that it's another 2 games worth of concussions.

I think the owners are so driven by money that they will push the players hard for things like an 18 game season, to which the players will respond by striking. In the end, the owner's quest for money will turn into the 1 thing that all fans can agree they do not want - a lost season of NFL games.

 

[captain stone]

Is this even English?

It may not be the King's English, but it's the Damn Truth...every word of it.

 

[captain stone]

My idea of having the useless contest in a different foreign city after the SB would let him have his international wish without screwing teams in the regular season.

That's actually a very good idea. I wonder why I hadn't thought of it?

 

[TBradyOwnsYou]

Good
Three day draft = Proven sucess
Pro-Bowl before Super Bowl = Proven success
Harsh punishment for NFL thugs like Big Ben, Pacman = GREAT
Finally changing NFL overtime rules = GREAT
New York Super Bowl = GREAT
Adding third Thanksgiving Game = GREAT

Bad
NFL games outside of US (Dear god no, I will agree this is HORRIBLE)
Handling of SpyGate (Fine/draft pick were OUTRAGEOUS but I am glad he destroyed tapes)

So yeah Goodell has done A LOT more good than bad.

The 3 day draft was done once... is that enough to prove it a success? The Pro Bowl before the Super Bowl was a success?
Overtime rules that are different in post season and regular season makes sense how?
A Super Bowl that is 4 years away from taking place is a success?
The third game on Thanksgiving... yay, taking away tradition to give two more teams a short practice week during the season. Awesome!

I'm sorry man, but I have to disagree with your assessment.

I want it and most people I know want it.

The question is simple: do you like to watch football or not?

Some people can take it or leave it. i am disappointed when the regular season ends, and would be happy to see more.

The 'more injuries' in an 18-game season is the dumbest argument in the world. A longer season does not have to mean more games per player. There is no reason why an 18 game season has to mean players play more games.

There are ways to work around this, including a requirement that a player can play in only 16 regular season games. This will require the team to sit him 2 games a year.

All the records tied to a 16-game season remain intact. Players get three weeks off during the year which should actually benefit them more than the one week off they get now with the bye.

It just takes a little thought, that's all.

So basically you're saying that 2 of the pre-season games should count towards the team's record only instead of voluntarily sitting starters to rest them up before the season, they would be required to sit their starters and watch the water boys battle it out in games that would count against the regular season record. Simply awesome. Maybe instead of the Super Bowl we can have a mascot vs mascot wrestling match to determine who wins?

 

[Kontradiction]

I like how I didn't even have to respond to Pete. Thanks for saving me the trouble, guys.

 

[N.Eman]

Yeah, agree with the others here. Why fix something that isn't broke? It is definitely all about the money.

Not only that its just Greediness. ALso, if this goes thru, and if the new CBA grants more money towards the Players way, 18 games would level that off, meaning the league still gets its big cut that its getting now.

 

[moosekill]

I enjoy watching football games. I find the preseason games meaningless but I still watch them. I would be happy to see the league go to 18 regular season games and have only two preseason games. I have, as of right now, talked with dozens of people and it is almost 100% in agreement with my way of thinking. I do agree that the players should be compensated for the extra games, and I certainly think that making players sit out mandatory games is the stupidest idea I have ever heard.

As for Brady's comments, hasn't he just recently become the player rep? That would probably be why he hasn't commented on things like this before.

 

[NEGoldenAge]

I have, as of right now, talked with dozens of people and it is almost 100% in agreement with my way of thinking. I do agree that the players should be compensated for the extra games.

Dood, polling your sister's kindergarten class about the topic is a lot different than asking football fans. Put up another poll on this forum and you will see first hand. I have talked to several football fans about the issue. Although it's not 100% against an 18 game season, it is a huge majority. :bricks:

 

[Wolfpack]

I don't understand the disconnect on this issue. None of the fans I know want 18 games, and I sure don't. Yet, Goodell says the fans want it and Kraft says it won't hurt the players, talking like it's a done deal.

You must not know a single seaon ticket holders because I don't know any STHers who don't want to switch from 4/16 to 2/18.

 

[Wolfpack]

The players will be easily bought out on this issue. Considering they are going to get absolutely reamed in the new CBA if they maintain a hard line stance, this will be an easy implementation if the league really wants it. And I think they really want it.

 

[NEGoldenAge]

You must not know a single seaon ticket holders because I don't know any STHers who don't want to switch from 4/16 to 2/18.

Talk to the season ticket holders that understand the situation. The Krafts, as have almost every other owner, have said that if they didn't charge for four preason games, the price of the regular tickets would increase to cover the exact amount. It has also been said that 2 additional season games would add the "appropriate" cost to season tickets. If you truly have spoken with season ticket holders that think this way, please educate them about the facts.

 

[Wolfpack]

Talk to the season ticket holders that understand the situation. The Krafts, as have almost every other owner, have said that if they didn't charge for four preason games, the price of the regular tickets would increase to cover the exact amount.

Sorry, but I have to call bullcrap on that statement. The NFL has always taken the official stance that preseason games are just as valuable as regular season games to justify the high ticket prices, so I challenge you to provide me with a quote from Kraft (or any other owner) stating what you have claimed "almost" every single one of them has said.

It has also been said that 2 additional season games would add the "appropriate" cost to season tickets. If you truly have spoken with season ticket holders that think this way, please educate them about the facts.

Just as soon as you give to me some evidence to back up your above claim.

 

[TomBrady'sGoat]

Bad
NFL games outside of US (Dear god no, I will agree this is HORRIBLE)
Handling of SpyGate (Fine/draft pick were OUTRAGEOUS but I am glad he destroyed tapes)

you mention the third game on Sundays but forgot to list under BAD that a lot of people are unable to watch the game. the failure of the NFL network (compared to other networks like MLB of NBA which i actually get on my cable) is a huge failure that Goodell hasn't done anything to fix.

also, the NFL's crappy use of the internet should fall under the BAD category. just look at MLB for how effective the internet can be used to support a league. every Sunday on this forum the topic of myP2P or some other way to watch football online comes up and the NFL has made no effort to please (and make money off of) this audience whatsoever.

the nfl has created a situation where, living outside of NE, i cannot watch many patriots games unless i am willing/able to switch my cable provider and pay $300 (or whatever ridiculous sum it is now) for sunday ticket or find a bar willing to put the game on. and while this can be blamed on his predecessor, Goodell should get blame for doing nothing about it.

i think these negatives more than offset NY getting a superbowl and a half-assed, limited change to the overtime rules in the playoffs.

 

[RyanP421]

I don't define good or bad in that sense. I realize that it's just one man's opinion, but that is mine. Money and ratings are irrelevant. America is a land full of examples of horrid crap garnering mass attention and making huge coin.

The Pro Bowl, for example, is a bad idea from the start because of the nature of football, and now it doesn't even have players from the two "best" teams because they're practicing for a game that matters.

Actually they're not irrelevant...AT ALL.

The NFL is a BUSINESS. Not something that caters to you personally sitting on your couch playing monday QB. I agree with those saying extending the season is idiotic as far as player's health goes. But let's be honest here, it's not like you or anyone else will refuse to watch those "extra games". Goodell is making the NFL even bigger than it was and while you may disagree with some of his methods, the point is he has been succeeding in doing what he set out to do from a business standpoint.

And for everyone saying he mishandled the SpyGate situation...are you kidding me? Can you be any more of a homer? I'm the first to say "everyone else likely did it". So what though? BB and the Pats were caught, so Goodell had to make them pay to set a precedent that crap will not be tolerated.

Goodell has actually been a very good commish so far. And to compare him to Bud Selig or even Stern is idiotic. Those two are absolutely horrific.

 

[RyanP421]

you mention the third game on Sundays but forgot to list under BAD that a lot of people are unable to watch the game. the failure of the NFL network (compared to other networks like MLB of NBA which i actually get on my cable) is a huge failure that Goodell hasn't done anything to fix.

also, the NFL's crappy use of the internet should fall under the BAD category. just look at MLB for how effective the internet can be used to support a league. every Sunday on this forum the topic of myP2P or some other way to watch football online comes up and the NFL has made no effort to please (and make money off of) this audience whatsoever.

the nfl has created a situation where, living outside of NE, i cannot watch many patriots games unless i am willing/able to switch my cable provider and pay $300 (or whatever ridiculous sum it is now) for sunday ticket or find a bar willing to put the game on. and while this can be blamed on his predecessor, Goodell should get blame for doing nothing about it.

i think these negatives more than offset NY getting a superbowl and a half-assed, limited change to the overtime rules in the playoffs.

I will agree here, I think Goodell has really dropped the ball with the tv/internet situation. If the NFL is smart, they will do somethign similar to what MLB has done with MLB.tv. Hell, MLB created an "app" for PS3 that allows you to watch any game through HD from your PS3..Brilliant. Hopefully the NFL follows suit..

 

[BradyManny]

Actually they're not irrelevant...AT ALL.

The NFL is a BUSINESS. Not something that caters to you personally sitting on your couch playing monday QB. I agree with those saying extending the season is idiotic as far as player's health goes. But let's be honest here, it's not like you or anyone else will refuse to watch those "extra games". Goodell is making the NFL even bigger than it was and while you may disagree with some of his methods, the point is he has been succeeding in doing what he set out to do from a business standpoint.

And for everyone saying he mishandled the SpyGate situation...are you kidding me? Can you be any more of a homer? I'm the first to say "everyone else likely did it". So what though? BB and the Pats were caught, so Goodell had to make them pay to set a precedent that crap will not be tolerated.

Goodell has actually been a very good commish so far. And to compare him to Bud Selig or even Stern is idiotic. Those two are absolutely horrific.

I'm guessing Deus' point was that at some point, making the most $$ is not necessarily in a business' best interest all the time.

In my line of work, we do a lot of ethics videos for huge corporations - the main point hammered home in all of them is that more money does not mean good business. Occasionally, principles should be upheld for the sake of upholding them, but even more tangible - upholding principles IS good business from a PR standpoint.

Adding two games to make some more coin while threatening the players' health even more is not good business.

As for Spygate, Goodell butchered it. The bottom line was that bigger transgressions are going on - and Goodell could have framed the entire thing as such, so as to avoid the media sh&t storm that ensued. He took a chance to penalize a team that - at the time - was threatening the attempt at parity in the league, and just got away with one of the biggest steals of a trade in sports history.

 

[Deus Irae]

Actually they're not irrelevant...AT ALL.

Yes, they are.

The NFL is a BUSINESS. Not something that caters to you personally sitting on your couch playing monday QB. I agree with those saying extending the season is idiotic as far as player's health goes. But let's be honest here, it's not like you or anyone else will refuse to watch those "extra games". Goodell is making the NFL even bigger than it was and while you may disagree with some of his methods, the point is he has been succeeding in doing what he set out to do from a business standpoint.

Adding games lessens the impact of each game, and it would be encroaching on my weekends for at least another half-month every season (and that's assuming they don't toss in a second 'bye' week while they are at it). Patriots/Lions in week 8 is going to be a great time to take a weekend off.

And for everyone saying he mishandled the SpyGate situation...are you kidding me? Can you be any more of a homer? I'm the first to say "everyone else likely did it". So what though? BB and the Pats were caught, so Goodell had to make them pay to set a precedent that crap will not be tolerated.

Spygate has been gone over time and again. Goodell was obviously in the wrong, and we've demonstrated why time and time again. At this point, if you choose to remain clueless, that's on you.

Goodell has actually been a very good commish so far. And to compare him to Bud Selig or even Stern is idiotic. Those two are absolutely horrific.

Goodell is the worst commissioner of the "big four". Nobody is a close second for the title.

 

[cupofjoe1962]

I understand why they are against the 18 game season.

I just hate getting stuck paying for 2 pre-season games every year.
Cut the pre-season down to 2 game (1 home game) and go to a 17 game
schedule. You would eliminate 2 preseason gams and add 1 regular season
game.

 

[Joker]

Originally Posted by RyanP421 View Post
And for everyone saying he mishandled the SpyGate situation...are you kidding me? Can you be any more of a homer? I'm the first to say "everyone else likely did it". So what though? BB and the Pats were caught, so Goodell had to make them pay to set a precedent that crap will not be tolerated.

Caught doing what???Using cameras to film? EVERY team does. YOU don't know anything about this issue, obviously...you just heard about it ,took an uninformed side and and are now perpetuating this "caught" myth,affixing some kind of guilt where there is none.

This was all about a pissing match...Goodell, as is his custom,made a huge mountain out of an ant hill. Belichick was well aware of Goodell's "edict" and made the mistake of using his own interpretation of the rule. What part of "the Jets had TWO cameras on the sidelines filming the Patriots" did you miss when all this came down? It's well known and archived...just use google sometime.Goodell's jackboot thuggery irreparably harmed the Patriots organization AND crapped all over the Patriot fanbase. He's a thin skinned megalomaniac with a pathological need to impose his will on everything and everyone he comes in contact with.