I love how windbags like you assume things about other people.

You want a bio on me, ok, bigmouth, here it is; been a fan of the Patriots since 1968, has season tickets from 1986 to 1992, went to the AFC Championship game at the Orange Bowl where we beat the Dolphins and went on to our first Super Bowl, still have the ticket stub to prove it. I kept my tickets during some lean years and have followed this team through thick and thin, so once again, you are wrong.

I attended a four year college in Waltham MA, Bentley College to be exact, currently own my own business, make a six figure income and thats not bragging, those are the facts, you assumed things about me, I corrected you.

Like Patriotspride said, you started out on this forum being rude and ****y, your team didn't do squat this year, now you want a fycking medal because you have been a fan through thick and thin, join the club and get your head out of your rectum.

No one here will ever take your seriously because you started out of the gate making a jackass of yourself, maybe when you get older, you will develop class and humility, though I seriously doubt it. When you are a guest in someone elses house, treat others the way you want to be treated.

Great choice your team has made for a coach; the OC of a team who has the best RB in football, perhaps ever, and he gets NINE touches in the second half last week. Since Shula has left, the futility your team has shown is endless, from Johnson, who could never get your team over the hump, to the current nitwit coaching Pitt (he gagged away the playoffs here in December to a 5-11 Patriots team), to the savior Saban, who took the money and ran, to the current boob you hired.

Keep up the mediocre work.

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And you got mad at me for assuming things about you.

I live in South FLA. Here's a transcript from David Hyde of the Sun Sentinel:

Face it, he sucks. He clearly doesn't have the work ethic, he cares not to get it, and (according to, oh well EVERYONE down here that knows anything about football) he's as dumb as a rock. He's not the man in Miami. However, I think that with the right coaching and guidance that Cleo Lemon might be.

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He sucks? Yeah, that doesn't even render a response, we'll see in 2007.

We'll see in '07? We saw in '05 and '06! He sucks! Cleo Lemon looked light years better and he's a perpetual third stringer. And weren't you the guy that made that "WHY DA FINZ WIL WIN DA DIVISHON IN '06" thread. Yeah, that comment can't be taken seriously. Go back to FinsHeaven.com and talk about how Randy Moss is coming to the team next year to reunite with Culpepper and do what they did in Minn. with the rest of the Miami homers.

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No I actully prefer to talk football here with serious posters, but since you can't do that, I'll just open this up to someone else.

Culpepper hasn't played a healthy season since 2004 (MVP runner up.) I know he may never return to that latitude of health and production, but the fact is that the talent is there. I'm saying if his knee does heal up, he can be a very scary player. Lemon did not look better than Culpepper, you probably saw that game against the Jets where Lemon played 1 quarter on Christmas night and are making all of these assumptions off of that. Cleo is a good project, but not a starter in the NFL.

Also, I'm not the only one to pick the Fins to win the East last year. I'm sure a lot of you picked the Pats to win the Super Bowl, does that mean you can NEVER be taken seriosuly again? Come on man, don't be so close-minded.

As for Moss, I don't want that garbage on our team. He is such a waste a talent and there is no way we bring that bum here.

- I am talking football with you. The difference is that I'm not sugar coating it and it seems that you can't take it.

- 1. From the way he was playing (I live in SOFLA once again so I catch all of their games), it's pretty safe to say that the knee wasn't his problem but something much more serious: his confidence. The problem is in his head, and (I don't know if you've ever played a sport before, but if you have then you'd know...) shaky confidence is much harder to overcome than a busted knee. By the way, his confidence was shaken in '05 and he played so similar to that this year.

2. His knee will never truely be 100%. No QB has ever suffered an injury quite as horrific as that, and atheletes that have have never been the same after it. You guys would be much better off, both win wise and salary cap wise, to just let him go.

- He kept his team in it to the 4th quarter against a playoff team in the Jets. That's more than you can say for C-Pepp (who was the reason for the loss against the lowly Texans) and Harrington (whose career speaks for itself).

- Yeah, Dolfans and Sports Illustrated were the only people who picked the Dolfans last year. People who didn't jump to conclusions looked at Culpepper in '05 and then threw the knee injury on top of that and hesitated at least. True, you weren't the only one. But you took one article and called it legit when your QB wasn't even proven yet. I'm not saying this to you as an insult, but rather trying to get you to brighten up a bit as you're just making the same assumptions as you did before the season started.

- Yeah but a lot of people in Miami do. At least you have a good head on your shoulders in that dept.

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Hey KontradictioN, don't waste your time trying to argue with our resident Doofin fan. Trust me, it's not worth your time.

As far as your comment; "I don't know if you've ever played a sport before, but if you have, then you'd know"........be prepared to be wowed by good old Aquagoof, as he will soon tell you all about his sports skills, we all are under the impression according to him he is sure fire first round NFL/NBA/MLB pick material, can't remember which sport (OR IN HIS CASE, SPORTSSSSSSSSSSSS) he excels at most.

He has wowed us by telling us he has chosen to attend The Helen Keller Jr College for the deaf, dumb and blind so he can play TWO sports to increase his draft status. Literally dozens of bigtime programs came a knocking, but he spurned all of them because Drew Rosenscumbag promised him he'd make millions going to Jr college instead.

And somewhere in the state of Florida, a village is missing it's idiot...........................ballbag........... .....

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"We don't throw at .260 hitters." Tek to Pay-Fraud before he smacked him across the face.

Okay Kontra, thanks for a well supported argument. That's all I want here at Patsfans is good football talk.

Obviously I'm going to disagree but at least now I can get a better look at your perspective.

I have played sports all my life and yes I understand confidence is second to none. I think Daunte has a lot to prove and his confidence should come back the more footballs he throws.

A lot of analysts out there were picking the Fins becuase of the strong finish, Ricky Williams all season, Ronnie Brown's progression and the solid defense. I understand it didn't work out because our QB was hurt, but you can't blame them.

And yes, Randy Moss is a bum, we can all agree on that.