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Would you trade for Josh Gordon?

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Don't care if he is one mess up from a season suspension.

Chad Jackson
Terrence Wheatly
Patrick Chung
Ron Brace
Darius Butler
Jermaine Cunningham
Ras-I Dowling
Tavon Wilson

Bill's wasted 2nd round picks before. Why not waste one on a guy that can play in the NFL and is still on a rookie deal through 2015.
 
A legit #1 young WR right in front of us for the taking. Too bad he's pandoras box.
 
...Bill's wasted 2nd round picks before. Why not waste one on a guy that can play in the NFL and is still on a rookie deal through 2015.

Because of the suspension issue, I was opposed to it before. However, if they're so concerned about the position that they're bringing in Austin Collie, I might have to re-think my earlier position.



hmmm.....
 
....Mallett for Gordon, and then get Cassel from the Vikings for a low round pick?
 
Most thought Cleveland's season was over when they traded Richardson. Since then, they're now sitting in a 3 way tie for top of the division. I don't see them trading away anyone else unless its too good of a deal to pass up. I also wouldn't expect them to trade Gordon to the Pats since they face each other this year. The last thing they would want is to see a Brady-Gordon combo torch them. Makes for bad PR.
 
Because of the suspension issue, I was opposed to it before. However, if they're so concerned about the position that they're bringing in Austin Collie, I might have to re-think my earlier position.



hmmm.....

Ya but if he was to go for a season is it really that much different to the nothing the guys I listed above contributed the years they were here.
 
....Mallett for Gordon, and then get Cassel from the Vikings for a low round pick?

Stop it Deus, now I'm day dreaming of it.

Would a trio of Gronk, Amendola, Gordon with this defense bring us the 4th lombardi? You have to ask this to yourself, Bill!

Most thought Cleveland's season was over when they traded Richardson. Since then, they're now sitting in a 3 way tie for top of the division. I don't see them trading away anyone else unless its too good of a deal to pass up. I also wouldn't expect them to trade Gordon to the Pats since they face each other this year. The last thing they would want is to see a Brady-Gordon combo torch them. Makes for bad PR.

Schefter confirmed he's on the market for a 2nd round pick.

If you want the young #1 WR with a rookie contract through 2015 he's for the taking.....
 
Most thought Cleveland's season was over when they traded Richardson. Since then, they're now sitting in a 3 way tie for top of the division. I don't see them trading away anyone else unless its too good of a deal to pass up. I also wouldn't expect them to trade Gordon to the Pats since they face each other this year. The last thing they would want is to see a Brady-Gordon combo torch them. Makes for bad PR.

Browns knew the season was over the minute Hoyer went down. Weeden lost his job for a reason.
 
Stop it Deus, now I'm day dreaming of it.

Would a trio of Gronk, Amendola, Gordon with this defense bring us the 4th lombardi? You have to ask this to yourself, Bill!



Schefter confirmed he's on the market for a 2nd round pick.

If you want the young #1 WR with a rookie contract through 2015 he's for the taking.....

hmmm.... (part 2)

QB1 = Brady
QB2 = Cassel

RB1 = Ridley
RB2 = Vereen
RB3 = Blount
RB4/5 = Bolden/Washington

LT1 = Solder
LG1 = Mankins
C1 = Connolly
RG1 = Cannon
LT1 = Vollmer

TE1 = Gronk
TE2 - ___________

(Slot) WR1 = Amendola
WR2 = Gordon
WR3 = Edelman
WR4 = Thompkins
WR5 = Dobson
WR6 = Boyce
 
unless gordon plays offensive line hes not going to be a huge upgrade.
 
I don't know, I can't imagine a receiver coming in here mid season and contributing......
 
Not feelin' the love for Collie here.....

I don't really expect him to be an impact player, do you? I guess "contributing" is too loose of a term, he may catch a few balls, but I think it is difficult to come in here and pick up the offense is all I'm saying...
 
I don't really expect him to be an impact player, do you? I guess "contributing" is too loose of a term, he may catch a few balls, but I think it is difficult to come in here and pick up the offense is all I'm saying...

I'm sure I have no idea. BB must feel it is possible because he's done it more than once.
 
Not feelin' the love for Collie here.....
I don't think there's no chance of a WR picking up the offense in half a season, but I'd much rather give a chance to the free agent than the guy that would cost a second round pick.
 
Not feelin' the love for Collie here.....

I don't really expect him to be an impact player, do you? I guess "contributing" is too loose of a term, he may catch a few balls, but I think it is difficult to come in here and pick up the offense is all I'm saying...

I think it's difficult to get much of a read on what Collie may do here. We probably won't know until Belichick gets a chance to see him in our scheme.

It could be that he's nothing more than a depth signing, or it could be that he might be an upgrade to a guy like Boyce, who isn't getting Brady's trust for whatever reason so far and appears to be quite raw still.

It also should be noted that Collie is at least an experienced NFL player who has played in many big games/playoffs, and who has produced in a scheme with some similar nuances. I'm not as sure with a player like Josh Gordon, but then again, I don't know the specifics of the CLE offense this year or last either.



I'm sure I have no idea. BB must feel it is possible because he's done it more than once.

Just out of curiosity, Mack--how many times has it been done here, and what were the players (at the specific position of WR)?

The most recent one I remember is Jabar Gaffney in 2006, who had an absolutely awful season and didn't contribute a damn thing until the postseason after slowly learning the system throughout the year.

It's quite possible that I am forgetting someone who has been more recent.

I think one important aspect to remember is that even Belichick himself claimed that Collie had done many similar things in some ways, and that it was probably just a difference in speak/terminology that he'd have to get. While that shouldn't be understated, it's also worth noting that there are some exceptions in certain situations where Belichick believes that it's worth the risk.

Now, trading for a higher round pick is something altogether different, due to Collie being a low risk situation. I couldn't imagine Belichick pulling the trigger for an outsider who costs so much. If it were going to be done, I think we would've seen it during the summertime, which makes a lot more sense.

I don't think there's no chance of a WR picking up the offense in half a season, but I'd much rather give a chance to the free agent than the guy that would cost a second round pick.

I definitely think that there's a chance of someone picking it up in 1/2 a season, as we kind of saw with Gaffney in '06 who produced nicely in the playoffs, but what happens to him in the meantime?

Do we actually pull the trigger on a major trade for a player who is going to be totally inactive for at least the next 3-4 games at a minimum, and then will still be learning things for the next several games after that? I'd have a hard time seeing something like that happening here, as I'm sure you probably would too.
 
I find Gordon very tempting. I highly doubt the Pats would go for a guy with his alleged poor work ethic and other troubles after Hernandez. And I think the Pats will see a 2nd round pick as too much to give up.

But seeing this offense sputter so badly even w/Amendola back is a concern although Gronk, Vereen will be back. The way it looked Sunday does make me wonder what the Pats might do if they felt desperate in that area. KT, and Dobson can't perform at a high level yet or perhaps not at all this season.

If the Pats think they can somehow tame him and give him a reality check, and deem their situation and his talent as worthy as sacrificing a second round pick...then who knows?

If the Pats did make the trade, you probably won't find me complaining. Off the field issues weren't reason to avoid getting Talib.
 
I find Gordon very tempting. I highly doubt the Pats would go for a guy with his alleged poor work ethic and other troubles after Hernandez. And I think the Pats will see a 2nd round pick as too much to give up.

But seeing this offense sputter so badly even w/Amendola back is a concern although Gronk, Vereen will be back. The way it looked Sunday does make me wonder what the Pats might do if they felt desperate in that area. KT, and Dobson can't perform at a high level yet or perhaps not at all this season.

If the Pats think they can somehow tame him and give him a reality check, and deem their situation and his talent as worthy as sacrificing a second round pick...then who knows?

If the Pats did make the trade, you probably won't find me complaining. Off the field issues weren't reason to avoid getting Talib.

Many of our second round picks have been total wastes. If we waste so much second round picks on busts, why not give Gordon a shot if we want to have a real high caliber offense by playoff time?

Best outcome: Gordon learns the play book and is contributing significantly to a high powered offense, combined w/a great defense. Major contender.

Worst outcome: He's a dud or trouble maker, we cut him, and look back in shame on our lost second round pick.
 
I'm getting tired of all these threads. Why can't we give the rookies a chance? or are there just that many trolls on this board?

We're 4-1 brah, and on a 1 game losing streak.

It's time to blow it up.
 
Just out of curiosity, Mack--how many times has it been done here, and what were the players (at the specific position of WR)?


I definitely think that there's a chance of someone picking it up in 1/2 a season, as we kind of saw with Gaffney in '06 who produced nicely in the playoffs, but what happens to him in the meantime?

When Collie was signed I thought it was a depth pick due to injuries to Dobson and KT. With regard to previous examples though, I was also thinking of Gaffney and then the trade for Doug Gabriel in September. There may have been others that I cannot recall. I think these examples would tend to diminish expectations as we all agree, but just saying that BB must think it possible to get contributions from WRs signed during the season. I don't see Gordon coming, but if the rookies are on a flat part of the learning curve and the offense costs us a few games, there will be impatience. My expectation would be that we go with what we have (plus Gronk of course).
 
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