Will We Get Any Production From Branch, Allen or Harris?

[aluminum seats]

You are repeating the statement I have already answered.
Should we cut karras and croston too?
If not, why not?

Number one, you didn't have to answer my statement about agreeing to disagree, as it wasn't a question. But I understand you have a compulsion.

Second, to answer your question, an offensive line is designed to not have substitutions. You feel that Harris is being used exactly as the Pats hoped and intended. I disagree.

 

[Ring 6]

I made a relevant point. You decided to make a very similar one for some reason.

No I corrected yoir premise that "I can say I won't do this or that" depends on how much you are paid.
It seems you understand this but gave the fonzies and are stick with "I was wrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"

 

[Ring 6]

Number one, you didn't have to answer my statement about agreeing to disagree, as it wasn't a question. But I understand you have a compulsion.

Nice try. Misstating my point and then saying we agree to disagree is pretty lame.

Second, to answer your question, an offensive line is designed to not have substitutions. You feel that Harris is being used exactly as the Pats hoped and intended. I disagree.

When did I ever say he is being used as hoped?
Clearly he is being used as intended because they are playing him in the role they put him in.

You seem to not be getting this in purpose.

I understand you thought Harris would do more. Unfortunately Harris right now is not a better option at his position than vannoy or Roberts. There are no left over snaps.
I'm not sure how you don't understand #3 LB is needed but is #3 in the rotation and when you don't need to go deeper than #2 you won't be playing.

I get that you thought Harris would have a different role. But your hope doesn't change what his fit is for the role he earned just because it is a lesser role than you wanted.

Should we cut langi too?
What about hollister? His situation is similar except Gronk had been out so he got some snaps.
If you cut Harris what do you do if vannoy or Roberts gets injured?
Who plays LB then?

 

[aluminum seats]

No I corrected yoir premise that "I can say I won't do this or that" depends on how much you are paid.
It seems you understand this but gave the fonzies and are stick with "I was wrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"

Lol. Wow, that is comically blatant projection. You really have to look in the mirror dude.

 

[aluminum seats]

Nice try. Misstating my point and then saying we agree to disagree is pretty lame.


When did I ever say he is being used as hoped?
Clearly he is being used as intended because they are playing him in the role they put him in.

You seem to not be getting this in purpose.

I understand you thought Harris would do more. Unfortunately Harris right now is not a better option at his position than vannoy or Roberts. There are no left over snaps.
I'm not sure how you don't understand #3 LB is needed but is #3 in the rotation and when you don't need to go deeper than #2 you won't be playing.

I get that you thought Harris would have a different role. But your hope doesn't change what his fit is for the role he earned just because it is a lesser role than you wanted.

Should we cut langi too?
What about hollister? His situation is similar except Gronk had been out so he got some snaps.
If you cut Harris what do you do if vannoy or Roberts gets injured?
Who plays LB then?

I say this with affection, to a fellow Pats fan. You clearly need a girlfriend.

 

[Angelpats]

I don't really know what you guys are arguing about but the Harris, Hollister, and Langi situations are all different. The latter two are rookies and Harris was a productive player throughout his carreer and it's more likely he was signed to be a more productive player than as a backup. No GM really wants to pay players to sit during games, it's just not productive fo anyone if a player doesn't contribute in some way.

 

[aluminum seats]

I don't really know what you guys are arguing about but the Harris, Hollister, and Langi situations are all different. The latter two are rookies and Harris was a productive player throughout his carreer and it's more likely he was signed to be a more productive player than as a backup. No GM really wants to pay players to sit during games, it's just not productive fo anyone if a player doesn't contribute in some way.

I agree, and you wouldn't think it would be a particularly difficult or controversial point...

 

[pats_premi]

Assuming that they are all on the team.
1) Allen - no. I think less than 10 catches. He is 2017 version of Daniel Grahan. Blocking contribution only.
2) Harris - yes, in the winter months when the game speed will slow down.
3) Branch No. Likely to be cut. Did not participate in the OTA, skipped offseason program and put on weight. He is in his 30's, may not have the upside to keep him.

 

[mgteich]

1) Allen - no. I think less than 10 catches. He is 2017 version of Daniel Grahan. Blocking contribution only.

hmmm

There was nothing wrong with Daniel Graham or his contribution to the team. I'd be very happy if Allen contributes as much as Graham did.

 

[Ring 6]

I say this with affection, to a fellow Pats fan. You clearly need a girlfriend.

As you reply to every post in kind.
Thanks for the insult but you've got that one wrong too.

 

[Ring 6]

I don't really know what you guys are arguing about but the Harris, Hollister, and Langi situations are all different. The latter two are rookies and Harris was a productive player throughout his carreer and it's more likely he was signed to be a more productive player than as a backup. No GM really wants to pay players to sit during games, it's just not productive fo anyone if a player doesn't contribute in some way.

But you need depth and the fact is that some players don't play when everyone is healthy.
The point simply is Harris had a role, it's a small one but we need someone in that role and the fact that the guys in front of him have been healthy doesn't mean his role no longer is needed.
as I have said if there is someone better sign him up.

 

[Ring 6]

Lol. Wow, that is comically blatant projection. You really have to look in the mirror dude.

As you make my point.

 

[aluminum seats]

As you make my point.

No, you have a pathological inability to concede a point. It's been noted by others here, so again, just think about it.

 

[Angelpats]

But you need depth and the fact is that some players don't play when everyone is healthy.
The point simply is Harris had a role, it's a small one but we need someone in that role and the fact that the guys in front of him have been healthy doesn't mean his role no longer is needed.
as I have said if there is someone better sign him up.

You are right AJ, we need depth and there are better players. The issue was that they tried to give him a bigger role but was outplayed for it. He earned this backup role it wasn't given to him. With that said I don't mind him there at all, he's still ok but not great.

 

[thecore762]

Add Burkhead, Mitchell, McClellein, and Valentine to the list

Speaking of Burkhead whatever happened to him?

 

[Angelpats]

He got hurt.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Branch: I certainly hope so, we need him to start showing up.
Allen: At this point I'm not sure. Given that he didn't really show up even with Gronk hurt, it's looking more like he's just not going to work here, which is a shame because I had really high hopes for him. Could still happen though.
Harris: Probably not. If he couldn't get on the field the last few weeks I dunno when he will.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Noone wants to get rid of them. When a player does great we are allowed to praise them but if they do badly you gotta let them be critiqued as well. With that said Allen is being paid as a top tight end but isn't producing as such and his blocking isn't even top tier.

Bull sh.t

Calling for heads to roll is a constant feature of this board. Almost all of this roster would be long gone, even Brady, if the crybaby biatch “Patriot fans” had their way. Christian Hackenberg would be at QB and Tavon Austin would be in the slot ............

 

[BradyFTW!]

Speaking of Burkhead whatever happened to him?

Rib injury, apparently expected back for week 6

 

[Ring 6]

No, you have a pathological inability to concede a point. It's been noted by others here, so again, just think about it.

I'm not conceding a point that i am right about.
Why would I? You have said absolutely nothing that would influence my viewpoint in fact all you are doing is misstating my viewpoint.