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Ian do you have a sense for whether Wickersham's more likely getting this information from Belichick or Kraft?Also - Belichick laughing at him likely happened because there was absolutely no way Brady was being dealt midseason. My assumption is the discussion between Kraft and Belichick centered on keeping Jimmy through the season and possibly parting with Brady after the season, and I'm guessing that didn't sit well. So whatever friction there might have been, that's my theory. Although, I'm probably more likely to be wrong since I'm just speculating.
He's regurgitating Tanguy's story. Might as well regurgitate Tomase's thoughts.If you listen to the interview he says he heard he spoke to those teams when they had openings but didn’t know if it was about him wanting the job. Bb is notorious for recommending coaches when there are openings and 2 of those teams hired his guys.
You think it’s common sense to dump Tom Brady for Jimmy g while Brady is playing as good as ever??? You must have failed common sense class.It fails the common sense test too. You are incapable of believing anything that might cast Bill in a bad light unless it is overridden by your contempt for Cam Newton.
Attack the messenger all you want, but Wickersham despite his BSPN affiliation has been pretty close to spot on his reporting on this subject.
Does it matter when it was?And yes, before you ask me, I believe that conversation happened. Shanahan said it publicly and I obviously remember the report and the quote:
John Lynch Confirms Tom Brady Trade Offer, Says Bill Belichick 'Laughed at Me'
"We were calling about Jimmy and we did have that conversation and got quickly rebuffed," Lynch said on Barstool Sports' Pardon My Take podcast.
"I figured, 'What the heck, you gotta take your shot, right? You can't score if you don't shoot.' I had to summon up the courage and Bill [Belichick] laughed at me and basically hung up on me. But hey, I took my shot."
However, looking back, I wonder if that was in the context of a midseason trade. Again, we'll never know, but that would explain things a little better if he laughed at the thought of dealing Brady at the deadline vs giving the 49ers Garoppolo.
I don't, although I do remember some discussion about possibly Jonathan Kraft. Again, just speculation, but that's what I believe some felt at the time.Ian do you have a sense for whether Wickersham's more likely getting this information from Belichick or Kraft?
He’s a hack, but he’s a good one because the stuff he makes up stirs the pot every one is watching.He's regurgitating Tanguy's story. Might as well regurgitate Tomase's thoughts.
Sort of...would kind of ad some context to match up with those reports and make it a little easier to understand.Does it matter when it was?
He is and always has been full of ****. By all means let’s make of list of these things he wrote that people keep saying are true. Nothing has been confirmed.It’s funny how a few years back many members of this board were screaming to the rooftops that Wickersham is full of sh*t after his article came out. Then we find out much of what he wrote is true. Now this comes out and many of the same people yelling he’s full of sh*t. I guess nothing bad ever happens in Patriots fantasyland.
So you think belichick would laugh at him and say “I’m not trading the best QBs in the nfl do you think im an idiot” during the season but in the off season he wanted to trade him?Sort of...would kind of ad some context to match up with those reports and make it a little easier to understand.
I think he would absolutely say, "I’m not trading the best QBs in the NFL in the middle of the season. Do you think I'm an idiot?"So you think belichick would laugh at him and say “I’m not trading the best QBs in the nfl do you think im an idiot” during the season but in the off season he wanted to trade him?
Belichick abs Brady won together and belichick knew Brady’s value more than anyone. It’s ridiculous to believe that belichick wanted to dump Brady in the middle of a 4 Sb trips, 3 wins in a 5 year period. He isnt crazy or stupid.
This isn't really breaking news. I remember there being similar speculation at the time that Bill was frustrated and was supposedly upset enough to explore other options and I believe I remember the Washington and Giants thing (not the Miami one). But again, it never turned into anything and well...here we are.
(UPDATE: Here was the thread on that: Tanguay: Belichick inquired about Washington job after JG trade)
At the same time, as much as we hate to admit it, Wickersham ended up being right about much of what he reported. We can talk about the things he may or may not have gotten right, but there were obviously more truths than mistruths, which I think surprised all of us.
It's OK to be a homer. But at the same time, you still have to have a little bit of an open mind to understand these are human beings who make mistakes. However, that being said, you also have to still be able to take the bad with the good and not go off the deep end when times get toughWickersham has absolutely been right on multiple key news. Some here are major homers. Whether Kraft would have been ok with it or not it makes sense BB would be talking to gauge his possibilities.
I bet Kraft would prefer Brady over Bill.BS if anyone thinks Kraft would ever let Belichick go.
The cost would be 5 #1s.