Wickersham book discussion

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Thought I’d make one topic for this where it all can go in here.

NFL Rumors: Why Bill Belichick, Eric Mangini Nearly Had Fistfight In 2008

Bill Belichick reportedly nearly had a fistfight with former Patriots defensive coordinator Eric Mangini at the 2008 league meetings.

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Belichick nearly had a fist fight with Eric the Rat?

“At the 2008 league meetings, Belichick and then-New York Jets head coach Eric Mangini nearly had a fistfight,” ESPN wrote. “After a dinner for head coaches, Julie Mangini, wife of Eric, bumped into Belichick and said hi, trying to ease tension after the post-Spygate fallout. Belichick blew her off, and when she told Eric what had happened, he charged across the room and needed to be held back by other coaches from swinging at Belichick. ‘Hey Bill, (expletive) you!’ Mangini yelled.”

 

[DropKickFlutie]

I'm with Bill here. F Mangini.


To me the most damaging stuff is the story of Kraft b-tching in Colorado about BB being an ahole. That might make things awkward....

 

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Tom Brady Reportedly Once Considered Forcing Trade Away From Patriots

A new book from ESPN's Seth Wickersham reveals that Tom Brady once considered forcing a trade away from the New England Patriots.

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Brady "might have"... cmon headline writer that's not the same as saying he actually considered it

 

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Patriots book goes inside secretive franchise

A new book goes inside the secretive and controversial New England Patriots franchise that dominated the NFL from 2001 to 2019 and illuminates the power dynamics between the driven, proud trio of Robert Kraft, Bill Belichick and Tom Brady.

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I'm with Bill here. F Mangini.


To me the most damaging stuff is the story of Kraft b-tching in Colorado about BB being an ahole. That might make things awkward....

"As for Kraft, in late September, he was in Aspen (Colorado) for a conference and bumped into a few friends in the hotel lobby early one morning. He told them he was leaving later for Detroit, where the Patriots were playing their next game. 'I hate leaving here,' Kraft said. 'You leave here and you leave some of the most brilliant people you've ever met. You pick up so much knowledge from all these brilliant minds. And I have to go to Detroit to be with the biggest f-----ng a--hole in my life -- my head coach.' "

Yes Bill is an a-hole but - yikes!

 

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Kraft: "Bill was an idiot savant... I gave him this opportunity"

 

[denverpatsfan]

All the vultures are coming out now that Rome has fallen. Sad

 

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There was nearly a mutiny against BB? With Bill O possibly part of it? Wow.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Kraft: "Bill was an idiot savant... I gave him this opportunity"

Bob needs to stfu. The entire franchise will nose dive if BB isn't here.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

I have the book on pre-order...can't wait to get it

 

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• After Spygate and during U.S. Sen. Arlen Specter's inquiry into whether the Patriots had videotaped the St. Louis Rams' walk-through practice before Super Bowl XXXVI, former Rams coach Mike Martz said he believed that New England had also videotaped the Rams practices during the week. "I'd like to hang Belichick by the nuts," he told a confidant.
• During Spygate, then-Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan backed Belichick and told Goodell that he wished he had videotaped signals and was disappointed for not thinking of the cheating methods himself. Goodell had called coaches and executives trying to learn more about New England's videotaping practices. Nearly all of them wanted Belichick severely punished -- except Shanahan. "You can't say that Bill Belichick is a bad guy," Shanahan told Goodell. "Bill is just better at it than most are."

That confirms it to me. It was Bill's fault but now we know why the actual punishment was over the top. Jealousy and wanting to bring the Patriots down.

 

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• In the lead-up to Super Bowl LII against the Philadelphia Eagles, Patriots cornerback Malcolm Butler and defensive coordinator Matt Patricia traded heated words at practice over the former Super Bowl hero's lack of effort. Butler was demoted. At the team party after New England's loss, Butler responded to teammates asking why he was benched by saying, "These dudes," referring to the coaches, according to the book, "these mother f---ers."

Sorry... if this is why this happened this is still not an acceptable reason.

 

[Rob0729]

I would be interested in this book if it was just the inside information of what is going on with the Patriots' dynasty, but I really don't care about the TMZ stuff. Who cares if Kraft called Belichick an a-hole? Who cares if Mangini and Belichick almost got into a brawl?

 

[Tottie]

This is disgusting 3rd party BS. When an owner says something like that it's supposed to remain private. We've all said **** like that.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

• In the lead-up to Super Bowl LII against the Philadelphia Eagles, Patriots cornerback Malcolm Butler and defensive coordinator Matt Patricia traded heated words at practice over the former Super Bowl hero's lack of effort. Butler was demoted. At the team party after New England's loss, Butler responded to teammates asking why he was benched by saying, "These dudes," referring to the coaches, according to the book, "these mother f---ers."

Sorry... if this is why this happened this is still not an acceptable reason.

So it was patricia who is the reason for 1 less ring ?

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[tom444]

• Toward the end of the dynastic run, Belichick commissioned an internal study to examine the traits of transcendent athletes. Jordan, Bryant, Woods and Brady were interviewed, among others. The study revealed that while the motivations of the rest of the elite athletes centered around the themes of rage and manufactured conflict, Brady was different. He felt most at the peak of his powers "not when he was measuring the size of the chip on his shoulder, but when he was in a loving and supportive environment," Wickersham writes.

Very interesting if true.

 

[mike_usagisan]

All the vultures are coming out now that Rome has fallen. Sad

This

 

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• Toward the end of the dynastic run, Belichick commissioned an internal study to examine the traits of transcendent athletes. Jordan, Bryant, Woods and Brady were interviewed, among others. The study revealed that while the motivations of the rest of the elite athletes centered around the themes of rage and manufactured conflict, Brady was different. He felt most at the peak of his powers "not when he was measuring the size of the chip on his shoulder, but when he was in a loving and supportive environment," Wickersham writes

So Brady wanted to be coddled?

 

[Kontradiction]

HAHAHAHAHA the explanation for Butler’s benching. What ****ing idiocy by that fat slob, Patricia.

 

[203Pat]

"As for Kraft, in late September, he was in Aspen (Colorado) for a conference and bumped into a few friends in the hotel lobby early one morning. He told them he was leaving later for Detroit, where the Patriots were playing their next game. 'I hate leaving here,' Kraft said. 'You leave here and you leave some of the most brilliant people you've ever met. You pick up so much knowledge from all these brilliant minds. And I have to go to Detroit to be with the biggest f-----ng a--hole in my life -- my head coach.' "

Yes Bill is an a-hole but - yikes!

I still remember the 2009 Patriots/BB thing that NFL Films did and I came away with the impression Bill treats Kraft like a child. Some of their interactions Bill seemed to talk to Kraft as if he were his 6 year old son and do everything but pat him on the top of the head and send him on his way.